Eurovision 2010.

DWCommuter · 29-05-2010 11:52pm

10000maniacs wrote: »

A bit O.T.T?
In fairness the song was Titanic without the chorus, and she didn't sing it particularly well, so naturally we did badly. We have to re-invent our strategy.
If I ran RTE, I would pull out and save the money like Italy did. If we put in the best song ever written by the best singer ever, we still wouldn't get any votes from at least half the countries (mostly eastern bloc).
Its the same for the UK. I hope they pull out too.

Yeah. Best solution. Pull out of it altogether. Considering the various cutbacks across Gov funded bodies, the RTE Eurovision budget should get the chop first thing Monday morning.

murpho999 · 29-05-2010 11:53pm

10000maniacs wrote: »

A bit O.T.T?
In fairness the song was Titanic without the chorus, and she didn't sing it particularly well, so naturally we did badly. We have to re-invent our strategy.
If I ran RTE, I would pull out and save the money like Italy did. If we put in the best song ever written by the best singer ever, we still wouldn't get any votes from at least half the countries (mostly eastern bloc).
Its the same for the UK. I hope they pull out too.

If it's all political can you explain how Germany won it then?

It does come down to the song/act.

KeRbDoG · 29-05-2010 11:53pm

arsenallegend wrote: »

why did italy pull out for?

Looks like a bunch of counties aren't in it;
Andorra · Austria · Czech Republic · Hungary · Italy · Lebanon · Liechtenstein · Luxembourg · Monaco · Montenegro · Morocco · San Marino

Seems like Italy just pulled out of it (again in 1997)

OPENROAD · 29-05-2010 11:53pm

arsenallegend wrote: »

you get the feeling from them they couldn't give two damns about it anymore don't you. Don't be surprised if they pull it from BBC1 and stick it on BBC4 or something

I do wish they would bring back Terry Wogan, that said this is the first year I watched it on RTE and listening to Marty taking it all so serious and getting more and more depressed by the minute was great entertainment

Bottleopener · 29-05-2010 11:54pm

murpho999 wrote: »

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Yes, odd to Irish people as 'Kate Nash' is well known here but but not so well in other countries through Europe.

We really need to get a bit more poppy or a decent rock act.

Sick of ballads and flutes. Need to change how songs are put forward to national finals.

This. Ireland have the completely wrong attitude towards Eurovision. We send a song that wouldn't even chart here under normal circumstances and expect it to win. We need to send something modern that people listen to on a regular basis. I feel we deserved our low position tonight :P

RonMexico · 29-05-2010 11:54pm

DWCommuter wrote: »

It didn't deserve to be 3rd last and your Barney and overweight joke is wearing thin.

Yeah it is not nice but it is true. Simon Cowell didn't make millions by being nice. The entertainment business is as shallow as you can get and nothing will change that.

wicklowstar · 29-05-2010 11:54pm

kerbdog wrote: »

Looks like a bunch of counties aren't in it;
Andorra · Austria · Czech Republic · Hungary · Italy · Lebanon · Liechtenstein · Luxembourg · Monaco · Montenegro · Morocco · San Marino

Morocco were in it one year i think.. Pulled out because of religious stuffs..

ballsymchugh · 29-05-2010 11:55pm

kerbdog wrote: »

Looks like a bunch of counties aren't in it;
Andorra · Austria · Czech Republic · Hungary · Italy · Lebanon · Liechtenstein · Luxembourg · Monaco · Montenegro · Morocco · San Marino

lebanon?? morocco?? are they cheating their way into the EBU like israel???

sceptre · 29-05-2010 11:55pm

arsenallegend wrote: »

yDon't be surprised if they pull it from BBC1 and stick it on BBC4 or something

BBC3.

BBC4 has quite high standards.

Keano · 29-05-2010 11:55pm

Johnny Logan next year. Seriously, he seems to have a following around a lot of European countries.

arsenallegend · 29-05-2010 11:56pm

OPENROAD wrote: »

I do wish they would bring back Terry Wogan, that said this is the first year I watched it on RTE and listening to Marty taking it all so serious and getting more and more depressed by the minute was great entertainment

i was waiting for him to walk out:D you could tell which country was going to vote quite easily

Bottleopener · 29-05-2010 11:56pm

murpho999 wrote: »

If it's all political can you explain how Germany won it then?

It does come down to the song/act.

And if it's all political how did Belgium come so high! We just have to send a song with more appeal than Niamh's.

OPENROAD · 29-05-2010 11:56pm

KrazeeEyezKilla wrote: »

Thing is Ireland is so associated with ballads I can't see a Pop/Rock act doing much either. Someone mentioned doing a Trad type ballad with a good looking singer. It would be worth a try.

