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Eircom enacts three strikes rule

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

    It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

    Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    leahyl wrote: »
    Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

    It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

    Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

    Is your wifi secured with a WEP/WPA password? Anybody in the house use bittorrent or limewire or anything like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,810 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Do you have one of those stupid Eircom wireless routers/modems that any 12 year old can get the password for?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    When a torrent file is being downloaded, the "swarm" contains the ip addresses who are up/down loading the file. Lots of trackers add fake ip addresses to the swarm. These ip addresses are what the record companies use to identify file-sharers. This means that your ip address could have been added to the swarm by someone else and seen by the record companies.

    That's the problem with this system and I would like to see it tested in court. If Eircom is inspecting packets, then the above information is a bit useless as it would mean that eircom could confirm that you were indeed downloading a torrent file.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    TPD wrote: »
    leahyl wrote: »
    Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

    It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

    Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!

    Is your wifi secured with a WEP/WPA password? Anybody in the house use bittorrent or limewire or anything like that?


    I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,404 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Im with SMART. 1:1 Contention, cant complain :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    leahyl wrote: »
    I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

    Yup. I'm guessing your wireless broadcast name is 'eircom12345678' or something. You should change your password (go to 192.168.1.254 in a web browser, click wireless, there should be options to change the password), which will mean reconnecting any wireless devices like your laptop, to your router, with the new password. Somebody nearby has probably been stealing your internet.

    With regards to eircom, I'd reply that somebody has gained access to your internet because of their own awful encryption system, and downloaded the files without your knowledge. I'm not sure what legal legs you have to stand on, but it's more eircom's fault than yours. Also, if you have any proof from Apple that you bought the album through iTunes, you should probably forward that to them too. A dated invoice email or something.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    leahyl wrote: »
    I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

    When did you get eircom internet? If you have a netopia router from a few years ago, a child could crack your wifi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    TPD wrote: »
    leahyl wrote: »
    I have no idea what bittorrent or limewire is!! I'm really clueless on these things! Is WEP the password on the bottom of the router? If it is then yes I have one of them!

    Yup. I'm guessing your wireless broadcast name is 'eircom12345678' or something. You should change your password (go to 192.168.1.254 in a web browser, click wireless, there should be options to change the password), which will mean reconnecting any wireless devices like your laptop, to your router, with the new password. Somebody nearby has probably been stealing your internet.

    With regards to eircom, I'd reply that somebody has gained access to your internet because of their own awful encryption system, and downloaded the files without your knowledge. I'm not sure what legal legs you have to stand on, but it's more eircom's fault than yours. Also, if you have any proof from Apple that you bought the album through iTunes, you should probably forward that to them too. A dated invoice email or something.

    Thanks - and the weird thing is I was syncing my iPod with my computer the other day and I lost a load of music - once again I did nothing that would cause this to happen - and I lost a few albums, one of them being Imelda may so I'm wondering has this something to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Quick question:

    Is downloading 20 GB of pr0n per day considered suspicious?

    Way a head of ya! Both Eircom and NTL view this is as 'reasonable use'. Equally my doctor reckons the crippling pains in my arm and the 'chicken skinning' of my nob is down to 'run-of-the-mill wear and tear' and is 'to-be-expected' for a young man of my age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    leahyl wrote: »
    Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

    It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

    Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!
    Send them a copy of the email reciept for your itunes purchase of imelda may and a photocopy of your hand giving them the middle finger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭vampire of kilmainham


    i left eircom a long time back im with UPC now and have no problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    leahyl wrote: »
    Guys can someone please help - I know this thread is a few months old but my dad got one of these letters today from eircom about illegal music sharing. I am the primary and only Internet user on the house and I have NEVER downloaded anything illegally. I only ever download music from iTunes. I'm really freaked out by this and don't know what to do.

    It says I downloaded Imelda May and the ironic thing is I have her album bur I got it LEGALLY from iTunes.

    Eircom is basically telling me that I'm responsible for this even though I haven't done it and have no idea how it happened!!
    Show eircom your receipts for legally purchased music then sue them for slander.


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