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Gay Mitchell advocated British Monarch as Head of All Irleand State

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Batsy wrote: »
    You weren't correct. You said slavery in England wasn't abolished until 1772. That is what you said.

    What actually happened was that slavery was abolished way back in 1102, and this black "slave" in England in 1772 was released and given his freedom because slavery had been against the law in England for almost 700 years.

    If you reread what you posted you'll note that actual abolition of slavery is given as the date I mentioned. Thats also stated in the article you linked on wilberforce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    getz wrote: »
    only country in the EU to bring up blaspheny laws ,who do you think put them up for it,and it was introduced with indecent haste,if it was not broke why fix it
    It was broken, there was a gap regarding its prohibition in the constitution, that was highlighted by a court case. The new law is actually about causing outrage or offence to people who follow any religion, the new law itself isn't really about offending a god.
    Previously, though it was prohibited in the constitution there was nothing stating what blasphemy actually was, now the law actually states what the prohibition means. Its not really new, just clarified.
    We would need a referendum to remove it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    Getz is either winding us all up, or else he's trapped in a time warp. Incidentally, I can never understand why British or northern Unionists come on to Boards insulting Ireland, it suggests that they are extremely insecure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    Batsy wrote: »
    It was Britain which gave Irish women the right to vote in local elections as far back as 1869. In 1894, married women were given the vote in local elections in Britain and Ireland. All women above the age of 30 in Britain and Ireland were given the right to vote in any elections in 1918, compared to men above the age of 21, or above the age of 19 if they fought in WWI. Irish women can thank the British for first giving them the right to vote.




    Britain became the first country in the world to permanently ban its slave trade in 1807 not because there was a competitive advantage in encouraging the global banning of slavery but because they really were concerned about the plight of slaves. Ever heard of William Wilberforce?

    Wilberforce, an evangelical Christian, became concerned about the treatment of slaves.
    Yes I have heard of Willaim Wilberforce just as I have heard of Samuel Plimsoll who fought a long hard battle to prevent the murderous scumbag British nobility and merchants who knowingly sent overloaded ships put onto the seas secure in the knowledge that insurance would cover the cargo. The histrory of many of Englands nobility and early industrialists are deeply stained with the bolld of innocents. By the by, did you know it was Britain which pioneered the use of concentrations camps for women and children - yes in the Second Boer War Britain murdered over 24,000 unarmed women and children in its South African concentration camp. Women and |Children. God bless her majesty !

    By the way, yes Britains opposition to slavery was heavily influenced by economic considerations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    Nodin wrote: »
    If you reread what you posted you'll note that actual abolition of slavery is given as the date I mentioned. Thats also stated in the article you linked on wilberforce.
    Britain was one off the european countries which ' industrialised' African slavery. The Golden triangle was, of my memory is "
    The best-known triangular trading system is the transatlantic slave trade, that operated from the late 16th to early 19th centuries, carrying slaves, cash crops, and manufactured goods between West Africa, Caribbean or American colonies and the European colonial powers, with the northern colonies of British North America, especially New England, sometimes taking over the role of Europe.[1]
    The use of African slaves was fundamental to growing colonial cash crops, which were exported to Europe. European goods, in turn, were used to purchase African slaves, which were then brought on the sea lane west from Africa to the Americas, the so called middle passage.[2]
    A classic example would be the trade of sugar (often in its liquid form, molasses) from the Caribbean to Europe or New England, where it was distilled into rum. The profits from the sale of sugar were used to purchase manufactured goods, which were then shipped to West Africa, where they were bartered for slaves. The slaves were then brought back to the Caribbean to be sold to sugar planters. The profits from the sale of the slaves were then used to buy more sugar, which was shipped to Europe, etc.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_trade


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