LOL Apple Fans

Eoin

120_Minutes wrote: »

moving on, i have an iphone but i'm well aware of its flaws. and i've used smartphones for years, some with better spec than my current iphone, but none of them made things as easy for me as my iphone has.

That about sums it up perfectly for me too. I don't evangelise about mine, but it does a better job for what I want it to do than any of the blackberry phones I've used over the last 5/6 years.

120_Minutes wrote: »

what i find funny is that the iphone was developed in the west and moved east, the opposite to most other phones. to that end every iphone is years behind the rest. case in point: the next gen iphone when it arrives will have video calling for the first time. welcome to 5 years ago apple!

The most intuitive interfaces tend to come from the West IMO.

sdanseo

Grimes wrote: »

Ever notice how non apple owners point out how sad apple owners are all the time?

Epic burn. Well done!

I love my iPhone - see how I even spelt it right

Suffice to say that having used just about every smartphone out there, it's still the most user friendly and easiest to use even if it doesn't do everything the rest do.

Heh, in the whole mac vs pc debate, ive always been on the pc side...partly because of the ipeople goin on about the macs...i think for the average human being, who isn't technically minded, yes, maybe macs are easier to use, and at times i've been impressed by their stability..but, yeah, im reminded of when a mate brought his macbook pro(which cost more than my laptop, and my pc together) over to the gaff..he'd just got a new external HD, and i was gonna put some stuff on it..my brother, another bit of a mac fanboy was there too...cue a half an hour of the two boys pluggin the HD in and out...restarting the mac , and just generally pissing about trying to get the HD to work with the mac..the bro would be quite computer literate, and had a mac for a while too..eventually (we were a bit pushed for time), i just said 'f*ck it, give it to me', plugged it into the pc, and had the hard drive going on the mac in about a minute and a half..twas funny..
Lately though, i dont know if macs 'just always work' anymore..i see a lot of well, this software will only work in snow leopard 10.3.4.1.6, and not on anything before or after this..the viruses are appearing now too..
My main issue with them is the whole branding thing though...i dont do brands..but if you want to spend double the price, for the same hardware, with a fancy case and a smaller software base, well then, fine...

evolutionqy7

sdonn wrote: »

Epic burn. Well done!

I love my iPhone - see how I even spelt it right

Suffice to say that having used just about every smartphone out there, it's still the most user friendly and easiest to use even if it doesn't do everything the rest do.

its not really about what apple can and what non apple devices can its the fact that apple product owners are head up their arse bragging about their product...look at this...oh look at that...we dont care...u have iPhone ok...u have an MacBook ok...dont ****ing brag about it...

MJRS

The passion Mac vs PC generates, ha! Who gives a ****e!

xw2lj9uspm1eyh

PS3>Xbox 360 Ftw!!

mendusa

mendusa wrote: »

PS3>Xbox 360 Ftw!!

This is a decision im currently considering...

banquo

Xbox 360 is awesome. Don't have a ps3 so can't comment.

Tar.Aldarion

Apples are nice, few little niggles but nice...thing that means I will never buy one, retarded price.


I prefer getting at least two laptops for the same price and windows/linuxing it up Also windows 7 is a good improvement, I like windows a lot more now

bertie4evr

I use PC's and tbh the only people I only ever hear are other PC users talking about how **** Apple products are. I couldn't care less what type of computer someone has. 90% of the time I just use it for the internet,which both can do equally well, the rest of the time I use programs that are available on both. Theres no difference.

Kasabian

This is my IPod. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My Ipod is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my IPod is useless. Without my IPod, I am useless.

Jay D

I know people who are socially lacking that that's their only worth to defend

don't be too hard on them.

I do love the iPhone and MacBook though, I am not a preacher.

gbee

Well you have several types of people.

Apple are for the people who just want to drive the equipment around and show it off occasionally and are not interested in what's under the hood.

Apple people will look to Windows to fill a gap or special need.

Windows people are for customers that Apple never reached and for the tech brigade who want to assemble, dissemble, mix and match and patch.

