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Build up to the 2010 European Championships, Barcelona (Steve Colvert qualifies)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    Chamney is down for the 1500m "development" (not the dream mile).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 letsbefriends


    alan o brien? david mccarthy?

    why not have chamney double 8 and 15? he has yet to run an 8 and his 342 is the fastest of those available for the 1500

    strange decisions in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    That 4x400m line up will be interesting,i could pick Gregan/Gillick and McCarthy but its a toss up for the last spot..Gordon Kennedy even.
    Hession shouldnt be let out over one lap in a relay just yet,he would blow up something shocking in the final thirty and would be too tired to get a clean baton change..for an athlete who has trained for 100s and 200s,to ask him to run for the team on a 4x4 might be unwise and taking advantage of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Chamney clocks an SB 3:39.02 in Oslo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,983 ✭✭✭TheRoadRunner


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Chamney clocks an SB 3:39.02 in Oslo.

    He beat Nick McCormick as well so great run. He didn't beat "one" of his arch enemies (Olmedo of Spain) though!

    Just looked at mens 5000 metres. Lagat broke the American record (12.54). Solinsky ran 12.56 as well :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,608 ✭✭✭donothoponpop


    He beat Nick McCormick as well so great run. He didn't beat "one" of his arch enemies (Olmedo of Spain) though!

    Just looked at mens 5000 metres. Lagat broke the American record (12.54). Solinsky ran 12.56 as well :eek:

    10 lads under 13 minutes! I remember when Dave Moorcroft almost broke 13 in Oslo. WR back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Dr Watson


    Scullion has been ruled out of the 10,000m EC as his qualification time from the AAA 10km Road Race has ben judged ineligible.

    Kennedy broke 48, running in very windy conditions, in Bedford last Sunday.So def have him on the relay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,226 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    10 lads under 13 minutes! I remember when Dave Moorcroft almost broke 13 in Oslo. WR back then.

    Hilarious, isn't it? The last placed finisher, in 17th, clocked 13:18 or so.

    What an 800m, too. 3rd and 4th were under 1:45, but the commentators didn't even notice, because they were so far behind!

    Powell looks in great shape. Bloody wind gauge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Chamney clocks an SB 3:39.02 in Oslo.

    Very impressive from a guy who is still learning the event. 1500 is definately his distance. 3.36 this season is a distinct possibility.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    He beat Nick McCormick as well so great run. He didn't beat "one" of his arch enemies (Olmedo of Spain) though!

    Just looked at mens 5000 metres. Lagat broke the American record (12.54). Solinsky ran 12.56 as well :eek:

    Sounds like some missed the whole lot tonight with work :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    Very impressive from a guy who is still learning the event. 1500 is definately his distance. 3.36 this season is a distinct possibility.

    Its all down to his 12 XC runs in the park:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    Dr Watson wrote: »
    Kennedy broke 48, running in very windy conditions, in Bedford last Sunday.So def have him on the relay.

    There were winds of 6 m/s and he ran 47.9 so a welcome return to form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    runjb wrote: »
    I think Claire Brady (11.60), Derval (11.70) and Kelly Proper (11.70) will be on the team for Geneva, last place then between Niamh Whelan and Ailis McSweeney. Could go either way.

    Strong team no doubt.

    According to derval's blog its currently mcsweeney, dor, proper, brady with whelan sub. Also doing baton practice already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    Good to see Mary Cullen down for the 3000 at the ETC as I had heard she was injured again a while but obviously she must be ok and it wasn't true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Derval O'Rourke in action over the hurdles in Bydgoszcz tomorrow against a loaded field:

    OROURKE Derval 91-01-01 IRELAND 12.67/09

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    KOCIELNIK Joanna 83-03-11 KS Orzeł Warszawa

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    JONES Lolo 82-08-05 UNITED STATES 12.43/08 12.63w

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    LOPES-SCHLIEP Priscilla 82-08-26 CANADA 12.49/09 12.69

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    ENNIS Delloreen 75-03-05 JAMAICA 12.50/07 12.73

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    FELICIEN Perdita 80-08-29 CANADA 12.46/04 12.80

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    WELLS Kellie 82-07-16 UNITED STATES 12.58/08 12.86

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    ŠKROBÁKOVÁ Lucie 82-01-04 CZECH REPUBLIC 12.73/09 12.97

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    ADIGUN Seun 87-03-01 NIGERIA 12.88/09 13.16

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    YANOWSKA Olena 90-02-15 UKRAINE 13.8h/10 13.67w

    Tingle wrote: »
    Good to see Mary Cullen down for the 3000 at the ETC as I had heard she was injured again a while but obviously she must be ok and it wasn't true.

