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Which comes first?....

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  • 25-05-2010 2:25pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭


    When applying for a mortgage, which comes first:
    Finding, viewing and making an offer on the desired property
    or
    Going to the bank to find out if they'll give a mortgage?

    Sorry if it's a stupid question. I'm totally clueless about all this mortgage thing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    Go to the bank first and find out what they'll give you. This gives you an idea of what sort of house you could look for, and where. No point making offers on houses if you have no clue what mortgage you may have available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Thanks. I was looking at fairly cheap houses that i figure i should be able to afford but the bank still mightn't want to give me a loan. All very confusing. I only just found out i need things like solicitors and things too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Sorry, another question... Are your savings taken into account when applying for a mortgage or is it simple based on your income


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    phi3 wrote: »
    Sorry, another question... Are your savings taken into account when applying for a mortgage or is it simple based on your income

    Savings will be taken into account, especially since you will need at least 8% of the purchase price saved as a deposit, plus solicitors fees.
    phi3 wrote: »
    I was looking at fairly cheap houses

    No such thing yet ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Stee wrote: »
    Savings will be taken into account, especially since you will need at least 8% of the purchase price saved as a deposit, plus solicitors fees.



    No such thing yet ;)

    Well.... Cheaper.... Everything i look up on the net says it is basically 3-4 times your salary you're allowed borrow. Which isn't very much. But working it out myself, i have the 8% deposit, i have enough for the legal fees and the repayments shouldn't be much more than the rent. But i'm not sure the bank will agree with me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,299 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    phi3 wrote: »
    the repayments shouldn't be much more than the rent
    Eh? What rent do you speak of?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    the_syco wrote: »
    Eh? What rent do you speak of?

    The rent i pay. I did the mortgage calculator thing on the aib website and the monthly repayments are similar to the monthly rent i pay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    phi3 wrote: »
    The rent i pay. I did the mortgage calculator thing on the aib website and the monthly repayments are similar to the monthly rent i pay.

    you need to realise interest rates are at an historically low level and your monthly repayments are likely to increae from what your seeing by a significant portion.

    you need to calculate with rates of 6, 7 or even 8% to really stress test how afforable a mortgage is for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    phi3 wrote: »
    The rent i pay. I did the mortgage calculator thing on the aib website and the monthly repayments are similar to the monthly rent i pay.

    Hey Phi,

    Just remember to also add in the variety of charges that comes with ownership in comparison to renting when you are doing your math.
    Council charges, water (future), waste etc./Management fees
    Insurances
    Repairs - Paintwork etc
    Boiler/Heating servicing
    Upkeep equipment - Lawnmowers etc

    When you add all that in it may seem more appealing to stay renting to a bit longer :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Doesn't a fixed rate mean the rates won't increase? Or am i totally wrong... I'm not too well up on all this stuff as ye can probably see!
    Ya i know there will be extra charges, I have taken some into account like house insurance, life assurance and waste charges. But i'm sure there's stuff i'm forgetting.
    Sometimes i think i am better off renting but i do really want my own place.
    Have a feeling the banks will turn me down though. But we'll see.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    your correct a fixed rate wont incres for the term of the rate. i.e 3 year fixed is fixed for 3 years then in the 37th month there could be a significant change you your montly repayments. just be sure your looking at this in the long term and not the short term.

    and zamboni is right about additional costs ensure you have calculated these in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Seany


    OP some banks arent really open for mortgage business at the moment.

    You say you have 8% deposit saved which pretty much means that you require a 92% mortgage...so you are largely talking about one of two lenders who offer this.

    The bank will make their decision based on:

    Evidence of your ability to repay (E.g monthly rent you have been paying, combined with any regular savings). They stress test every application. Although interest rates are around the 3% mark now...they wont always be so the bank will assess what your repayment would be at 5/6/7% and see if you still meet their criteria.

    Your employment sector.
    The lender is unlikely to approve an application if you work in an industry which is particularly volitile at the moment (which isnt? :()

    Income multiples and net affordability
    Most lenders will apply one or the other (or sometimes both) when calculating what you can afford. Income multiple is usually 3-4 times your salary and net affordability is a percentage of your take home pay (e.g the lender will allow 30% - 40% of your take home pay to be used as monthly mortgage payment.

    Track record
    If you have had any loans in the past (or missed payments) this will be taken into consideration.

    With regard to your question about fixed rate...yes, if you opt for a fixed rate for 3 years, your rate will not change for 3 years. At the end of the 3 years the bank will give you the option of fixing again or taking their variable rate.


    My advice...take your time out there. Its a buyers market and once you have loan approval, use it to your advantage. Make a cheeky offer on property with the promise that as a first time buyer you can move quickly (and not caught up in a chain of selling a property yourself).

    I am a financial adviser and work with lenders on a daily basis. If you have any further questions...I'll do my best to answer.

    Best of luck,
    Sean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭testicle


    D3PO wrote: »
    you need to realise interest rates are at an historically low level

    No they're not. They were lower a few months ago. A few months isn't historic by any stretch!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    testicle wrote: »
    No they're not. They were lower a few months ago. A few months isn't historic by any stretch!

    OK let me rephrase. The ECB baserate is at an historically low level. Jeez could you be any more pedantic ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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