Hyosung GT250r

scooby girl no1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPCGTCunkk&NR=1

I'm interested in your opinions
I just got the provisional license and had never ride a bike so far

KamiKazi

Mind if I ask what your budget is?

A Ninja 250 would be a much better buy IMO.

scooby girl no1

KamiKazi wrote: »

Mind if I ask what your budget is?

A Ninja 250 would be a much better buy IMO.

it might be a present

cantdecide

You would keep a restricted 600 for much longer.

Would it be new, like?

scooby girl no1

cantdecide wrote: »

You would keep a restricted 600 for much longer.

Would it be new, like?

sorry for asking but
what is restricted 600, or what bikes are under it

KamiKazi

scooby girl no1 wrote: »

sorry for asking but
what is restricted 600, or what bikes are under it

He means a 600cc bike, restricted to 33BHP (same power output as the GT250 and Ninja250).

cantdecide

KamiKazi wrote: »

He means a 600cc bike, restricted to 33BHP (same power output as the GT250 and Ninja250).

You can ride any bike you like on a provisional license (Learner's Permit) as long as you take it to a bike garage and have the engine modified to cut it's power down to 33bhp ("restricted").

I was suggesting that you take a bike like the one below and have it restricted so you could learn on it legally. My point is that you could pass your test on it and potentially keep it for as long as you like instead of getting a lovely new bike today and in the not too distant future, maybe getting bored of it and having to replace it.

scooby girl no1

cantdecide wrote: »

You can ride any bike you like on a provisional license (Learner's Permit) as long as you take it to a bike garage and have the engine modified to cut it's power down to 33bhp ("restricted").

I was suggesting that you take a bike like the one below and have it restricted so you could learn on it legally. My point is that you could pass your test on it and potentially keep it for as long as you like instead of getting a lovely new bike today and in the not too distant future, maybe getting bored of it and having to replace it.

:eek: ooo that's nice, very nice (that was always the one)
Seriously thanks for these explanations
I really didn't know that you can have 600cc (of course with power cut )
well it's not up to me what will I get but things are changing in live so nobody know what will come

cantdecide

This is assuming you are over 18 and have an "A" learner's permit and not "A1" learner's permit?

scooby girl no1

well wish to be 18 again

jameshayes

scooby girl no1 wrote: »

well wish to be 18 again

I dont!!!! my insurance was near 3000 when I was 18! I'm happy being 25 and only paying a few hundred quid!

cantdecide

jameshayes wrote: »

I dont!!!! my insurance was near 3000 when I was 18! I'm happy being 25 and only paying a few hundred quid!

My first cage insurance was almost £4,000. To hell with being 18

Brabazone

None of the insurance companys offering bike insurance in Ireland will insure you on hypersport bikes, ie bikes that end with a "R" CBR GSXR etc,etc, Unless

It is factory restriced or under 400cc.

What you can insure for your first bike is factory restriced GSXRs 600, CBRs 600 but your insurance will be crazy, so not worth the cost for your first bike.

Motorcycles with after market restrictors fitted are not recognized by most of the insurance companys in Ireland.

As for the Hyosung, it depends on whether you are buying new or used, dont touch one any older that 2008 because they can be unreliable, after 2008 Suzuki was the main driving force behind Hyosung and build quality improved. If your like the Hyosung you would be better off buying the gt650r as a factory restricted model, basically the same bike as the 250 but with a clone Suzuki SV 650 engine installed. It is a "R" but only produces 82Bhp unrestricted so insurance companys tend to class them more as a super sport than a hyper sport which makes them easier to insure.

Insurance in Ireland is very complex due to the restriction laws so before you buy anything ring all the insurance company and get quotations. There is a lot of lads round the county buying bikes at the moment thinking that all they need to do is have an after-market restrictor fitted just to be told by the insurance companys that they will not insure them because they do not recognize the restriction. Be carefull:cool:

scooby girl no1

I did, only one wanted to give it to me att all
and they quot me with €1400
I though if I will practice a bit with in a home area and pass the driving test maybe than it would be a little bit cheaper,
but so far I did not get the bike yet and dont know how will this end so I might as well start saving some money:)

cantdecide

You could get some motorcycle training. It would be quicker and lot more useful than teaching yourself on private land. If you learned quickly, you could get a driving assessment that would lower the cost of your insurance, teach you to be a safer rider and teach you almost everything you need to know to pass the driving test. Most trainers have bikes and equipment to give you so all you have to do is show up with your Learner's Permit.