    Think she did get injured again. Hopefully just a blip, she deserves a break.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭runjb


    Gillick gets his season underway tomorrow in Rabat, Morocco, followed by the Diamond League on Thursday in Rome. It'll be an interesting week, I'd say he is in good enough shape and has nearly another 2 months to peak for Europeans.

    Derval is facing a strong field in her first hurdles race of the season. She will probably be a little rusty but it'll be good to get things rolling for her.

    Chamney's 3.39 was super last night, let's hope now he can continue to progress. He could be a dark horse to do well in Barcelona.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    Gregan also in action this weekend in France. Given his season opener was his fastest by .5 so optimistic season ahead for him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 anotheronebites


    big red mccarthy...1:48.19 to hit the standard at tullamore
    alan o brien 1:48.47 for second
    david mccarthy 1:49.2

    good running from them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Good going by McCarthy senior - two major championships in one year.

    Alistair Cragg returns from the dead in the 1500m at the Adidas New York Diamond League meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Some good results coming in from Belgium:

    An Irish 1-2-3 in the 200m:

    1 2 9718 STEVEN COLVERT IRL Sen 21.39
    2 3 9722 RUSSEL CHRIS IRL Sen 21.43
    3 4 9556 DARRAGH GRAHAM IRL Sen 21.59

    A couple of PBs, perhaps?

    Some of the races were experiencing strong negative winds, but Niamh Whelan won the women's 100m by .47 with 11.96 into a -1.8 wind, and with just one other competitor in the race! Clare Brady and the rest of the field DNS.

    In a second race, both Whelan and Brady ran 11.72 (+0.1).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Goofy


    Some good times there. The season is finally starting to get going. Where are you getting the results from belgium?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 lacticsmygame


    Rineanna wrote: »
    Some good results coming in from Belgium:

    An Irish 1-2-3 in the 200m:

    1 2 9718 STEVEN COLVERT IRL Sen 21.39
    2 3 9722 RUSSEL CHRIS IRL Sen 21.43
    3 4 9556 DARRAGH GRAHAM IRL Sen 21.59

    A couple of PBs, perhaps?

    Yeah, that was the heats though. Russell won final with 21.66 with Graham the second Irish athlete home and 3rd overall with 22 flat. Colvert DNF in final. Pb's for Colvert and Russell, not sure about Graham. The race to Barca is heating up big time!! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 lacticsmygame


    Goofy wrote: »
    Some good times there. The season is finally starting to get going. Where are you getting the results from belgium?

    http://www.ifam.be/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=108


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 lacticsmygame



    Gillick/Gregan/Hesh/McCarthy

    Strongest two on first so we dont fall to far behind the Brits (france and belgium wil lbe strong as well), Hesh latching onto the third leg runner and outsprinting him do:Dwn the home straight :D and McCarthy using his 800 strength to hold off Martyn Rooney to bring home Gold for Ireland haha :D

    Alot of people are forgetting about Brian Murphy who clocked 47.07 last year. He will be hoping to get the individual standard this year (46.75) let alone the 4x4 so I can't understand why no one has been mentioning his name. Gordon Kennedy is back in some kind of form now too which is good to see. As for Hession doing a 4 leg...that just wouldn't happen and wouldn't be wise for him or the Irish team.

    Can't believe the increase in quality of Irish sprinting this year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Mark Kenneally misses Euro 10.000m qualifying standard, placing 22nd at the Euro 10,000m cup with 29'36''48.

    Gary Thornton ran 30'22''27 in the B race, while Ava Hutchinson ran 34'10''75.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭TrackFan123


    If GB hurdler Andy Turner can clock a 46.1 relay split, then Hession certainly can.

    47.07 is ok, but he's gonna get raped in Barcelona running around that time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    If GB hurdler Andy Turner can clock a 46.1 relay split, then Hession certainly can.

