Israel Kills 10 aid workers

Di0genes

TMoreno wrote: »

The 5 Dancing Israelis were Mossad agents and they were there "to document the event". They said that on Israel TV. What can I do. Facts are facts:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html
It's the beginning of the end for Mossad and co.

You mean their diabolical plot was only discovered after they gave a TV interview explaining how they planned 9/11 to start a new world order.

Damn they almost got away with it and everything too were it not for this one fatal flaw :rolleyes:

ultain

Israel is trying to demonise Hamas..They dont want Palestine to have their own state. The Jewish race is suffering from a huge collective trauma resulting from events during the second world war.. sociopathic tendencies.

TMoreno

studiorat wrote: »

You said that the dancing on the streets of Gaza didn't happen either yet I showed you you were wrong. Now you say the Dancing Jews were Mossad agents.

Those Mossad agents were in New York on 9/11 and they were celebrating the biggest terrorist operation ever pulled off by Israel. They were arrested and quickly deported. Surprise, surprise...
When the American people will find out who really did 9/11, it's going to be ugly and the Zionists know that.
Bye bye Mossad.

studiorat

ultain wrote: »

Israel is trying to demonise Hamas..They dont want palestine to have their own state. I think the Jewish race is suffering from a huge collective trauma resulting from events during the second world war.

Hamas don't need Israel's help for that.

On May 16 Hamas police dragged his wife and eight children out of their squat cement house and pummelled him with wooden batons as bulldozers razed the building along with nearly 20 other homes.
"They didn't come here as a government, they came as an enemy power," he said, surrounded by several nodding neighbours who are also camping out at the site, an outcrop of sand dunes on the edge of the town.

And a poll last month by the Jerusalem Media and Communications Centre (JMCC) found that more than 40 percent of Gazans would back the secular Fatah movement if elections were held today, compared to just 16 percent for Hamas.

Joseph Krauss (AFP)

studiorat

TMoreno wrote: »

Those Mossad agents were in New York on 9/11 and they were celebrating the biggest terrorist operation ever pulled off by Israel. They were arrested and quickly deported. Surprise, surprise...
When the American people will find out who really did 9/11, it's going to be ugly and the Zionists know that.
Bye bye Mossad.

But you said they weren't dancing in the streets of Gaza and that was wrong. Looks like you need to check your sources

ultain

A poll by the Jerusalem Media??..most be correct then! Hamas ain't perfect but doing as good job as possible and they also recognise Israel as a state, rocket attacks into israel have dropped hughley due to Hamas. They are willing to talk..like it or not Israel will have to tow the line!

TMoreno

studiorat wrote: »

But you said they weren't dancing in the streets of Gaza and that was wrong. Looks like you need to check your sources

Sorry to destroy your myth but it was a fake:

http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=UjM3Y2drcWuRpWEllX1U&example-of-us-media-brainwashing-you-to-hate-muslims-fake-palestinian-celebration-mediafakery

However the Israeli agents who did 9/11 are real. You even don't try to deny it!
You know Israel did it.

studiorat

TMoreno wrote: »

Sorry to destroy your myth but it was a fake:

http://www.vidoemo.com/yvideo.php?i=UjM3Y2drcWuRpWEllX1U&example-of-us-media-brainwashing-you-to-hate-muslims-fake-palestinian-celebration-mediafakery

However the Israeli agents who did 9/11 are real. You even don't try to deny it!
You know Israel did it.

Ha-ha. Clutching at straws now. They were dancing because they were being given sweets. WTF? You'll believe anything that suits you.

The hipster media has you brainwashed, don't forget to buy a t-shirt and donate. I suppose you're anti-gun control too!

ultain

So tell me studiorat, do you denounce the Israels actions on the boats?

PirateShampoo

ultain wrote: »

So tell me studiorat, do you denounce the Israels actions on the boats?

Why does it matter if he does or doesnt?

There are 2 sides to every story but some people only want to hear the "Jews are Evil" side.

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Why does it matter if he does or doesnt?

There are 2 sides to every story but some people only want to hear the "Jews are Evil" side.

It matters because what happened was wrong..I dont think the Jewish people are "Evil" . Two sides to every story? "We where just floating along in our armored boats, minding our own business..when suddenly they started calling us names!..there was only one thing for it, jump the ships and point our guns at them"

ultain

ultain wrote: »

So tell me studiorat, do you denounce the Israels actions on the boats?

No answer?

Brown Bomber

Israel will use more aggressive force in the future to prevent ships from breaking the sea blockade on the Gaza Strip, a top Navy commander told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday.

"We boarded the ship and were attacked as if it was a war," the officer said. "That will mean that we will have to come prepared in the future as if it was a war."

Greta Berlin of the Free Gaza Movement said earlier Tuesday that a cargo boat was already on the way to challenge Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip.