The windows system is fully customisable and if you're not techy enough to solve these issues/features daily, then you move to an Apple.

Apple also have a one touch philosophy ~ it is a fantastic, but can be like driving a fully automatic car without a break pedal when one may be used to a stick shift with gear levers and handbrake.

Scráib

gbee wrote: »

Apple also have a one touch philosophy ~ it is a fantastic, but can be like driving a fully automatic car without a break pedal when one may be used to a stick shift with gear levers and handbrake.

I'd agree with you there and with everything else you said. I'm a Mac fan but I'm no dev/techhic/programmer so the idea of an OS that's less complicated than Windows appeals to me. Sometimes it can get too automated, you can feel like you're out of control at times!

sink

I'm a bit of a tech geek, but I have never used a mac for more than 5 minutes, not including my iPhone. I have used virtually every windows since 3.1, multiple unix/linux implementations but never have had the want or need to use Mac OS. If I could install it on PC I would've tried it out years ago, but i'm not prepared to spend over the odds on hardware just to try out another OS.

Ri_Nollaig

SugarHigh wrote: »

The one thing about Macs that annoy is the perception they are somehow better for people in "creative" industries. Photoshops runs on PCs for a lot less with better performance and you also have 10 times as much software.

But it's still a great OS. It's just people who have unfounded loyalty to brands annoy me.

REALLY don't get that myself.
I have a macbook, think its a great little laptop but its far from perfect and I certainly wouldn't describe it as "it just works".
Plenty of things that could be improved but then the same could be said for just about any laptop. Why people buy one and just want to defend its honour till death ill never understand.
I have had windows desktops/laptops before and went to a macbook because I got a good offer on one, have found it to be better quailty then the previous laptop which was a dell but I am not going to shout from the root tops that "dell was crap and apple is brillant". I am sure I could get another dell that is great and a mac that is shíte.
I have no brand loyalty to any of these companies mainly because they dont give a shít about you so why should you care about them?
Same goes for other fanboy arguments.

gizmo

gbee wrote: »

Apple are for the people who just want to drive the equipment around and show it off occasionally and are not interested in what's under the hood.

This seems to be depressingly true. That being said, if they want to show off an overpriced and under spec'd piece of kit then at least I get a laugh out of it.

gbee wrote: »

Apple also have a one touch philosophy ~ it is a fantastic, but can be like driving a fully automatic car without a break pedal when one may be used to a stick shift with gear levers and handbrake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in_ju2XWn2s

stovelid

I'm always grateful to people that indicate their Apple fetish with stuff like sigs or those old Made On A Mac links. It serves as a useful early Cunt Warning mechanism.

Smart Bug

Kasabian wrote: »

This is my IPod. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My Ipod is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my IPod is useless. Without my IPod, I am useless.

What's your Ipod's name, soldier?

Dartz

I have an iTouch.

I prefer my old Zen. Better sound quality, smaller, could play videos (And transcode them into it's own format!). I only stopped using it because getting 16Gb of stuff on a 8Gig Zen was getting hard, and someone bought me the bloody itouch.

Standard Toaster

Been a PC users the last 14years and just bought my first MacBook Pro.
I've never understood the whole PC vs Mac thing to be honest. Fanboys of either side tend to be knobheads tbh

Professey Chin

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Fanboys of either side tend to be in general are knobheads tbh

Fixed

skelliser

Android ftw!!!

hal9000

Have used windows, macs and linux; all have there pros and cons, all depends what you want out of your OS.
Its the American style marketing campaigns I hate:
The mac campaigns reek of smug.
The windows campaigns are just god awful (windows 7 HostingYourParty someone should of got lynched for that one)
Linux... well you wont see many adds for ubuntu during the super bowl!

FruitLover

Windows is for regular kids.

MacOS is for Emos and 'special' kids.




Linux is for adults.

Tar.Aldarion

Smart Bug wrote: »

What's your Ipod's name, soldier?

Mine is iPaul. I like touching him

bossa_nova

hal9000 wrote: »

The mac campaigns reek of smug.

