More car-audio setup questions...

JayC5

Apologies for all the questions in the past while but I swear this is the last batch

So, I want to replace the speakers in my VW Golf 04 Mk5 for a number of reasons (one blown in the front and none present in the back) and have a few questions:

Whats the standard speaker size for a VW Golf 04 Mk5 (theres two right? the standard lower door and tweeters, are the backdoor the same type as the front?) - I can't seem to find the spec anywhere, also do I really need to put speakers in the back of a hatchback? There are none at the moment as I think the previous owner removed them but does it add to the overall sound?

Whats the standard wattage of car-stereo speakers, by this I mean what should I get to suit a sony stereo with Max. Power Output (1KHz, 40Ω) 4x 52W ?

Thanks in advance for both your time and help folks

J

si_guru

4 x 52watt? Sounds a lot.

Eric Cartman

afaik there 13cm speakers, thats 52 watts max (25 watts RMS) a channel , so most car speakers will do , get yourself a nice set of pioneers or blaupunkts

zilog_jones

JayC5 wrote: »

...also do I really need to put speakers in the back of a hatchback? There are none at the moment as I think the previous owner removed them but does it add to the overall sound?

Is the wiring there? Traditionally lower spec cars didn't have any rear speakers fitted (which also meant there was no wiring so you'd have to run cables from the stereo yourself), but I thought that would be unusual for something so modern. Are VW that cheap?

JayC5

zilog_jones wrote: »

Is the wiring there? Traditionally lower spec cars didn't have any rear speakers fitted (which also meant there was no wiring so you'd have to run cables from the stereo yourself), but I thought that would be unusual for something so modern. Are VW that cheap?

Not sure about the wiring, haven't checked yet. I assume there were speakers there previously as the perforations are there in the door where said speakers should be...

Is it that noticeable to have speakers in the front as opposed to a 4 speaker setup tho - that's what I really wanna find out

Also, are there any decent Irish websites for buying speakers - it costs a fortune in shipping to get 'em from the UK!!

vectra

I would go for 4 speakers if I were you.
As for what to buy..?
How much do you want to spend?
It is not as expensive as you may think to get them in from the UK

zilog_jones

JayC5 wrote: »

Not sure about the wiring, haven't checked yet. I assume there were speakers there previously as the perforations are there in the door where said speakers should be...

Many cars I've seen with only 2 speakers fitted have the facilities for placing rear speakers in the doors or behind the rear seats, but no wiring. My Fiesta has spaces for 6 speakers - standard front door, tweeters in front doors, and rear speakers (adjacent to the parcel shelf), only the two front speakers are fitted and wired.

Is it that noticeable to have speakers in the front as opposed to a 4 speaker setup tho - that's what I really wanna find out

It's certainly noticeable for the rear passengers I dunno in general, cars are a pretty terrible place for acoustics anyway...

vectra

zilog_jones wrote: »

It's certainly noticeable for the rear passengers I dunno in general, cars are a pretty terrible place for acoustics anyway...

Apparently one model of Golf had particularly good acoustics.

zilog_jones

Maybe relative to other cars, but they are far from optimal for any sort of decent listening experience - you've got a lot of glass, you're not sitting in the centre so the stereo "image" is completely skewed (unless you have a McLaren F1 ), and there's seats/people pretty much in the middle of the car blocking a lot of sound between the front and back of the car, and then there's road noise, etc.

vectra

zilog_jones wrote: »

Maybe relative to other cars, but they are far from optimal for any sort of decent listening experience - you've got a lot of glass, you're not sitting in the centre so the stereo "image" is completely skewed (unless you have a McLaren F1 ), and there's seats/people pretty much in the middle of the car blocking a lot of sound between the front and back of the car, and then there's road noise, etc.

Bloody hell..
We are talking about a car here.
of course it is relative to other cars.. You hardly thought I was comparing it to a home cinema or a concert hall :rolleyes:

JayC5

vectra wrote: »

I would go for 4 speakers if I were you.
As for what to buy..?
How much do you want to spend?
It is not as expensive as you may think to get them in from the UK

Hey,

Well I'd like to keep the price around 100euros or less, much less if possible but I do want a decent enough sound I suppose. Where would you recommend from the UK then as a matter of interest?

J

vectra

JayC5 wrote: »

Hey,

Well I'd like to keep the price around 100euros or less, much less if possible but I do want a decent enough sound I suppose. Where would you recommend from the UK then as a matter of interest?

J

I bought some kit from this company in the UK for my Civic.
Delivery is a flat rate of £20 + £40 for 2 pairs of speakers = £60 all in.
You could got for these assuming you need 13cm
Pioneer

Personally I would got for something a little more expensive and get some more cash together and stick an amp on later.
But you probably wont need it .

Hope this helps