A second boat carrying about three dozen passengers was expected to join the first, she added.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=177134

Incidentally, the Rachel Corrie is an Irish ship which left from Dundalk on May 10th. It's cargo was personally inspected by Green Party Senator Mark Dearey

On Wednesday, Green Party spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Defence, Senator Mark Dearey, who has personally inspected the cargo onboard the M.V. Rachel Corrie, echoed the Ambassador’s call stating: “Irish passport holders (must) be treated respectfully and be allowed complete their mission. It is the least we should be insisting on, given the gross abuse of Irish passports by Israeli agents in recent times.” Senator Dearey, who has recently replaced Minister Ciarán Cuffe as spokesperson, was referring to Mossad’s use of five bogus Irish passports when a Hamas official was assassinated in Dubai earlier this year.

http://www.freegaza.org/sv/home/press-releases/1170-qtreat-our-passengers-and-cargo-with-respectq-says-senator-mark-dearey

“I inspected the cargo on the quay side in Dundalk and am completely satisfied that it is humanitarian aid only.”

http://www.dundalkexaminer.com/2010/05/31/senator-mark-dearey-goes-soft-on-israeli-terrorism/

PirateShampoo

ultain wrote: »

Two sides to every story? "We where just floating along in our armored boats, minding our own business..when suddenly they started calling us names!..there was only one thing for it, jump the ships and point our guns at them"

Is that a accurate account of the events that took place?

Ironbar

I wonder if all this terrorist paranoia of the israelis was actually injected into the normal US citizens so they would agree with all actions of the israeli government.

It's a bit like looking for the strongest kid in the school yard that can beat up everybody else, giving him sweets and letting him stand by why you **** up the innocent bystander.

Brown Bomber

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Why does it matter if he does or doesnt?

There are 2 sides to every story but some people only want to hear the "Jews are Evil" side.

Don't you think what has happened was evil?

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Is that a accurate account of the events that took place?

ah... yeah:rolleyes:

PirateShampoo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Don't you think what has happened was evil?

No, the Commandos did what any other nations Commandos would of done if they where put in that situation.

I'm not denying that is was the wrong course of action to take, but you cant blame the Commandos.

I would ask you what action you would of taken if you where ordered into that situation but i don't think i would get a honest or realistic answer from you.

PirateShampoo

Ironbar wrote: »

I wonder if all this terrorist paranoia of the israelis was actually injected into the normal US citizens so they would agree with all actions of the israeli government.

It's a bit like looking for the strongest kid in the school yard that can beat up everybody else, giving him sweets and letting him stand by why you **** up the innocent bystander.

Maybe you should live in a town which gets random rockets dropped on it before you call it Paranoia.

PirateShampoo

ultain wrote: »

ah... yeah:rolleyes:

So in ur head what is your version of events?

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

No, the Commandos did what any other nations Commandos would of done if they where put in that situation.

What situation?

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

So in ur head what is your version of events?

The Israels used excessive force

PirateShampoo

ultain wrote: »

What situation?

If you dont know what events took place then why are you even bothering to post?

Brown Bomber

PirateShampoo wrote: »

No, the Commandos did what any other nations Commandos would of done if they where put in that situation.

I'm not denying that is was the wrong course of action to take, but you cant blame the Commandos.

I would ask you what action you would of taken if you where ordered into that situation but i don't think i would get a honest or realistic answer from you.

So cold blooded murder is not evil when Israel does it then? :rolleyes:

Forget the commandos, though everyone one of them that shot an unarmed person is pure scum. The commandos are not important. Who gave the orders to open fire and iilegaly hijack the boat is the true villain.

namloc1980

Israeli forces illegally boarded a ship under a foreign flag in international waters. They have now illegally detained, and brought those on board the ships, to Israel against their will.

Israeli apologists can spout all they want, what the IDF did is indefensible and illegal. Granted, the activists on the ship should not have reacted to the IDF aggression, but the way the IDF attempted to take that ship was at best amateurish and it caused the deaths. These commandos are some of the most highly trained soldiers in the world - they should be trained to take a ship like this without loss of life, instead they dropped one by one onto a part of the ship teeming with activists!! WTF did they expect would happen??

PirateShampoo

ultain wrote: »

The Israels used excessive force

Ok, lets say your a Commando.

Your ordered to take control of a boat.

You absale down to the deck with your team.

As you land me and my 20 mates start trying to cave your face in with metal poles, firing at you with catapults and throw you over board.

What do you do?

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

If you dont know what events took place then why are you even bothering to post?

What situation deemed it necessary for the Israels to board the boats and end up killing at least 10 people.....?