This, i hate those adverts, that stupid 'oh hai and i'm a mac' and him all trendy looking, then the weird peado looking pc guy, that whole campaign was just mac saying "LOL look who bad vista is, buy a mac"

http://comixed.com/2010/03/06/4-koma-comic-strip-oh-you-know/

Clanket

I use a pc all day in work. Also have a Dell at home that we use for surfing the internet. When I started getting into making music I decided to get an Imac. Bought one with a good spec up North the Christmas before last when sterling was weak so got it for the same price as a good desktop pc.

Both the pc's are tempremental as fúck. Between taking ages to start (& download anti-virus updates) then randomly freezing at various times (on numerous occasions I've felt like smashing up my work one becasue it slows to a snails place). It seems to be a trait of pc's imo. Windows had to be re-installed on both of them since they were bought as they were getting so slow. This really improved performance....for a while. Am already planning to do it again on my home one.

The Mac I only use for making music and storing pictures and videos. It's extremely stable and has never once crashed on me. It suits perfectly for what I want it to do.

I'm not an apple preacher but I'll never buy another pc for my house. Mac all the way.

Tar.Aldarion

If you fill things with stuff they slow down. Faronics deep freeze .o/
I love when you reinstall and it's so empty.

FruitLover

Alofthedunnes wrote: »

Both the pc's are tempremental as fúck. Between taking ages to start (& download anti-virus updates) then randomly freezing at various times (on numerous occasions I've felt like smashing up my work one becasue it slows to a snails place). It seems to be a trait of pc's imo

*sigh*

For the 300th or so time on these here forums: these are Windows problems. Not PC problems.

Why is it that any time one of these discussions comes up, you Mac idiots never seem to be able to tell the difference between a PC (physical device) and Windows (an operating system)? A modern Mac basically is a PC now that they've switched to Intel processors. It's the operating system (MacOS; specifically MacOS X) that is responsible for the stability, ease of use, etc.

yoyo

bossa_nova wrote: »

This, i hate those adverts, that stupid 'oh hai and i'm a mac' and him all trendy looking, then the weird peado looking pc guy, that whole campaign was just mac saying "LOL look who bad vista is, buy a mac"

http://comixed.com/2010/03/06/4-koma-comic-strip-oh-you-know/

While I do hate those stupid Mac ads I have to say the new Windows ads on TV are even more annoying, you know the ones detailing how quick the parential controls and how great IE8s private browsing features are :rolleyes:, These ads are one of the most annoying and stupid ads on tv, what were Microsoft thinking!

I use a pc all day in work. Also have a Dell at home that we use for surfing the internet. When I started getting into making music I decided to get an Imac. Bought one with a good spec up North the Christmas before last when sterling was weak so got it for the same price as a good desktop pc.

Both the pc's are tempremental as fúck. Between taking ages to start (& download anti-virus updates) then randomly freezing at various times (on numerous occasions I've felt like smashing up my work one becasue it slows to a snails place). It seems to be a trait of pc's imo. Windows had to be re-installed on both of them since they were bought as they were getting so slow. This really improved performance....for a while. Am already planning to do it again on my home one.

The Mac I only use for making music and storing pictures and videos. It's extremely stable and has never once crashed on me. It suits perfectly for what I want it to do.

I'm not an apple preacher but I'll never buy another pc for my house. Mac all the way.

Ive used Windows for years and never experienced random freezing/anti virus slowdowns since the 9x days but I do agree some of those anti virus "solutions" out there ie mc affee or Norton should be illegal they feck your computer up so much (Although I belive norton may have got better, I fixed computers that took 10 minutes!! to startup by removing norton they started up in 2 or so), Windows 7 is a stable OS (as is Vista now on the right hardware) and tbh if windows is such a problem for people as mentioned there are a rake of free linux distros out there you can get like ubuntu, linux mint etc all of which are as stable as Macs if configured correctly

Nick

ScumLord

Alofthedunnes wrote: »

I use a pc all day in work. Also have a Dell at home that we use for surfing the internet. When I started getting into making music I decided to get an Imac. Bought one with a good spec up North the Christmas before last when sterling was weak so got it for the same price as a good desktop pc.