    47.07 is ok, but he's gonna get raped in Barcelona running around that time!

    Presuming he got the 46.75 which is a reasonable presumption and he ran that time in his heat he would only be 2/10ths off the slowest qualifier to a semi-final based on the last European Championships.

    Also, based on last year's rankings, only 6 countries had 4 athletes who ran inside the qualifying standard - GBR, GER, BEL, RUS, POL, FRA. If Brian Murphy ran 46.75 and was our 4th fastest man then we would have a decent team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Unfortunately, it now looks that neither O'Rourke or Gillick are running today. Neither are on the respective meet's start-lists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭runjb


    Derval is definitely not competing. She is training today so that rules a trip to Germany out. She hasn't been doing too much training over hurdles recently, mainly focusing on her speed so maybe she needs another week or two to tune things up, probably wise!

    Surprised Gillick is not competing, he seems mad to race. So his opener will probably be the Diamond League meet in Rome next week - what a way to open the season!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Brian Gregan ran 46.65 to win in France yesterday. Very encouraging.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 lacticsmygame


    If GB hurdler Andy Turner can clock a 46.1 relay split, then Hession certainly can.

    47.07 is ok, but he's gonna get raped in Barcelona running around that time!

    Do u think hession could beat the likes of Brian Gregan in a 400? I really doubt that. Hession is an extremely tense and tight runner with a short stride - characteristics which would see him reach 300 and then die a grueling death. I really don't think he would hit a low 46. That is serious running. Maybe he would though but I don't know...I'd love to see him give it a whack anyway!
    Tingle wrote: »
    Also, based on last year's rankings, only 6 countries had 4 athletes who ran inside the qualifying standard - GBR, GER, BEL, RUS, POL, FRA. If Brian Murphy ran 46.75 and was our 4th fastest man then we would have a decent team.

    Exactly. Hopefully the likes of Kennedy will push for the individual standard too leaving Ireland with a competitive team, as you said. I think he'll get the standard too as (I heard today) he ran 47.3 over the weekend in Copenhagen or somewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭thirtyfoot


    Another junior ran 48 today, Kervick at Leinster champs in 48.3. 5 juniors have run 48 outdoors this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭TrackFan123


    Do u think hession could beat the likes of Brian Gregan in a 400? I really doubt that. Hession is an extremely tense and tight runner with a short stride - characteristics which would see him reach 300 and then die a grueling death. I really don't think he would hit a low 46. That is serious running. Maybe he would though but I don't know...I'd love to see him give it a whack anyway!



    Exactly. Hopefully the likes of Kennedy will push for the individual standard too leaving Ireland with a competitive team, as you said. I think he'll get the standard too as (I heard today) he ran 47.3 over the weekend in Copenhagen or somewhere.

    No I dont think Hession would beat Gregan but i think he would run faster splits than Murphy, Kennedy etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭TrackFan123


    Tingle wrote: »
    Another junior ran 48 today, Kervick at Leinster champs in 48.3. 5 juniors have run 48 outdoors this year.

    Crowe, Maher, Dowling, Scanlan and now Kervick, with Harvey running well indoors.

    Looks like another relay team hopefully at the Worlds. Looks stronger than the one that went to Serbia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 Athletics25


    Kervick 48.52 according to Leinster site.

    What an U/20 Championship it could be

    Kervick 48.52
    Crowe 48.58
    Dowling 48.92
    Scanlan 48.94 (48.38 Indoors)
    Maher 48.99
    Hannon 49.14
    Harvey 50.67 (48.76 Indoors)

    I think that is right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭TrackFan123


    Kervick 48.52 according to Leinster site.

    What an U/20 Championship it could be

    Kervick 48.52
    Crowe 48.58
    Dowling 48.92
    Scanlan 48.94 (48.38 Indoors)
    Maher 48.99
    Hannon 49.14
    Harvey 50.67 (48.76 Indoors)

    I think that is right?

    That and the U23 100m could be the race of the day at those champs;

    Colvert
    Russel
    Adams
    Holmes
    Hynes
    O'Shea?

