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Finally broadband

  • 19-05-2010 11:48am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭


    The day has finally come when I can order broadband :D Did my spot check on atoz and low and behold Ballygar exchange in Co. Galway has been upgraded.

    Straight online to order. First hurdle, you don't have a PSTN line. Crap my ISDN means I have to ring them and get the engineer in for the install. 55 euro, fair enough I can handle that.

    Second hurdle, it's amber so you can only order 1MB. Fine lets see what it can do and then hopefully upgrade speed later.

    Third hurdle, wait until June 2nd for the engineer and in the meantime we will send out the modem and stuff so you can sit staring at it longingly until the fateful day.

    I am pleased this day has come, been living out here with dial-up for over 7 years. Now just another smaller wait to see if the damn thing will synch!

    *crosses fingers and other cross-able things*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    There won't be a proper test until it's been switched back to PSTN, this could be the reason for the amber light. Once the line is back to PSTN, and once you have DSL, you can re-check, and possibly upgrade to a higher speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    jor el wrote: »
    There won't be a proper test until it's been switched back to PSTN, this could be the reason for the amber light. Once the line is back to PSTN, and once you have DSL, you can re-check, and possibly upgrade to a higher speed.

    Thanks good info! I was expecting amber anyway being about 5KM from the exchange. Was pretty solid ISDN so hopefully the line quality is good enough to go beyond a basic 1Meg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    op im so happy for you, eircom have told me my exchange will come live at the end of the month, so many years iv waited for this, just hope everything goes well and no hiccups


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Cryos


    Zith wrote: »
    Thanks good info! I was expecting amber anyway being about 5KM from the exchange. Was pretty solid ISDN so hopefully the line quality is good enough to go beyond a basic 1Meg.

    Ours was the same with the ISDN line, showed amber way back when. But isdn was taken out and new DSL faceplace put in the works and hey presto we got 512k (back at the time i think this was Home Basic?) and today im on a stable 3mb (with the prospect of 3.5mb when eircom upgrades the ADSL technology!) Im simular situation 4-5km out from the exchange.

    Hope for the best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    Thanks for the feedback Cryos, here's hoping.

    Headshot good luck with yours as well! Went home yesterday and one of the first callers to the door was a Vodafone sales guy saying I've good news for you. So I told him I've ordered from Eircom and wouldn't even consider Vodafone because of all the bad feedback I have seen here and on their own forums. He started spouting off about paying more for the same thing blah blah. I prefer to get what I pay for to be honest and he was only reselling bitstream anyway. Obviously didn't understand what he was selling.

    I think I'm better to bite the bullet and get in first with Eircom so any problems can be sorted and then after the contract is up check the best deals.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,871 ✭✭✭Karmafaerie


    I remember the years waiting for Eircom BB, when my neighbours three houses up, and everyone across the road had it for years!

    Ringing Eircom every couple of months, and then eventually getting the good news.

    Being told I'd get my modem in 1-2 months, and then haveing to wait 3 weeks after I diod get the modem before the BB was activated!

    Still though, it felt like Christmas morning when I eventually logged on!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    I used to live in town 8-9 years ago and had a 512K DSL connection from Netsource. Then moved out to my own place in the country. Think it felt a bit worse by having a taste of DSL before taking it away again. Used to play original counter strike but had to say goodbye. That's what relationships do :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    Yeah I called Eircom earlier in the weekand the guy told me the exchange was due to be upgraded soon. I, of course doubted him cause I've heard that tune before.

    Then out of the blue Eircom calls yesterday enquiring who I have my landline with and blah blah blah, I explained I only wanna heard from Eircom when they can provide a lnadline BB service to me. She said i'll just check that for ya and what do ya know .......... yeah your exchange has been upgraded.

    Now the dilemma, stick with my wirlesss provider (2mb for €45) or change my phone package to "Perlico Freedom – Home Phone & 3MB Broadband For an all-in-one price of just €46 per month inc. VAT"

    I'll only get 1mb maybe 1.5 for now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    am i right in thinking Eircom are the only ones that can tell ya how much you phone line can support?

    also iv still havent learned what broadband speeds are coming to my area http://www.tomhayes.ie/blog/?p=607


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    Now the dilemma, stick with my wirlesss provider (2mb for €45) or change my phone package to "Perlico Freedom – Home Phone & 3MB Broadband For an all-in-one price of just €46 per month inc. VAT"
    I'll only get 1mb maybe 1.5 for now.

    Nice to have such tough choices now :)
    Headshot wrote: »
    am i right in thinking Eircom are the only ones that can tell ya how much you phone line can support?

    It's eircom equipment in the exchanges. They do the tests but the test result is available for all resellers as far as I know. Not sure if they just have a pass/fail/amber list or if it has some kind of values on there with estimated speeds.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Ballygar and Golden will get 24mbit services.