Both the pc's are tempremental as fúck. Between taking ages to start (& download anti-virus updates) then randomly freezing at various times (on numerous occasions I've felt like smashing up my work one becasue it slows to a snails place). It seems to be a trait of pc's imo. Windows had to be re-installed on both of them since they were bought as they were getting so slow. This really improved performance....for a while. Am already planning to do it again on my home one.

The Mac I only use for making music and storing pictures and videos. It's extremely stable and has never once crashed on me. It suits perfectly for what I want it to do.

I'm not an apple preacher but I'll never buy another pc for my house. Mac all the way.

The mac is doing one thing though, you can strip back a PC to do only one thing and it's great at that one thing.

Windows has been temperamental up until now but windows 7 really does cure allot of those problems while still being compatible with just about everything.

You won't see macs outside of the office in most cases. Windows is running factories and business applications which require rock solid stability, and it's been doing that for a while. It's the home user that doesn't know what their doing that crashes windows. Windows doesn't really crash of it's own accord human error is still the leading cause of problems.

Obviously being temperamental doesn't work in the home but you have to realise just how complicated windows job is. Macs don't can't do all the things a windows based PC can.

FruitLover

FruitLover wrote: »

*sigh*

For the 300th or so time on these here forums: these are Windows problems. Not PC problems.

Why is it that any time one of these discussions comes up, you Mac idiots never seem to be able to tell the difference between a PC (physical device) and Windows (an operating system)? A modern Mac basically is a PC now that they've switched to Intel processors. It's the operating system (MacOS; specifically MacOS X) that is responsible for the stability, ease of use, etc.

The reason Mac is stable is because it's using a set set of hardware.. Windows have to cover a massive range of hardware manufacturers.

Professey Chin

FruitLover wrote: »

Windows is for regular kids.

MacOS is for Emos and 'special' kids.




Linux is for adults.

Does this mean someone who dual boots windows & linux is a paedophile?
Cause I sure as hell dont wanna share my internet with a pervert

Clanket

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I love when you reinstall and it's so empty.

It's like having a brand new toy

FruitLover wrote: »

*sigh*

For the 300th or so time on these here forums: these are Windows problems. Not PC problems.

Why is it that any time one of these discussions comes up, you Mac idiots never seem to be able to tell the difference between a PC (physical device) and Windows (an operating system)? A modern Mac basically is a PC now that they've switched to Intel processors. It's the operating system (MacOS; specifically MacOS X) that is responsible for the stability, ease of use, etc.

Sorry. I do know the difference but just so use to calling a windows computer a pc and a mac a mac. Keep up the good work.

ScumLord wrote: »

The mac is doing one thing though, you can strip back a PC to do only one thing and it's great at that one thing.

Windows has been temperamental up until now but windows 7 really does cure allot of those problems while still being compatible with just about everything.

You won't see macs outside of the office in most cases. Windows is running factories and business applications which require rock solid stability, and it's been doing that for a while. It's the home user that doesn't know what their doing that crashes windows. Windows doesn't really crash of it's own accord human error is still the leading cause of problems.

Obviously being temperamental doesn't work in the home but you have to realise just how complicated windows job is. Macs don't can't do all the things a windows based PC can.

Always found with Windows that when you're using a serious amount of memory and the hard drive has a lot of content stored they get noticeably slower. My mac is about 50% full and the programs I use for music are cpu intensive but still no problems.

Both operating systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Windows main disadvantage being it's stability (without a dedicated IT team) and Mac's being the fact that Windows has more programs.

FruitLover

Deleted User wrote: »

The reason Mac is stable is because it's using a set set of hardware..

If that's the case, please explain the lack of stability of MacOS versions previous to 10, and the renowned stability of BSD & Linux over multiple platforms (not just Intel-based).

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

Does this mean someone who dual boots windows & linux is a paedophile?

No, but it increases the likelihood that they're a witch.