PirateShampoo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

So cold blooded murder is not evil when Israel does it then? :rolleyes:

Forget the commandos, though everyone one of them that shot an unarmed person is pure scum. The commandos are not important. Who gave the orders to open fire and iilegaly hijack the boat is the true villain.

And thats the problem with your posts, your incapable of looking at it from both sides.

PirateShampoo

namloc1980 wrote: »

They have now illegally detained, and brought those on board the ships, to Israel against their will.

Where they not given the choice to be deported or arrested?

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Ok, lets say your a Commando.

Your ordered to take control of a boat.

You absale down to the deck with your team.

As you land me and my 20 mates start trying to cave your face in with metal poles, firing at you with catapults and throw you over board.

What do you do?

Be a little less hostile in your approach...if I saw guys coming at me armed to the teeth..I would defend myself, before getting a bullet up the arse.

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Where they not given the choice to be deported or arrested?

Sure, they would be deported after signing a document saying they had entered Israel waters illegally, when in fact the event took place in international waters.

studiorat

ultain wrote: »

A poll by the Jerusalem Media??..most be correct then! Hamas ain't perfect but doing as good job as possible and they also recognise Israel as a state, rocket attacks into israel have dropped hughley due to Hamas. They are willing to talk..like it or not Israel will have to tow the line!

That's a strange take on it. What's the issue with the JMCC? Not Alternative for you are they? Me thinks you saw Jerusalem and just thought Jew news didn't you?

ultain wrote: »

So tell me studiorat, do you denounce the Israels actions on the boats?

I sense a certain amount of moral posturing in that question too. High Horse much?
I'll save "denouncing" anything for the politicos and the moral majority, neither will I be an apologist for either side.

If I do choose to take an action either way I'll do it where it will be of some use and not on a Conspiracy Theory forum on some poxy internet site.

Brown Bomber

PirateShampoo wrote: »

And thats the problem with your posts, your incapable of looking at it from both sides.

Seriously man that is like saying you need to see it from the rapists perspective, "she was wearing a short skirt judge", shocking.

ultain

studiorat wrote: »

That's a strange take on it. What's the issue with the JMCC? Not Alternative for you are they? Me thinks you saw Jerusalem and just thought Jew news didn't you?



I sense a certain amount of moral posturing in that question too. High Horse much?
I'll save "denouncing" anything for the politicos and the moral majority, neither will I be an apologist for either side.

If I do choose to take an action either way I'll do it where it will be of some use and not on a Conspiracy Theory forum on some poxy internet site.

Conspiracy theory? regard jmcc..Pile of 'save the whales rubbish' didn't you know... the left is the new right.

Brown Bomber

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Where they not given the choice to be deported or arrested?

Arrested for what????


Travelling in a boat?

Israel had not a single right to arrest any of them. Therefore the state-sanctioned murder has led to state-stanctioned kidknap. Michael Martin even called it kidnap.

Look, you seem a little confused as to what has actually happened. This summarises better than I can.
http://www.alternet.org/story/147052/3_facts_you_need_to_know_about_the_israeli_attack_on_peace_activists_on_the_gaza_flotilla?page=entire

studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Seriously man that is like saying you need to see it from the rapists perspective, "she was wearing a short skirt judge", shocking.

Israel/Rapist? Doesn't get more blinkered and one-sided than that does it?

Brown Bomber

studiorat wrote: »

Israel/Rapist? Doesn't get more blinkered and one-sided than that does it?

Rape = Heinous crime

Murder = Heinous crimes.

Both have victims.

What don't you understand? Oh and get off the fence.

PirateShampoo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Seriously man that is like saying you need to see it from the rapists perspective, "she was wearing a short skirt judge", shocking.

So Israelis are now rapists?

Its not just this topic, its every topic you have started. You have no interest in what actual events took place your only interested in the anti Israeli version.

ultain

PirateShampoo wrote: »

So Israelis are now rapists?

Its not just this topic, its every topic you have started. You have no interest in what actual events took place your only interested in the anti Israeli version.

Easy there.. your taking what brown bomber meant a little to literally.

Brown Bomber

PirateShampoo wrote: »

So Israelis are now rapists?

Yes literally Isrealis are rapists :rolleyes: That is exactly what I meant.

Normally in a case of premeditated murder it is quite hard to blame the victim because they are dead. Therefore the comparison of a rapist blaming the victim and Israel blaming the unarmed aid workers fits.

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Its not just this topic, its every topic you have started. You have no interest in what actual events took place your only interested in the anti Israeli version.

1. I tried to share with you what Israel is capable of but you didn't listen, I don't think you ever will.

2. Any other threads I have started have no relation to this thread so lets not take this thread off topic.

3. I had nothing to do with Israeli massacreing 20 unarmed civilians in international waters, they did it themselves. So stop apologising.

Ironbar

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Maybe you should live in a town which gets random rockets dropped on it before you call it Paranoia.

