Ardiles and Hamann join RTÉ for World Cup

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Argentine World Cup winner Ossie Ardiles, and former German international Dietmar Hamann, have been added to RTÉ's squad of pundits for the 2010 World Cup.

Ardiles and Hamann will join regular RTÉ analysts John Giles, Eamon Dunphy, Graeme Souness, Ronnie Whelan, Richie Sadlier, Liam Brady and Denis Irwin

Not bad additions.

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Kiwi_knock

I will wait to see them in action but at the moment they seem like good additions

Seaneh

The BBC should try get Leonardo again, was very good last time around.

RichTea

Seaneh wrote: »

The BBC should try get Leonardo again, was very good last time around.

BBC have their team announced already.

Their guest pundits are Jürgen Klinsmann, Emmanuel Adebayor and Clarence Seedorf.

Ush1

Hamann is decent but Ardiles isn't great at all. He just talks really fast and says obvious sorta, non-insightful things.

mike65

Hamann can offer protection to Cunningham and Whelan while releasing Giles and Dunphy to strike early.

UrbanSea

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,am I correct in remembering he was even captain for a while?
I like Hamann,I must say BBC have a good line up though.

Bodhisopha

I can't understand a single word Ardiles says.

Reganio 2

He was captain for a year I think greetings. Ardiles is a nice bloke but his English is poor. Hamann's cool though.

TheTosh

I'm looking forward to seeing how Apres match portray them and of course their version of Dunphy

Aidric

greetings wrote: »

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,am I correct in remembering he was even captain for a while?

I don't mind him that much, just needs to work on his breathing.

greetings wrote: »

I must say BBC have a good line up though.

Really. Adebayor?

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Aidric wrote: »

Really. Adebayor?

And he'll be wearing his arsenal top too

Fizman

Aidric wrote: »

I don't mind him that much, just needs to work on his breathing.

His eye brow movement could scare children. His hair too. Apart from that he's grand.

Kingp35

greetings wrote: »

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,

That's a ridiculous comment. Cunningham was very good for us for a long time.

Kess73

Hamann is pretty good. Tends to avoid cliches and offers good insight.

His German tinged with scouse accent always puts a smile on my face, although he has a long way to go to match the way Jan Molby's Danish accent became almost scouse.:D

mike65

Didis growing Scouse acccent (listen out for "doesn't"!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb4WCcVPhMo

Hopefully Richard Sadlier will get a decent amount of time at the expence of the likes of Cunningham

doyler442

greetings wrote: »

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,am I correct in remembering he was even captain for a while?.

I actually quite like Cunningham. I think he does a good job whenever I see him on The Premiership, pointing out some obvious blunders and so on that MOTD never say anything about.

parker kent

Very happy to see Liam Brady and Dennis Irwin's names on the list.

UrbanSea

Aidric wrote: »

I don't mind him that much, just needs to work on his breathing.


Really. Adebayor?

Adebayor will know alot of the players,he's playing at the top of his game and I'm sure he'd know more about the current going ons than alot of the older lads they may have on some of the programmes.

Aidric

greetings wrote: »

Adebayor will know alot of the players,he's playing at the top of his game and I'm sure he'd know more about the current going ons than alot of the older lads they may have on some of the programmes.

I'm sure he does. Articulating his points was more what I was getting at.

MementoMori

Dunphy and Didi on the lash could be legendary;)

I hope they make Ossie sing the Totteningham cup song....or at least roll out the footage.

newballsplease

greetings wrote: »

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,am I correct in remembering he was even captain for a while?
I like Hamann,I must say BBC have a good line up though.

No he wasnt...

Pepe LeFrits

Are we sure Cunningham is in the panel this summer? I haven't seen him mentioned anywhere. If he's not on it, maybe Hamann was chosen to provide the comedy eyebrows quota?

Also, unmentioned but of crucial importance:

At a photocall in RTÉ, Argentinean World Cup winner and Tottenham Hotspur legend Ossie Ardlies, as well as former German international Dietmar (Didi) Hamann, were introduced as part of RTÉ's unrivalled team of soccer panellists for the World Cup.

Joining the team this summer for the first time will be Republic of Ireland international Kilbane and re-joining is favourite Liam Brady.

Mr.Nice Guy

Ossie is tough to make out but Ossie and Bill = win. They could be a sitcom duo. Hamann I think is a very good addition and it's great that Liam and Denis are involved again. Oh and Graeme.

TonyD79

Apres match team will have a field day with these two! As for someone saying Cunningham was one of our worst defenders is beyond belief. I would put him behind the likes of Dunne and way behind the great defenders who played under Jack Charlton but he was world class compared to Breen and McShane!

razorblunt

I would have thought Cunningham would be doing the live co-commentary, was he not doing it for the Confederations Cup? Same with Trevor Stephens.

Aidric

Commentators.

George Hamilton, Ray Houghton, Gabriel Egan, Trevor Steven, Stephen Alkin, Damian Richardson, Adrian Eames and Matt Holland will provide commentary from South Africa along with the legendary Jimmy Magee.

mike65

Jimmy McGee? Thats it.

BBC/ITV even if my ears bleed.

monkey9

I just can't wait for this. Another full month of pure World Cup entertainment from the RTE Panel.