    OTOH Gort and Claregalway and Barna and Moycullen were DSL enabled years ago but are not to be upgraded to 24mbits.

    Galway Exchanges , Exch Code, STD, Enabled, ADSL 1 ( up to 8mbits) or ADSL2 (up to 24 mbits)

    ABBEYKNOCKMOY ABK 093 y 2
    AHASCRAGH AHH 090 y 2
    ARDRAHAN ADN 091 y 1
    ATHENRY ANR 091 y 1
    AUGHRIM AGH 090 y 2
    BALLINASLOE BSE 090 y 2
    BALLYCONNEELY BEY 095 y 2
    BALLYGAR BGR 090 y 2
    BALLYGLUNIN BGL 093 y 1
    BALLYMONEEN BNN 091 y 1
    BARNA BAR 091 y 1
    BARNADERG BNG 093 y 2
    BELCLARE BLL 093 y 2
    CARNA CAR 095 y 1
    CARNMORE CAM 091 y 2
    CARRAROE CRO 091 y 1
    CASHEL CAS 095 n 0
    CASTLEBLAKENEY CBY 090 y 2
    CLAREGALWAY CLG 091 y 1
    CLEGGAN CGG 095 n 0
    CLIFDEN CDN 095 y 1
    CLONBERN CLB 094 y 2
    CLONBUR CNB 094 n 0
    CORNAMONA CAA 094 y 2
    CORRANDULLA CDA 091 y 1
    COSTELLO CSO 091 y 1
    CRAUGHWELL CWL 091 y 1
    CREGGS CGS 090 n 0
    CREGMORE CGM 091 y 2
    CROSS near Cong Check
    DUNIRY DUR 090 y 2
    DUNMORE DMR 093 y 1
    EYRECOURT ECT 090 n 0
    FURBO FBO 091 y 2
    GALWAY HPO GAL 091 y 2
    GLANN GLA 091 n 0
    GLENAMADDY GMY 094 y 1
    GORT GRT 091 y 1
    GURTEEN GUN 090 n 0
    HEADFORD HRD 093 y 1
    INISBOFIN IBF 095 n 0
    INISHERE IHR 099 n 0
    INISHMAAN INM 099 n 0
    INVERIN INV 091 y 1
    KILCOLGAN KGN 091 y 1
    KILCONLY KCY 093 y 2
    KILCONNELL LCL 090 y 2
    KILKERRIN KEN 095 y 1
    KILLIMOR KIR 090 n 0
    KILRICKLE KCE 091 n 0
    KILRONAN KRN 099 n 0
    KILTORMER KRR 090 y 2
    KILTULLA KTA 091 y 2
    KINVARA KVA 091 y 2
    KNOCKFERRY KNF 091 n 0
    LAURENCETOWN LWN 090 y 2
    LEENANE LNE 095 y 2
    LETTERFRACK LKR 095 n 0
    LETTERMORE
    LOUGHREA LGA 091 y 1
    MAAM MAM 091 n 0
    MAREE 091 nr Oranmore
    MENLOUGH MNH 090 n 0
    MERVUE MVW 091 y 2
    MILTOWN MIL 093 y 2
    MONIVEA MVA 091 y 1
    MOUNTBELLEW MBW 090 y 1
    MOYCULLEN MYN 091 y 1
    NEW INN NIN 052 n 0
    NEWBRIDGE NBE 090 n 0
    ORANMORE OME 091 y 2
    OUGHTERARD OGT 091 y 1
    PORTUMNA PUA 090 y 1
    RECESS RCS 095 n 0
    ROSCAM ROM 091 y 1
    ROSMUC RSK 091 y 2
    ROSSCAHILL RSC 091 y 1
    ROUNDSTONE RST 095 n 0
    SHANTALLA SLA 091 y 2
    SPIDDAL SPL 091 y 1
    TEERANEA TNE 091 y 1
    TOBERELATAN TBL 091 n 0
    TUAM TUM 093 y 2
    TUBBER TUR 091 y 2
    TULLY CROSS TUX 095 n 0
    TURLOUGHMORE TMR 091 y 1
    WILLIAMSTOWN WMN 094 y 2
    WOODFORD WFD 090 n 0
    WOODLAWN WLN 090 n 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    cheers spongebob

    10th of june is when broadband becomes activated in my area

    cant ****ing wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    I have no fear of getting anywhere near 24M :) Still nice to know it's there and maybe it will help me get above a basic 1Meg from 5KM out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    I now have a shiny new broadband router that I can stare at. Roll on Wednesday 2nd!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Ballygar and Golden will get 24mbit services.

    OTOH Gort and Claregalway and Barna and Moycullen were DSL enabled years ago but are not to be upgraded to 24mbits.

