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Israel Kills 10 aid workers
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TalkieWalkie wrote: »I would appreciate if you didn't speak to me like that
I don't think it's boll0x. What is to gain by hating a nation ? We know from history where that gets us, nowhere, fast. Hate creates hate, it creates war, it divides people, it devolves us.
Everyone knows that.
So why jump on the band wagon that you are teased/expected to jump on ?
It's all planned, you are supposed to react with agression. So why go along with it like a puppet ?
I agree that hate gets us nowhere. I can also see that the people involved were above the age of adulthood and so acted on their own will. No amount of ordering should give their actions justification.
The opperation was planned, and consented to.0 -
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Israelis' turn against their own government. This footage was banned in Israel & censored throughout the rest of the world...
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Sarah Colborne, director of campaigns and operations at the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, who was on board the Turkish ship when the Israeli navy mounted a raid early on MondayColborne, 43, from London, insisted the activists on the boat were on a purely humanitarian mission and the passengers were aged between one and 89. She claimed:
• Unarmed activists were shot by Israelis using live ammunition;
• The death toll of nine is likely to rise, because some activists remain missing;
• The Israelis ignored calls over the Tannoy and on written signs calling for them stop firing and to evacuate the critically injured;
• The Israeli forces handcuffed members of the activists' medical team who were sent to help treat the injured.
Colborne said she was positioned on the deck when the assault was at its peak.
"It felt a bit surreal," she said. "I couldn't quite believe they were doing what they were doing.
"There was live ammunition flying around and I could hear the sounds of the bullets flying and the whirr of the helicopter blades as people were dropped down onto the roof. What I saw was guns being used by the Israelis on unarmed civilians. I saw a bullet wound in someone's head. It was very clear it was live ammunition."
She said the activists had set up a makeshift medical centre below deck on the previous evening, after Israeli naval vessels were detected on the ship's radar. They also donned lifejackets and some went to sleep.
"At around 4.10am I woke up, went up to the deck so I could see outside and I saw small dinghies bristling with guns and Israeli military speeding towards the ship," she said.
"Helicopters then appeared and gas and sound bombs were used ... We then had the first passenger fatally injured. He was brought to the back of the deck below. He was shot in the head.
"I saw him. He was in a very bad way and he subsequently died. There were bullets flying all over the place. We asked for the Israelis to stop the attacks. We asked this in English: 'We are not resisting, please help the injured.' Instead of helping the injured the saloon remained surrounded by soldiers targeting individuals with laser sights.
"The captain announced live ammunition was being used, to stop resisting and to go downstairs. At 5.15am we started broadcasting over the Tannoy for help to evacuate the critically injured and for emergency medical assistance. We asked the Israelis to stop the attacks in English."
She said she could "see the red of the laser sights sweeping over people's heads".
"The Israeli military were firing on us," she said. "We had no arms. We made two attempts to get the message across in the written form. We wrote a sign in Hebrew saying 'SOS! Need medical assistance. People are dying. Urgent.'"
After 7am, after the commandos had taken control of the boat, she said they handcuffed everyone using cable ties, confiscated their phones and told them to sit in lines on the deck in the sun for several hours, before being taken into the cabin after some complained of dehydration.
"It was terrifying," she said. "If you talked they pointed a gun at you."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/03/british-survivor-gaza-flotilla
On Thursday, Al Jazeera English broadcast an interview with Jamal Elshayyal, one of the channel’s journalists who was on board the Mavi Marmara on Monday when it was intercepted by Israeli commandos enforcing a naval blockade on Gaza.
In his account of the start of the raid, which left nine activists dead and has sparked calls for an independent investigation, Mr. Elshayyal insisted that the Israelis had fired live ammunition at the ship from the air before commandos landed on the boat and said that he had seen someone shot and killed by a bullet that hit the top of his head. He said, in part:
As soon as this attack started, I was on the top deck and within just a few minutes there were live shots being fired from above the ship, from above, from where the helicopters were. [...]
The first shots that were fired were either some sort of sound grenades, there was some tear gas that was fired as well as rubber-coated bullets. They were fired initially and the live bullets came roughly about five minutes after that.