ScumLord

Alofthedunnes wrote: »

Always found with Windows that when you're using a serious amount of memory and the hard drive has a lot of content stored they get noticeably slower. My mac is about 50% full and the programs I use for music are cpu intensive but still no problems.

Both operating systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Windows main disadvantage being it's stability (without a dedicated IT team) and Mac's being the fact that Windows has more programs.

You would notice allot of slowdown over time. But that's because your chopping and changing, installing - uninstalling - getting viruses and fragmenting your hard drive over time. It was an issue but not so much with windows 7 from the looks of things.

I've haven't used macs so don't know how they fare after 2 years compared to PCs. Macs are great if your only going to be doing one thing with them and can afford the massive hike in price. If you want an all rounder that is compatible with 99% of software out there then go PC. Pcs may be overkill in some respects by trying to solve everyone's problems at once but at least you can rest assured that at least one other person on the planet must have encountered the same problem as you meaning you won't have to pay for an expert to fix your computer when it goes wrong.

bertie4evr

FruitLover wrote: »

If that's the case, please explain the lack of stability of MacOS versions previous to 10, and the renowned stability of BSD & Linux over multiple platforms (not just Intel-based).

Prior to OSX they had a lot more computers than there is now. When Jobs returned he streamlined the product line. Linux is so stable because the people that use it know how to fix a problem if it happen.

Tar.Aldarion

FruitLover wrote: »

No, but it increases the likelihood that they're a witch.

What about people like me that have two flavours of linux and a version of windows on the one laptop.


And then there is my other laptop and desktop....must get every OS crackin' at once hehe

Clanket

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

What about people like me that have two flavours of linux and a version of windows on the one laptop.


And then there is my other laptop and desktop....must get every OS crackin' at once hehe

Do you have a large black pot and a flying broomstick too?

super_furry

Ten pages of idiocy! Huzzah!

Tar.Aldarion

/stirs

linux, windows, toil and trouble.

EI111

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

i never understood why people got so exited about that rotary control pad...it used to be so annoing...i dont wanna go round...just wanna go up down or sided to side u dumb ****

I've been wondering about this for years, it makes no sense, its much harder to use.

Another point- I own a macbook and ya its good, its quick etc. Mac users used to advise me that it is 'intuitive' and that once you are used to it you will never go back.
It is definitely not intuitive. I have to goole how to do things regularly. Fair enough once I know how to do them it's fine but theres no way pressing command+shift+3 to print screen is intuitive. also no cut is very annoying in finder.
I only use firefox as it is the only browser i could remove the zoom function of the multitouch mousepad with. This involved a lot of googling and messing about with about:config. I would rather use another browser...

banquo

This is really an OS debate. Some people - the vast, vast minority - run Linux, which is great.

For the home user, OSX kicks Vista's ass. Now with Win7 they're almost on par. I'm a self-confessed mactard, but I agree that Win7 is excellent - especially considering the huge range of devices it has to work on, and I even went to a lot of trouble to get the gf to let me install it on her laptop. My problem is this: I can't trust Microsoft to not release another Vista. Like (I imagine) a lot of users on here, I wound up in the role of tech support for family and friends. The sooner I can get them all on a mac with OSX the easier for my life.

partyatmygaff

banquo wrote: »

This is really an OS debate. Some people - the vast, vast minority - run Linux, which is great.

For the home user, OSX kicks Vista's ass. Now with Win7 they're almost on par. I'm a self-confessed mactard, but I agree that Win7 is excellent - especially considering the huge range of devices it has to work on, and I even went to a lot of trouble to get the gf to let me install it on her laptop. My problem is this: I can't trust Microsoft to not release another Vista. Like (I imagine) a lot of users on here, I wound up in the role of tech support for family and friends. The sooner I can get them all on a mac with OSX the easier for my life.