Well, you would be pissed off if the city council would come and say that other people can build their house in your back garden...:rolleyes:

PirateShampoo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

1. I tried to share with you what Israel is capable of but you didn't listen, I don't think you ever will.

No, your posts are 1 sided and biased, you have no interest in alternative view points and dismiss them completely if they clash with your own views.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

2. Any other threads I have started have no relation to this thread so lets not take this thread off topic.

But all your topics have 1 common theme, your hatred for Israel, so i hardly see how its off topic when they are all connected.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

3. I had nothing to do with Israeli massacreing 20 unarmed civilians in international waters, they did it themselves. So stop apologising.

Show me a post where i have apologized, i have even said that they where wrong to board the boat. The only thing I'm trying show in this thread is that the story isn't as 1 sided as you and other claim.

On another note we are pages 10 in and there still hasn't been 1 conspiracy put forward.

namloc1980

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Where they not given the choice to be deported or arrested?

By choosing to be deported they would be acknowledging that they entered Israel illegally.....something that they never did because they were in international waters!

PirateShampoo

Ironbar wrote: »

Well, you would be pissed off if the city council would come and say that other people can build their house in your back garden...:rolleyes:

So that would give me the right to bomb the people living in the house?

studiorat

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Rape = Heinous crime

Murder = Heinous crimes.

Both have victims.

What don't you understand? Oh and get off the fence.

I really don't feel a conspiracy theory forum is a place to discuss such real and dare I say serious issues, too much woo-woo, for a constructive discussion don't you think? Therefore I'll stay on the fence for this one Bomber, at least until I have weighed up ALL the facts, thanks. Sure if I wasn't here, everyone would be agreeing.

Brown Bomber

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Pro-Israelis celebrating the massacre of Turks outside the Turkish embassy. Complete sickness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMzc1N1Cx3s

Students protest in support of IDF



(Video) 'After seeing lecturers at anti-Israel protest, I decided to show we are Zionists,' says Beersheba student Ahiya Raved Published: 06.01.10, 14:45 / Israel News

VIDEO - Hundreds of students protested Tuesday at Israel's universities in identification with the IDF and its raid on ships bound for Gaza. They waved Israeli flags and called out in favor of Navy commando soldiers.
Just a day has gone by since the raid, but hundreds responded to calls to protest outside the gates of Ben Gurion University in Beersheba and the Technion in Haifa.
Students protest in support of IDF

(Video) 'After seeing lecturers at anti-Israel protest, I decided to show we are Zionists,' says Beersheba student Ahiya Raved Published: 06.01.10, 14:45 / Israel News


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Just a day has gone by since the raid, but hundreds responded to calls to protest outside the gates of Ben Gurion University in Beersheba and the Technion in Haifa.


"I expected only about 50 people but many more came," said Avi, a student at Ben Gurion. He asked not to be identified by his full name because "the lecturers at the university are leftists."
Avi said he had organized the protest because "yesterday we felt bad about the protest held by Arab and Bedouin students."
On Monday a small group of leftist demonstrators protested against the IDF at the university. Anat Peretz, a second-year student of Politics and Government said, "After entering the university yesterday I saw some of my lecturers taking part in an anti-Israel rally, and I saw students hang their heads. I decided to show that we are a Zionist campus and spread the word. There have been no curses, racist remarks, or violent acts of any kind."
Ben Gurion's student union asked that protestors keep the peace and maintain an academic atmosphere on campus, and asked both sides to protest democratically.
Meanwhile, at the entrance to the Technion in Haifa more then 300 students participated in a rally supporting the IDF and the state. They waved Israeli flags and held up signs saying, "Justice is with the IDF".

One of the students said the rally was organized at the last minute. "There were a lot of positive responses within a short time. We received support and proved that the Technion and the students are not indifferent," he said.
At Haifa University two opposing groups gathered, one of Arab students supporting the passengers of the flotilla, and the other of Jewish students supporting the IDF and denouncing the Arab protest. Police say officers are providing a barrier between the two groups, and no violent occurrences have been reported.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3897437,00.html

Ironbar

PirateShampoo wrote: »

So that would give me the right to bomb the people living in the house?

Well, which chance do you have when them people have the city council on their side and you're alone because they call you - the owner of the property for the last 1900 years - terrorists and isolate you from the rest of the world ?

Brown Bomber

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10206802.stm

PirateShampoo

Ironbar wrote: »

Well, which chance do you have when them people have the city council on their side and you're alone because they call you - the owner of the property for the last 1900 years - terrorists and isolate you from the rest of the world ?

So now do you see the circle in which both sides rotate in?

PirateShampoo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10206802.stm

More one sided biased reporting. Not 1 of them mentions the assault on the IDF troops only mentioning how brutal they where.