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RidleyRider wrote: »Haha I know I know, I'm working on it
Work hardercolman1212 wrote: »What was wrong with your deadlift form out of interest? Rounded lower back or something?
Piss poor movement to begin with, a billion compensations as a result, awful start position and a house of cards instead of a spinal column as a result, probably next to no glute/hamstring involvment, zero programming, going too heavy too aften, doing the movement too often, being a complete numpty in general.... ah the good old days!Nervous Wreck wrote: »I walked by when you were setting up for this. It definitely did not look like a creepy sex-swing...
I saw you staring at me, please don't rub your nipple in public mate its just not cool.
Today
Lat Pulldown
Bench Row
DB Row
Aaaaaaaaaaabdominalzzzzz
Hung upside-down again for about 10 minutes having found a much easier way to get into position without the need for help. Legs are still minced from Sundays squatting... I'll crosstrainer them back to full health this evening0 -
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DB Military Press (6x15)
Db lat raise (4x15)
Barbell shrugs + Reverse Fly (4x15)
Cable Pressdown (5x20)
OH Extension (5x20)
Crosstrainer - 30mins
Weight is still coming down.. 99.1 on the home scales that run about 1kg heavier than the ones i used when I started dieting. Slow and steady keeps the gains and all that. Must take some topless pics soon to scare the woman and children 0 -
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My heart feels like it wants to explode after 20 reps. Fair play for doing it twice at such a heavy weight.
Percentage wise it's pretty low so not very heavy (my bodies understanding of heavy is 'if you get this wrong it could kill you')... high rep sets just keep training interesting while Im dieting and until I'm comfortable pushing the percentages on again. That being said I'm going to put knee wraps on and have a shot at 180-200kg x20 in the not so distant future 0 -
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Just wondering, in your experience does lifting affect the recovery of your lower back much?
Yes, its speeds it up, but only when the training is the right training. I've found that periods of inactivity and too much time spent playing it safe leaves me tight, immobile, bored and in more pain then I usually am while training.I injured my lower back about two weeks ago doing a shoulder press. I arched my back too much on the last rep and felt something give out on the right side of my lower back. It flared up for a good few days after and I found myself having to lean on things while sitting up out of a chair, or walking up stairs etc. I actually fell to the ground after kicking a ball once.
Hopefully its nothing major, I've aggravated my back doing over head stuff before and but it nothing ever felt like it gave away.I'v been to the physio who said that whatever I did is causing a bad spasm. She gave me some stretches (mostly glute stretches)to do and it's slowly but surely recovering.
Keep doing what you are told if its working! You are a unique snowflake - so what works for me may not work for you.I did one weight training session against her advice and I could feel the area sort of ''bulging'' a bit when doing rows or benching. Only worked up to one heavy-ish set on chins, rows, bench and OH press.
I'd avoid unsupported DB or barbell rows when my back is sore, just because of the shearing force across the lumbar and the torque in single arm stuff. I also avoid shrugs, barbell squats and overhead pressing of any kind at different times for the same reason.Just wondering if I'm only prolonging the injury by doing weights? I'm guessing the physio doesn't even lift so she would naturally advise staying away from the weights. It drives me insane though, watching myself lose muscle and get fatter and not being able to do anything about it.
Firstly - It doesn't really matter if your physio lifts... as long as they understand the nature of your addiction.
Secondly - there's no reason to get fatter. Just modify your diet!
Thirdly - you're really not going to atrophy that much in a fortnight, you might feel a bit flatter etc. but that'll be psychological as much as anything else.
Are you prolonging your injury training? That depends on you really... if it hurts in the bad sense of the term, then don't do it. Like the first time I exploded my back I couldn't deadlift without sharp pain, but I could front squat all day. So for me axial loading was out but that didn't mean I had to sit around waiting to magically feel better. If OH pressing aggravates your back, then don't do it... do something else instead and try to make sure its something you enjoy.. add stuff that you hate and that you are crap at and get good at that too.. just because they are usually two very good reasons to do them. For me, its unilateral lower body stuff, for you it could be reverse curls.. who knows.
I'm all for aggressive rehab, I've seen many physios/osteos/doctors/voodoo merchants over the years and the only people I rate in any way are the ones that understood that yeah, I'm wired a bit differantly, that my rehab isn't about pain free living, its about getting back into competition... and that meant a commitment on their part to not play it safe, and instead of telling me to stretch and hope for the best they got me moving, strengthening areas, mobilising others, and stabilising others again... all while allowing me to push myself to that end.
I'll give you an example.. A friend of mine is a 'qualified' physio... 4 year degree etc, he knows what I'm all about and provided me with a rehab program over the past couple of months that has helped me train with moderate intensity using all the movements I love. Granted he might have me standing on one leg with my eyes closed, or doing single leg squats, and a heap of other crap that I hate... but today when he said ok, go deadlift... I said grand I'll keep it at like 30% and he laughed and said that's stupid... push it to around fifty and keep the reps high because this is going to feel like new movement. I like his style. Another physio might have said no, don't deadlift, if you explode then I look bad, so do some endless core work instead and we'll see how you are in 6 months.
But that's just me. First port of call is do what you're told... just try to get your advice from someone that knows that you're a little bit f*cking insane
On that note...
Today -*All the rehab*
Deadlift (Conventional) - Double overhand - Beltless
Bar - all the tech work
60kg (2x10)
80kg x10
100kg x10
120kg x10
140kg x10
Did not explode, this is good....
And then Lat Pulldowns, Seated Rows and DB Rows... (many x lots)
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Squats
60kg (3x5)
100kg (2x5)
140kg x5
*sleeves/belt*
170kg x15
Stiff Leg Deadlift
60kg x15
80kg x15
100kg x15
Step Ups (18inch box... giggidy)
(3x10/10)
Single Arm KB Swing 45s (20kg) + Plank (1min)
X5
Probably could have pushed for more reps on the squat and the stiff legs were easy. Updating log from Aussie BBQ - win 0 -
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