Until they start asking you why 95% of the software on the internet won't work.

evolutionqy7

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

If you fill things with stuff they slow down.

it all depends on how you look after your pc

banquo wrote: »

the vast, vast minority - run Linux, which is great.

i dont know any of my friends that run linux most of them couldnt give a **** what it runs as long as it runs

banquo wrote: »

For the home user, OSX kicks Vista's ass. Now with Win7 they're almost on par. I'm a self-confessed mactard, but I agree that Win7 is excellent - especially considering the huge range of devices it has to work on, and I even went to a lot of trouble to get the gf to let me install it on her laptop. My problem is this: I can't trust Microsoft to not release another Vista. Like (I imagine) a lot of users on here, I wound up in the role of tech support for family and friends. The sooner I can get them all on a mac with OSX the easier for my life.

easier life? how many hairs will they pull out knowing that their favorite programs and apps dont work on mac anymore

banquo

90% of progams in total are windows-based, not the 90% most used programs.

My 50yo mother uses: Office and the internet. 90% of what we do now is internet-based, at least at home. Those who use windows at work do so at work.

My friends who game use a console. If they didn't, Steam is available. Your software argument is bollox.

As for ''looking after your pc'' - this is exactly what I'm talking about. The typical user shouldn't need to look after their pc. When I get a laptop I don't want to have to spend ages unistalling a crappy freeware programs that were installed to keep the price of the device down (another reason macs are dearer btw). They don't want to worry about viruses or corrupt files. The typical home user - not your average 16-30yo male techie - can't find something if it's not in the Start menu, let alone uninstall a program. Windows is not nearly as user friendly as it needs to be because it tries to be everything at once: a light user-friendly program for Mom as well as an infinitely tweakable business machine that will run everything on anything. It just doesn't work. Macs, while not perfect, at least offer some solution. Super stable and super easy to use. And pretty to boot.

Time Capulse is a good example. They're expensive, but it's ridiculously easy to back up your stuff. Ask your mother to backup her windows based device to an external drive and see what happens...

Tar.Aldarion

banquo wrote: »

This is really an OS debate. Some people - the vast, vast minority - run Linux, which is great.

For the home user, OSX kicks Vista's ass. Now with Win7 they're almost on par. I'm a self-confessed mactard, but I agree that Win7 is excellent - especially considering the huge range of devices it has to work on, and I even went to a lot of trouble to get the gf to let me install it on her laptop. My problem is this: I can't trust Microsoft to not release another Vista. Like (I imagine) a lot of users on here, I wound up in the role of tech support for family and friends. The sooner I can get them all on a mac with OSX the easier for my life.

Well vista was a step in the right direction, the way ram utilisation was changed, it was a good step towards a good OS, and now we have the first one that stemmed from it. Windows 7. That thing is lightening on my desktop, and is just lovely so far. I think(hopefully) they have looked at what poeple were comlpaining about and are improving. There are too many niggles for me with osx yet(even apart from the price), like all the way to silly shortcuts and things. Also the fact that the one I was using the other day switched to visually impaired mode randomly and started saying everything that I was doing on the computer down to what keys I typed...annoying until I changed it to a sexy voice that is....now I love you mac

evolutionqy7

banquo wrote: »

90% of progams in total are windows-based, not the 90% most used programs.

My 50yo mother uses: Office and the internet. 90% of what we do now is internet-based, at least at home. Those who use windows at work do so at work.

My friends who game use a console. If they didn't, Steam is available. Your software argument is bollox.

mmm how many non-mac made games can you get for mac? how many non mac software can u get for it? mmm about 5 probably...

what applications are internet based? yeah ur mother might only need word and internet browser...my mother needs photo edditing, she likes to watch movies and listen to music, she likes to play games and do much more on her laptop...she has tried to use my mac when i had before and after trying to work it for a few mins went on her vista laptop...

Now shes using windows 7 on her laptop and she couldnt be happier

banquo

My friend had a pc that, when it was shipped, pressing ''Shift'' put it into visually impaired mode. When I went over to help them their mouse had broken and we didn't have a spare so I had to ****ing 'tab' my way through the control panel to fix. PITA. Total oddity though.

@Tar: I know what you mean about Vista being a step in the right direction, but it was such a pain in the ass to use. Win7 is great though, I think it's the first Windows OS I'd go out of my way to recommend to friends.