If you are serious about learning to ride bikes, I think that this would be a good first step.

scooby girl no1

cantdecide wrote: »

You could get some motorcycle training. It would be quicker and lot more useful than teaching yourself on private land. If you learned quickly, you could get a driving assessment that would lower the cost of your insurance, teach you to be a safer rider and teach you almost everything you need to know to pass the driving test. Most trainers have bikes and equipment to give you so all you have to do is show up with your Learner's Permit.

If you are serious about learning to ride bikes, I think that this would be a good first step.

is there someone you can recomend?

cantdecide

Depends where you are in the country but someone will know someone wherever you are.

GTRay

if youve only got a provisional licence, you need to do your cbt,

and are restricted to a 125 until you do your test were there a loads ofoptions to confuse you, but worry about that once youve got enough experiance and feel confident on a 125 then look at your options as there forever changing,

and if you do get a 125 may i recomend the hyosung gt125r looks just liek the gt20r, looks like a big bike and feels and rides very comfortably

EvilMonkey

GTRay wrote: »

if youve only got a provisional licence, you need to do your cbt,

and are restricted to a 125 until you do your test were there a loads ofoptions to confuse you, but worry about that once youve got enough experiance and feel confident on a 125 then look at your options as there forever changing,

and if you do get a 125 may i recomend the hyosung gt125r looks just liek the gt20r, looks like a big bike and feels and rides very comfortably

What are you on about? It wouldn't be so confusing if people didn't post uninformed crap

Tigger

soo true

EGOSHEA

GTRay wrote: »

if youve only got a provisional licence, you need to do your cbt,

and are restricted to a 125 until you do your test were there a loads ofoptions to confuse you, but worry about that once youve got enough experiance and feel confident on a 125 then look at your options as there forever changing,

and if you do get a 125 may i recomend the hyosung gt125r looks just liek the gt20r, looks like a big bike and feels and rides very comfortably

The cbt requirement hasn't been brought in yet and you're not restricted to a 125 - you can get unrestricted 250s - and higher (especially among custom-style bikes) - as well as any number of larger displacement options once they're restricted.

galwaytt

scooby girl no1 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxPCGTCunkk&NR=1

I'm interested in your opinions
I just got the provisional license and had never ride a bike so far

.... a guy in Galway just got a shiney 10 G one, and I was talking to him in Salthill about it recently, it looks fab imho. I can't remember the exact price, but 3800 all-in, iirc........bought it on the 'net, from UK, and it was delivered to his door.

robd

EvilMonkey wrote: »

What are you on about? It wouldn't be so confusing if people didn't post uninformed crap

Prob best to give the correct answer. You're restricted to 125cc on an A1 license which you can get at 16. On an A license, which you can get at 18 you are restricted to 25kw of power while on a provisional and for the first 2 years after obtaining a full license.

Full details at http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/travel-and-recreation/motoring-1/driver-licensing/learner_driving_permits_for_motorcycles_in_ireland

Some of bikes (e.g. Ninja 250r) and a lot of cruiser style bikes come with this or below power and do not need to be restricted. Other bigger bikes are sold with a factory restriction. Also a restrictor can be fitted but some insurance companies will not insure these.

If you do your test on a 125 you'll only get an A1 license and thus can't drive A bikes (except on provisional basis).

I've found searching donedeal for "learner" useful. e.g. http://www.donedeal.ie/find/motorbikes/for-sale/Ireland/learner?source=all Also try www.biker.ie

List (little old and incomplete) of <25kw (33hp) bikes here http://www.magireland.org/content/direct-access-33bhp-limit-bike-list

I'm going through the process of learning now.

Cuddlesworth

Lol, posting bad advise four months late.

robd

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Lol, posting bad advise four months late.

Helpful !!!