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Ronnie effin Whelan
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LuckyLloyd wrote: »He is critiscising the manager for not giving opportunities to new faces when a portion of the training camp was specially focused on younger uncapped players and a specific match behind closed doors was organised so that they could be looked at during 90 minutes. Not to mention the new caps given to the likes of Green and Cunningham over the course of the two games.
As for the style of football we are employing? Unbeaten in 12 competitive games and having produced a performance in the last competitive game better than that achieved by an Irish side for the best part of a decade. Under the current coaching staff, we are maximizing the talent at our disposal.
Ah come off it. Trap is very, very reluctant to change his starting 11. The result is twofold- very few new players being tried out when the opportunity arises. Secondly, a lot of our squad players aren't getting enough experience playing for Ireland, so when they might be called upon during a competitive match, they'll be thrown in at the deep end. I'm not saying Trap should change his entire team/squad for every friendly match, but he needs to look at all his options.
We desperately need to find a new LB (I said this a year ago when Kilbane was clearly found wanting against Bulgaria, twice). O'Dea & Ward should have been given some significant game time in friendlies last year. They haven't and we still have a problem at left-back. (Not having a go at KK as I know he's been a great servant to Ireland, just highlighting a problem position for us, and Trap's apparent lack of concern/unwillingness to address the problem.)
We also need to explore all our options in centre midfield. We need more creativity against the lesser teams especially. Is Andy Reid still available for us, or will Trap never forgive him for playing the banjo?
And, why the fcuk does Trap persist with McShane when we could have Foley, Finnan, or even Carr ahead of him?0 -
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Johnny Utah wrote: »Ah come off it. Trap is very, very reluctant to change his starting 11. The result is twofold- very few new players being tried out when the opportunity arises. Secondly, a lot of our squad players aren't getting enough experience playing for Ireland, so when they might be called upon during a competitive match, they'll be thrown in at the deep end. I'm not saying Trap should change his entire team/squad for every friendly match, but he needs to look at all his options.
We desperately need to find a new LB (I said this a year ago when Kilbane was clearly found wanting against Bulgaria, twice). O'Dea & Ward should have been given some significant game time in friendlies last year. They haven't and we still have a problem at left-back. (Not having a go at KK as I know he's been a great servant to Ireland, just highlighting a problem position for us, and Trap's apparent lack of concern/unwillingness to address the problem.)
We also need to explore all our options in centre midfield. We need more creativity against the lesser teams especially. Is Andy Reid still available for us, or will Trap never forgive him for playing the banjo?
And, why the fcuk does Trap persist with McShane when we could have Foley, Finnan, or even Carr ahead of him?
Eh, we started a new cap at left back against Algeria?
The central midfield thing has been done to death. The system, and players who fit the system, will be prioritised under the current set up. Green was started against Algeria and did very well, so I'd imagine he will be added with the trio of Andrews, Whelan, Gibson (all playing their part in the Premiership last season don't forget). Additionally, if Steven Reid can get himself fit and playing at WBA I'd imagine he will be back in the squad soon enough.
As for the last point, Foley had injury problems last season, and Finnan is officially retired as far as I am aware. McShane is in the squad at present, but not a member of the first 11. We are not blessed with depth at center half / right back. I would prefer if we were, but it just isn't the case.
I could see why you would like Whelan though. Facts aren't really your thing on the basis of the above couple of posts.0 -
LuckyLloyd wrote: »Eh, we started a new cap at left back against Algeria?
Read my above post again. I said that either Ward/O'Dea should have been tried out at LB 12 months ago. It's good that Cunningham got his first cap, but the fact that Trap is only looking at the LB position now tells its own story.LuckyLloyd wrote: »The central midfield thing has been done to death. The system, and players who fit the system, will be prioritised under the current set up. Green was started against Algeria and did very well, so I'd imagine he will be added with the trio of Andrews, Whelan, Gibson (all playing their part in the Premiership last season don't forget). Additionally, if Steven Reid can get himself fit and playing at WBA I'd imagine he will be back in the squad soon enough.
With good reason. We need more creativity in the centre of midfield.