Asked if the shots fired at the ship by the Israeli forces had seemed to come from ships nearby or the helicopters above, Mr. Elshayyal said:
It was evident there was definitely fire from the air, because one of the people who was killed was clearly shot from above — he was shot, the bullet targeted him at the top of his head. There was also fire coming from the sea as well. Most of the fire initially from the sea was tear gas canisters, sound grenades, but then it became live fire. After I finished filing that last report and I was going down below deck one of the passengers who was on the side of the deck holding a water hose — trying to hose off, if you will, the advancing Israeli navy — was shot in his arm by soldiers in the boats below. [...]
There is no doubt from what I saw that live ammunition was fired before any Israeli soldier was on deck. What I saw, the sequence of events that took place, there was a pool camera, so reporters took it in turns to file, so after I had done my first file, I turned around to see what was going on and there were several shots fired. In fact, one of the helicopters at the front of the ship, you could almost see the soldiers pointing their guns down through some sort of hole or compartment at the bottom side of the helicopter and firing almost indiscriminately without even looking where they were firing. And those bullets were definitely live bullets.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/reporter-disputes-israeli-account-of-raid/On Thursday, Today’s Zaman, an English-language newspaper in Turkey, reported that the president of the Turkish aid group that helped to organize the flotilla said that a photographer working for the group “was shot in the forehead by a soldier one meter away from him.Kevin Ovenden of Britain, an activist on the ship that arrived in İstanbul on Thursday, also said a man who had pointed a camera at the soldiers was shot directly through the forehead with live ammunition, with the exit wound blowing away back of his skull.
And then onto the murdered American born Furkan Dogan who was just 19. :mad:
He too was assasinated. Shot four times in the head and once in the abdomen from close range.The victim was identified as Furkan Dogan, 19, a Turkish-American. A forensic report said he was shot at close range, with four bullets in his head and one in his chest
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/american-killed-gaza-aid-flotilla/story?id=10814848
I make no apologies for being angry. It is sick. How ****in warped do you have to be to shoot someone defenseless in the head?
And just when you think it can't get any worse Israel twist the knife. This is unbelievable
Israeli Commando Who Shot Six Activists in Aid Convoy in Line for Medal
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/04/israeli-commando-shot-activists-aid-convoy-line-medal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fworld+%28Text+-+World%29Six of the nine passengers killed in an Israeli raid on an aid convoy bound for Gaza were shot by a single Israeli commando, who is being considered for a medal of valor for saving his injured comrades as passengers attacked them with clubs, knives and even guns they had taken from downed Navy Seals.0 -
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AlcoholicA wrote: »Israelis' turn against their own government. This footage was banned in Israel & censored throughout the rest of the world...
i don't doubt there is some truth in this and certainly a clear motive
when you say it was banned in israel I'm wondering how does that work though? do you mean it was officially banned, was some law invoked? how was it censored in the rest of the world? was the footage manipulated or they censored by omission as brown bomber put it elsewhere?0 -
i don't doubt there is some truth in this and certainly a clear motive
when you say it was banned in israel I'm wondering how does that work though? do you mean it was officially banned, was some law invoked?
They have an arrangement with the major news stations. This short CBS clip explains the situation quite well.
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CrinkElite wrote: »What a shame those people had to die for nothing, it seems the IDF can do whatever they want without consequence.
I am well and truely sickened.My name is URL wrote: »Could this be the most agreed upon, possibly conspiratorial item that's ever been discussed in this forum?
I truly hope that this tragedy will serve as a wakeup call to people here and around the world of the power of the Zionist lobby in Washington and the media.0 -
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My name is URL wrote: »
Another revolting act by supremacist extremists. Celebrating murder. They are showing their true colours to the world. Zionism is a sickness, there can be no other explanation.
Nothing surprises me anymore.
Another example of Israeli "comedy" The recent Haitian earthquake
Back to the video
Sickness.Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev dismissed the the video link, saying, "The GPO sends out lots of articles. It doesn't mean they like it."
Regev said he first noticed the video on the New York Times website.
"I called my kids in to watch it because I thought it was funny," he said. "It is what Israelis feel. But the government has nothing to do with it. The GPO distributes non-government items, things that we think that show our side of the story."
"self-hating" :rolleyes: Jew Gilad Atzmon calls Israelis a "murderous collective"
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/a-glimpse-into-jewish-collective-morbidity-introduction-by-g.html0 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vvS3HKbLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kqZ-GtNaM8
:D:D
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