    Galway Exchanges , Exch Code, STD, Enabled, ADSL 1 ( up to 8mbits) or ADSL2 (up to 24 mbits)

    ABBEYKNOCKMOY ABK 093 y 2
    AHASCRAGH AHH 090 y 2
    ARDRAHAN ADN 091 y 1
    ATHENRY ANR 091 y 1
    AUGHRIM AGH 090 y 2
    BALLINASLOE BSE 090 y 2
    BALLYCONNEELY BEY 095 y 2
    BALLYGAR BGR 090 y 2
    BALLYGLUNIN BGL 093 y 1
    BALLYMONEEN BNN 091 y 1
    BARNA BAR 091 y 1
    BARNADERG BNG 093 y 2
    BELCLARE BLL 093 y 2
    CARNA CAR 095 y 1
    CARNMORE CAM 091 y 2
    CARRAROE CRO 091 y 1
    CASHEL CAS 095 n 0
    CASTLEBLAKENEY CBY 090 y 2
    CLAREGALWAY CLG 091 y 1
    CLEGGAN CGG 095 n 0
    CLIFDEN CDN 095 y 1
    CLONBERN CLB 094 y 2
    CLONBUR CNB 094 n 0
    CORNAMONA CAA 094 y 2
    CORRANDULLA CDA 091 y 1
    COSTELLO CSO 091 y 1
    CRAUGHWELL CWL 091 y 1
    CREGGS CGS 090 n 0
    CREGMORE CGM 091 y 2
    CROSS near Cong Check
    DUNIRY DUR 090 y 2
    DUNMORE DMR 093 y 1
    EYRECOURT ECT 090 n 0
    FURBO FBO 091 y 2
    GALWAY HPO GAL 091 y 2
    GLANN GLA 091 n 0
    GLENAMADDY GMY 094 y 1
    GORT GRT 091 y 1
    GURTEEN GUN 090 n 0
    HEADFORD HRD 093 y 1
    INISBOFIN IBF 095 n 0
    INISHERE IHR 099 n 0
    INISHMAAN INM 099 n 0
    INVERIN INV 091 y 1
    KILCOLGAN KGN 091 y 1
    KILCONLY KCY 093 y 2
    KILCONNELL LCL 090 y 2
    KILKERRIN KEN 095 y 1
    KILLIMOR KIR 090 n 0
    KILRICKLE KCE 091 n 0
    KILRONAN KRN 099 n 0
    KILTORMER KRR 090 y 2
    KILTULLA KTA 091 y 2
    KINVARA KVA 091 y 2
    KNOCKFERRY KNF 091 n 0
    LAURENCETOWN LWN 090 y 2
    LEENANE LNE 095 y 2
    LETTERFRACK LKR 095 n 0
    LETTERMORE
    LOUGHREA LGA 091 y 1
    MAAM MAM 091 n 0
    MAREE 091 nr Oranmore
    MENLOUGH MNH 090 n 0
    MERVUE MVW 091 y 2
    MILTOWN MIL 093 y 2
    MONIVEA MVA 091 y 1
    MOUNTBELLEW MBW 090 y 1
    MOYCULLEN MYN 091 y 1
    NEW INN NIN 052 n 0
    NEWBRIDGE NBE 090 n 0
    ORANMORE OME 091 y 2
    OUGHTERARD OGT 091 y 1
    PORTUMNA PUA 090 y 1
    RECESS RCS 095 n 0
    ROSCAM ROM 091 y 1
    ROSMUC RSK 091 y 2
    ROSSCAHILL RSC 091 y 1
    ROUNDSTONE RST 095 n 0
    SHANTALLA SLA 091 y 2
    SPIDDAL SPL 091 y 1
    TEERANEA TNE 091 y 1
    TOBERELATAN TBL 091 n 0
    TUAM TUM 093 y 2
    TUBBER TUR 091 y 2
    TULLY CROSS TUX 095 n 0
    TURLOUGHMORE TMR 091 y 1
    WILLIAMSTOWN WMN 094 y 2
    WOODFORD WFD 090 n 0
    WOODLAWN WLN 090 n 0

    So am I right in thinking ....... even though we've had to wait till now for the exchange to be enabled it will be upgraded to a speed that exchanges upgraded months (Maybe years) ago haven't been upgraded to yet ?

    24mb ? My god I'd be delighted with 5/6/7/8mb in a year or two and will tolerate 1/3mb for now !!


    Zith ....... why the wait till 2nd June ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    It's shocking that here we are in 2010 and some parts of the country are only now getting (low speed) broadband now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    It's shocking that here we are in 2010 and some parts of the country are only now getting (low speed) broadband now.