Agree that Green did very well in both games. Also agree that Andrews/Whelan/Gibson are decent Premiership players, but I'd like to see the likes of Fahey or McCarthy (yes, I know he was not available for these two games) being tried out in the centre alongside Whelan for one of these friendly games. We badly need to be more creative to win against the poorer sides in our qualifying group- we can't just bore them into submission!LuckyLloyd wrote: »As for the last point, Foley had injury problems last season, and Finnan is officially retired as far as I am aware. McShane is in the squad at present, but not a member of the first 11. We are not blessed with depth at center half / right back. I would prefer if we were, but it just isn't the case.
Thought Finnan said, a few months ago, he would make himself available if he called upon.
Trap seems to have a thing for McShane though? He brought on McShane in Paris when he also had Stephen Kelly on the bench that night?LuckyLloyd wrote: »I could see why you would like Whelan though. Facts aren't really your thing on the basis of the above couple of posts.
:rolleyes: No need for snide remarks!0 -
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daveyboy_1ie wrote: »Hold on a second here people, Ronnie Whelan is a Liverpool legend and ex captian at that. He has played almost 500 games for the club and won 6 League titles .
This is no digruntled ex player with an axe to grind (ala Giles against United who felt harshly treated by the club). His opinions are not the ramblings of some drunk in the corner who says he 'could of been somebody', he loves the club. So he is entitled to his opinions of the club he helped make great. Whilst I don't agree with them all, to suggest he has an agenda is beyond a joke, and he is not the only ex player to vent such opinions and concerns. People need to take a step back and see why he has these opinions and concerns for the club, instead of shooting the messenger.nipplenuts wrote: »Maybe, but you can at least concede he is qualified to comment - more qualified than you (I presume) or I.
Football is not about opinions - you're confusing it with debating, a point which, to be honest, makes your observation re understanding the game somewhat amusing.
Now I don't watch Sky Sports so I can't directly comment on the quality of their pundits, but if the policy for broadcast is anything like the News team then they are aimed at the lowest brow, the Sun reader type.
The following article just about sums it up for me.
Various 'pundits', 'former professionals' talking out of their arse:A pundit, according to the Oxford Dictionary, is ‘an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called upon to give their opinion to the public’.
Tune into La Liga coverage and watch Guillem Balague – there’s a pundit, right there. He knows his onions, he’s done his research - he even pronounces the players’ names right and can throw the odd witty comment into the mix. All in his second language, too.
Then there’s Jamie Redknapp. Comparing the tight-kecked pretty boy to Balague is like comparing Fernando Torres and Victor Anichebe.
They might do the same job but the gap in ability is easier to see than Alex Ferguson’s nose on a winter’s day.
Redknapp, Harry’s son of course, has been sticking the boot in on the club he played hundreds of sideway passes for on a regular basis this last season.
Fair enough, you might say, it was a disappointing campaign after all.
No argument, but if you’re going to dish out stick - and get paid well for the privilege – you’ve got to get your facts right.
Get them wrong and your arguments look thinner than one of Jamie’s ties. Angrily perched on the couch during Sky’s coverage of Liverpool’s league defeat at Old Trafford in March, Redknapp told the millions that Liverpool have missed Xabi Alonso.
Nothing new there then, just the repeating of an over-stated viewpoint that has been doing the rounds all season.
But he went on to say that the Reds would particularly miss him at Old Trafford – because he had been so influential the year before in the 4-1 routing of Slur Alex’s side.
“Xabi Alonso was sensational spreading the ball to Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard that day,” he told viewers in a gaffe Garth Crooks would be proud of.
Of course Alonso didn’t play that day due to injury.
To use the clichéd commentary, Jamie is so fond of – it’s a schoolboy error. Maybe he should leave the Wii-playing to his old fella and the missus and do a bit of research once in a while?
To close the case against Redknapp, we must look at his favourite word. Literally.
Gems include: "He's LITERALLY left Ben Haim for dead there" and “Gerrard has been amazing. He’s literally covered every blade of grass on the pitch”
And who can forget: “Alonso and Sissoko have been picked to literally sit in front of the back four.”
Like ‘loyalty’, Jamie clearly doesn’t know the meaning of the word ‘literally’. There’s even a Facebook petition to have him taught its correct use.
So for crimes against Liverpool Football Club and football punditry, we find Redknapp guilty. And for his punishment we propose a month of eating McDonalds three times a day.
That way his arse wouldn’t fit into those spray on kecks, the women will turn off, and there’ll be even less of a point to him being on the couch at Sky.
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