How long into the tournament will it take Dunphy to mention the War to Didi. "I've seen you play the golf and just like Hitler, you always end up in the bunker, baby. Yarrrrrhhh"

Didi: "Vat? Vat is dis you zay? You cannot speak this way, yes? You vud not get away vit dis on the Sky"

Dunphy: "Yarrrrrhhhh, you're not in Kansas anymore, baby! Take it away Bill"



Bill: "So John, do you agree with Ossie??"

Giles "I can't understand a bloody word he's saying Bill. All i can make out is Tottingham. Liam, do you have any idea what the Ardiles lad is saying".

Liam: "I don't care John. Tell Eamon to let me in on his poker games with Didi. He won't lettttt me!!"

Mr.Nice Guy

Jimmy Magee was summed up perfectly on here during Euro 2008 by gogglebok:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56246935&postcount=72

adamski8

so rte say they will show all 64 games live! how will they show games on the same time?

JerryHandbag

I take it Ossie will be covering the likes of Slovenia vs Algeria and Honduras vs Chile alongside Sadlier/Cunningham/Irwin.

Good to know the "holy trinity" of Giles/Eamo/Brady will be back in action.

FatherTed

adamski8 wrote: »

so rte say they will show all 64 games live! how will they show games on the same time?

Isn't there more than one RTE channel?

Mr.Nice Guy

When they are games on at the same time presumably the other game will be available on RTE's website.

Zonda999

To be fair, the commentary on the fairly minor games that Jimmy Magee does is always hilarious, more entertaining than the games themselves a lot of the time!

Degag

I don't mind Jimmy Magee at all! Legend a far as i'm concerned.

FearDark

Degag wrote: »

I don't mind Jimmy Magee at all! Legend a far as i'm concerned.

As long as they keep him away from the telly. Man's useless.

FearDark

Skip in 14 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1319zE0eYs

Nowso

In the cup for totingham ! Lol

dfx-

Zonda999 wrote: »

To be fair, the commentary on the fairly minor games that Jimmy Magee does is always hilarious, more entertaining than the games themselves a lot of the time!

The only time I notice him is when he covers the mind-numbing 0-0/1-0 game at the end of the group stages between two teams who are already out like Cameroon v Uruguay. Especially if like in 2002, it was at 7am..

mike65

Great stuff! Makes more sense than Martin O'Neill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMFF4967XbM

adamski8

FatherTed wrote: »

Isn't there more than one RTE channel?

yeah i was thinking that but non-soccer fans would be mighty peeved at that i would say

8-10

adamski8 wrote: »

yeah i was thinking that but non-soccer fans would be mighty peeved at that i would say

56 lives games to be shown on RTÉ Two, all 64 streamed online on RTÉ.ie

Minstrel27

Ronnie Whelan :mad:

FlawedGenius

How many times a day is apre match on?

RATM

Degag wrote: »

I don't mind Jimmy Magee at all! Legend a far as i'm concerned.

You're right, he is a legend but unfortunately he's a legend who should've retired at least 5 years ago. He's past it, even for sitting in a chair and commentating.

Anyone notice how it now takes Jimmy at least 3 seconds to announce his familiar 'It's a goal'- the ball is usually being picked out of the back by the keeper by the time Jimmy utters the magic words. He's just slowed down considerably over the last few years and its gets annoying to listen to at times tbh.

There must be loads of younger lads who would love a pop at commentating but RTE just won't tell Jimmy to get out the slippers and cigars :rolleyes:

IvySlayer

Who's promoted to the A panel? Giles, Dunphy and Brady hopefully. Or will they go with 4?

B and C panels look rubbish.

Handsome Bob

Hopefully Didi gives Whelan some much deserved abuse.

TheDoc

Didi is a great addition, cant remember where I saw him doing commentary/punditry before, I think it was sky sports, but I remember just listening intently to ever word.

Very insightful into the modern game, doesnt sugar coat bad players/performances and doesnt just give basic analysis that everyone clearly saw during the game, but some really clever stuff that anyone who hasnt played proffesional football just wouldnt get.

I remember him doing a little piece with Andy Gray on midfielders movement as they did post match analysis and I was literally blown away with the stuff I'd literally never though of before.

Was going to avoid RTE as I usually do, might be enough to swing me and the lads to watch the boys.

GymJim

greetings wrote: »

God the sight of Kenny Cunningham really depresses me. One of Ireland's worst ever defenders,am I correct in remembering he was even captain for a while?
I like Hamann,I must say BBC have a good line up though.

What a ridiculous comment. Cunningham was a fantastic player for Ireland. If anything played well above his ability for Ireland.

The Recliner

TheDoc wrote: »

I remember him doing a little piece with Andy Gray on midfielders movement as they did post match analysis and I was literally blown away with the stuff I'd literally never though of before.

The same Andy Gray who after Liverpool won the Champions League when Hamann was being brought on in a PL game that Liverpool were loosing said something like You don't bring on a player like Hamann when you are behind or some such guff

Liverpool duly went on to win the game, Andy had clearly learned nothing from Istanbul

I would like to think that Didi scored the winner in that game but I think that might just be wishful thinking