    Is Smyth still U23?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 letsbefriends


    gillick has pulled out of rome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Paul Hession in action in Warsaw today, in Rome and then in Turin at the weekend.

    gillick has pulled out of rome

    :( He did tweak his hamstring in training last week according to his blog, so hopefully it's just precautionary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    Rineanna wrote: »
    Paul Hession in action in Warsaw today, in Rome and then in Turin at the weekend.




    :( He did tweak his hamstring in training last week according to his blog, so hopefully it's just precautionary.

    Actually, it turns out that after pulling out of Rabat as a precaution, the Rome meet director gave away his lane!

    From the horse's mouth:

    http://www.davidgillick.com/blog/Shafted!!.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 anotheronebites


    sucks to be him..wheres he racing next so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40 anotheronebites


    kelly mcniece racing in cuxhaven..although she's listed as being from GB:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭kilkenny runner


    Hession ran 10.43 into a head wind of 0.6 m/s to finish 3rd in the final in poland he qualifed for the final with a 10.44


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭dna_leri


    ecoli wrote: »

    While this is a good team with everyone fit and well, you realise the lack of strength in depth in Irish athletics when you look down the list.

    Field events will likely struggle against the competitors from Hungary, Czech Republic, Estonia, Sweden.

    Even Men's middle distances looks more development than elite in an area that was traditionally strong.

    I think Ireland will struggle to stay in division 1 after last year's promotion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭Rineanna


    dna_leri wrote: »
    While this is a good team with everyone fit and well, you realise the lack of strength in depth in Irish athletics when you look down the list.

    Field events will likely struggle against the competitors from Hungary, Czech Republic, Estonia, Sweden.

    Even Men's middle distances looks more development than elite in an area that was traditionally strong.

    I think Ireland will struggle to stay in division 1 after last year's promotion.

    This is very true. We're up against some of the best throwing nations in Europe, and most of them are stronger in the jumps also. It doesn't help that our only strength in the throws, EO'K is injured, but that's the way it is and I'm sure soem of our developing athletes will suprise. We do have some notable strengths in the sprints and middle distance, but it will probably come done to a relay battle with Lithuania and Slovenia or someone else.

    This is probably a separate topic in its own right, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to drastically improve the throws. There's definitely been some good work put in over the past few years, but there continues to be a pretty low standard across the board. If we take the Javelin, the general standard is shocking. How long has it been since there's been a male over 70m? Or a Female over even 50m?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭myflipflops


    Rineanna wrote: »
    This is probably a separate topic in its own right, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to drastically improve the throws. There's definitely been some good work put in over the past few years, but there continues to be a pretty low standard across the board. If we take the Javelin, the general standard is shocking. How long has it been since there's been a male over 70m? Or a Female over even 50m?

    This is something I;ve believed for a while. What is the level of coaching like in Ireland? Is there an argument for hiring a foreign national throws coach?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 letsbefriends


    david mccarthy from waterford tonight in huelva

    1 29 CUB - CASTILLO Mauris Surel 19/10/1984 15 3:43.20
    2 20 IRL - McCARTHY David 03/08/1988 13 3:43.81
    3 53 BEL - VAN MALDEREN Kristof 30/05/1983 17 3:44.15
    4 45 ESP - PLATAS VIDAL Gustavo 19/02/1981 16 3:44.47
    5 34 POR - GOMES Hélio 27/12/1984 11 3:44.52 MMT
    6 49 ESP - ROLDAN MARTINEZ Franscisco 26/05/1990 3 3:44.80
    7 50 CUB - SANCHEZ Jose A. 08/06/1985 7 3:45.13
    8 36 ESP - IMEDIO BALADRON Alberto 24/05/1991 8 3:45.34 MMP
    9 35 ITA - IANNONE Gilio 08/06/1985 10 3:46.01 MMT
    10 28 ESP - CARTAGENA TEIGELL Miguel 13/03/1987 5 3:47.31 MMP
    11 46 ESP - RIGO MAS Bartolome 28/04/1988 4 3:47.99 MMT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭TrackFan123


    Hession ran 10.43 into a head wind of 0.6 m/s to finish 3rd in the final in poland he qualifed for the final with a 10.44

    I hope he hasnt started serious speed work yet ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭notsofast


    Hession is in lane 8, 200m at the Diamond League in Rome tonight. He's up against Dix and Spearmon. Nice low key opener for him !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    3rd in 20.60 good run by him looked good


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