I like ballads,(the love song type not the trad type) I just didn't think our song was all that strong, it wasn't too bad, a nice enough melody, but the vocals didn't do it for me

arsenallegend · 29-05-2010 11:57pm

sceptre wrote: »

BBC3.

BBC4 has quite high standards.

sorry how rude of me

mike65 · 29-05-2010 11:58pm

arsenallegend wrote: »

you get the feeling from them they couldn't give two damns about it anymore don't you. Don't be surprised if they pull it from BBC1 and stick it on BBC4 or something

BBC3 Shirley?

edit beaten to it!

calex71 · 29-05-2010 11:59pm

Highlight for me this year - Romania

JonathanAnon · 29-05-2010 11:59pm

She's a lovely looking girl, but god she was embarrassing tonight ...
"do I have to sing it again?"...:mad:

ballsymchugh · 30-05-2010 12:01am

highlight of the night, apart from the talent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jizUF_dBns

DWCommuter · 30-05-2010 12:02am

RonMexico wrote: »

Yeah it is not nice but it is true. Simon Cowell didn't make millions by being nice. The entertainment business is as shallow as you can get and nothing will change that.

Your having a laugh now. The Eurovision is far removed from the "entertainment" business. Personally I'd axe it. Comments about Niamh Kavanagh are just infantile. The entire competition is a farce since the early 90s in terms of launching new talent and since the admission of eastern european countries, its a dated concept.

The whole thing is nothing more than a "tradition" thats gained new life via musically inept nations in eastern europe.

OPENROAD · 30-05-2010 12:02am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

She's a lovely looking girl, but god she was embarrassing tonight ...
"do I have to sing it again?"...:mad:

She really is, think I'm in Love

RonMexico · 30-05-2010 12:03am

We should just send a babe dressed like the latest pop act singing the latest pop trend. Screw Linda Martin, Twink and Johnnu Logan and all the prune faced experts. Get a jury formed by westlife/michelle heaton/Louis Walsh and let them find a song and get on with it.

rebel10 · 30-05-2010 12:03am

kerbdog wrote: »

Seems like Italy just pulled out of it (again in 1997)

Looking at that we need to get Italy back in. Look at the countries they have given most points to. New campaign.....Get Italy back!!!

Fergus · 30-05-2010 12:03am

kerbdog wrote: »

Seems like Italy just pulled out of it (again in 1997)

Interesting that. I wonder how much the viewership would dwindle if we pulled out.

casio4 · 30-05-2010 12:04am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

She's a lovely looking girl, but god she was embarrassing tonight ...
"do I have to sing it again?"...:mad:

yeah but it's her age she's 17, all teenagers go on like her:cool:

dloob · 30-05-2010 12:04am

Ok everybody bow and arrow, funky chicken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGv7VS-37OE

Kalimah · 30-05-2010 12:05am

The whole thing is a waste of time. We should write is off as a bad job and pull out next year. What's the point? The song was one of the better ones. It should have been top 10. Germany was definitely not the best. If Denmark had won I would have been reasonably happy.

Fergus · 30-05-2010 12:05am

RonMexico wrote: »

We should just send a babe dressed like the latest pop act singing the latest pop trend. Screw Linda Martin, Twink and Johnnu Logan and all the prune faced experts. Get a jury formed by westlife/michelle heaton/Louis Walsh and let them find a song and get on with it.

Only thing is I think that's basically what the UK have been trying a lot recently and it hasn't worked for them.

10000maniacs · 30-05-2010 12:05am

murpho999 wrote: »

If it's all political can you explain how Germany won it then?

It does come down to the song/act.

I didn't say it was all political. But a huge part of it is. Germany, because of its huge ethnic population have been moving up the EV ranks in recent years, and that together with a decent song did it this year. It also helped that it was already number 1 in four countries before the contest.

RonMexico · 30-05-2010 12:07am

DWCommuter wrote: »

Your having a laugh now. The Eurovision is far removed from the "entertainment" business. Personally I'd axe it. Comments about Niamh Kavanagh are just infantile. The entire competition is a farce since the early 90s in terms of launching new talent and since the admission of eastern european countries, its a dated concept.

The whole thing is nothing more than a "tradition" thats gained new life via musically inept nations in eastern europe.

Lol spot the sore loser who wants to axe it because we were disgraced.

OPENROAD · 30-05-2010 12:07am

RonMexico wrote: »

We should just send a babe dressed like the latest pop act singing the latest pop trend. Screw Linda Martin, Twink and Johnnu Logan and all the prune faced experts. Get a jury formed by westlife/michelle heaton/Louis Walsh and let them find a song and get on with it.