    That's our beloved Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot




    Zith ....... why the wait till 2nd June ??

    if its like my own broadband

    Zith exchange will come live on the 2nd of June

    mine is in my sig, just to remind me of that day iv waited for, for so many years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    Headshot wrote: »
    if its like my own broadband

    Zith exchange will come live on the 2nd of June

    mine is in my sig, just to remind me of that day iv waited for, for so many years

    Not sure if others in the area already have it. My reason for June 2nd is that because I have an ISDN line the DSL upgrade needs an engineer visit to take out the NT1 box inside the house. I presume (maybe wrongly) that if I had a normal PSTN line then I could have just plugged in the router once I got it and broadband would have been up and running.

    I guess it could be both reasons! Why give me a date two weeks after the order for the engineer, possibly because the exchange is not live yet rather than the engineer being up the walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    Success!
    Speed: 	 1024 kbps /128 kbps
    Line Attenuation (Down/Up): 	63 dB /31 dB
    DSL Noise Margin: 	21 dB /19 dB
    

    Engineer did a check and said line should be capable of between 2 and 3 MB :-) There is someone further away with 2.4M. So will get on to them tomorrow to upgrade the package (can't upgrade until today's call is closed off - tonight).

    Pings are a bit high, minimum 55ms to the BRA. Rock steady though. There is a wireless backhaul link on the local exchange. Engineer said they will have to upgrade that to fibre later in the year because they need fibre into another exchange nearby (Ballyforan).

    Also told me something I wasn't aware of. Said that you get a better (longer) signal on the air cables (on poles) versus the underground because they use a bigger conductor on them.

    Am a happy camper now, a broadband camper! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    fair play Zith

    enjoy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,555 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    i just rang eircom just there asking about the activation of my broadband

    now it's end of the june :rolleyes:

    what happened to the 10th ?

    i can never get a straight answer from them, anybody know the exact date when my exchange will go live ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    I ordered my package last Thurs from Perlico....... haven't received the free modem yet ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    I ordered my package last Thurs from Perlico....... haven't received the free modem yet ???

    Might take a week. Is there an order update phone number? For eircom when you ring the broadband number from your land line it gives you the status of your order. Told me when the modem was posted. Not sure if perlico has similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    Headshot wrote: »
    i just rang eircom just there asking about the activation of my broadband

    now it's end of the june :rolleyes:

    what happened to the 10th ?

    i can never get a straight answer from them, anybody know the exact date when my exchange will go live ?

    Immediately AFAIK.

    Seems like you have had a lot of hassle with this.

    TBH it's a disgrace that some are only getting broadband now.

    Typical Ireland. 10 years behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    Was just thinking there that my interleaving is most likely set to high. I must ring later and get it set to low and see what the impact will be. Would be nice to knock 10 or 20ms from the pings assuming it will stay stable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    Zith wrote: »
    Might take a week. Is there an order update phone number? For eircom when you ring the broadband number from your land line it gives you the status of your order. Told me when the modem was posted. Not sure if perlico has similar.

    Got 2 text messages today telling me my modem was en route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    Zith wrote: »
    Was just thinking there that my interleaving is most likely set to high. I must ring later and get it set to low and see what the impact will be. Would be nice to knock 10 or 20ms from the pings assuming it will stay stable.

    ???????????:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Pin_Cushion


    Zith wrote: »
    The day has finally come when I can order broadband :D Did my spot check on atoz and low and behold Ballygar exchange in Co. Galway has been upgraded.

    Straight online to order. First hurdle, you don't have a PSTN line. Crap my ISDN means I have to ring them and get the engineer in for the install. 55 euro, fair enough I can handle that.

    Second hurdle, it's amber so you can only order 1MB. Fine lets see what it can do and then hopefully upgrade speed later.

    Third hurdle, wait until June 2nd for the engineer and in the meantime we will send out the modem and stuff so you can sit staring at it longingly until the fateful day.

    I am pleased this day has come, been living out here with dial-up for over 7 years. Now just another smaller wait to see if the damn thing will synch!

    *crosses fingers and other cross-able things*

    Have you been using dial-up until now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Zith


    ???????????:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

    Interleaving is a setting for the data between your DSL modem and the local exchange. A high interleaving value means the data sent is more robust and less prone to errors but it also means your round trip time is longer.

    So for example with high interleaving on my line when I pinged www.boards.ie I was getting an average of 59ms (milliseconds) - the time taken for a packet of data to go from my computer to the boards.ie server and back again. Just rang and got it changed to low interleaving and my ping to the same server is now 28ms average :D My overall package is still the same (1Mb bandwidth).
    Have you been using dial-up until now?

    Yes, been using dial-up over ISDN line (so called "eircom hi-speed") for the last 7 years :mad: But no longer I tell ya!


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