Soccer Forum Draft Game

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

Fair enough, 20 it is so. Places will go like goldust :pac: I'm happy enough to go along with that but I do think there should be a yellow and red card system for missing goes.

In theory that's fair enough. But what if someone unexpectedly has no internet access. Be it because they had to double shift work or had an emergency or something? You'd be penalising them for something that was completely out of their control.

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

In theory that's fair enough. But what if someone unexpectedly has no internet access. Be it because they had to double shift work or had an emergency or something? You'd be penalising them for something that was completely out of their control.

I'm sure in extreme cases we can make exceptions but there needs to be some sort of ruling on this otherwise we'll be waiting ages in between picks and the whole thing will slow up completely. Maybe a three strike system?

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

I'm sure in extreme cases we can make exceptions but there needs to be some sort of ruling on this otherwise we'll be waiting ages in between picks and the whole thing will slow up completely. Maybe a three strike system?

No, if someone doesn't pick in their 24hr time slot then the game moves on to the next person and it's up to the person who missed their go to make their pick whenever they have, so you'll never be waiting more than 24hrs, except on weekends, it's better off taking a break from Friday-Monday as people often aren't around Saturday and Sunday.

eagle eye

I thinks its either 14 or 15 at the minute. A few posted but didn't say they were in. You want to keep a close eye on it so you can stop people looking to get in after you have enough.

The Volt

Voltwad
Xavi
Bounty Hunter
Archimedes
LuckyLloyd
SlickRic
Mr. Nice Guy
Cypher_Sounds
Iago
Frisbee
Mr. Guappa
Bamboozling
Curry-muff
Mitch Connor
Whatawaster
Titan18
Eagle eye
Minto

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18 so far. Two spaces left.

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

Xavi
Bounty Hunter
Archimedes
LuckyLloyd
SlickRic
Mr. Nice Guy
Cypher_Sounds
Iago
Frisbee
Mr. Guappa
Bamboozling
Curry-muff
Mitch Connor
Whatawaster
Titan18
Eagle eye

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16 so far. 15 if Frisbee wants to run it with me, if he wants to play though it's no worries I'll find someone else.

I'm in for participating. tbh it doesn't take that much effort to run it, the only thing you'll need to do actively yourself is the bonus rounds you were talking about. It would be easy for you to take part yourself also, Lloyd did.

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

I'm in for participating. tbh it doesn't take that much effort to run it, the only thing you'll need to do actively yourself is the bonus rounds you were talking about. It would be easy for you to take part yourself also, Lloyd did.

True. Just don't know if it'd be fair if just I pick the bonus rounds. Perhaps we should decide those now before we start the game. Anyone any suggestions?

Minto

I'll give this a go if there's still space...

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

True. Just don't know if it'd be fair if just I pick the bonus rounds. Perhaps we should decide those now before we start the game. Anyone any suggestions?

Personally I'd suggest leaving out the bonus rounds and have it as a straight draw but it's up to you.

So are we judging a player primarily on his international performances then? But also taking his league performance into account?

For example Navas was great for Sevilla this year, but has made very little international contribution. So where's the yard stick in measuring them if we include both?

Also are we gonna have a minimum caps limit for picking players? e.g. to be picked they have to have made more than ? appearances for their countries senior side?

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

Personally I'd suggest leaving out the bonus rounds and have it as a straight draw but it's up to you.

So are we judging a player primarily on his international performances then? But also taking his league performance into account?

For example Navas was great for Sevilla this year, but has made very little international contribution. So where's the yard stick in measuring them if we include both?

Also are we gonna have a minimum caps limit for picking players? e.g. to be picked they have to have made more than ? appearances for their countries senior side?

Re: Minimum caps, I'd be inclined to lean away from that one.

Also, I think international form should be valued just as much as league form. At the end of the day it's down to the discretion of the voters but I would advise looking for a balance between the two.

Mr. Guappa

Voltwad wrote: »

True. Just don't know if it'd be fair if just I pick the bonus rounds. Perhaps we should decide those now before we start the game. Anyone any suggestions?

Just a couple off the top of my head, nothing groundbreaking!

A non-Premiership Round?
An over 30's or under 21s only round?
World cup debutants only round?
Champions League winners only round?

The Volt

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Just a couple off the top of my head, nothing groundbreaking!

A non-Premiership Round?
An over 30's or under 21s only round?
World cup debutants only round?
Champions League winners only round?

I like the debutants and the age round. Perhaps those two alone would do.

If we for example have round 5 as a WC debutants round and then round 10 as players under 21 or over 30 only

BigBenRoeth

I'm in if there's still room.
No harm in giving it a go

The Volt

One more fellas.

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

One more fellas.

Ok so are you sticking with the original rules then? Or are you gonna let it slide if someone misses a go?

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

Ok so are you sticking with the original rules then? Or are you gonna let it slide if someone misses a go?

We'll let it slide sure. Once we get the final player we can set up a new thread with the game rules, picking order etc in the OP.

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

We'll let it slide sure. Once we get the final player we can set up a new thread with the game rules, picking order etc in the OP.

Fair dues, I'd suggest doing that as a Discussion thread for discussion of picks etc and then have another thread that is only for people's picks so it doesn't all get jumbled up.

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

Fair dues, I'd suggest doing that as a Discussion thread for discussion of picks etc and then have another thread that is only for people's picks so it doesn't all get jumbled up.

Cool.


Last spot open. Any takers?

Mr. Guappa

Voltwad wrote: »

I like the debutants and the age round. Perhaps those two alone would do.

If we for example have round 5 as a WC debutants round and then round 10 as players under 21 or over 30 only

How about rounds 4 & 7 or rounds 5 & 8?

By the time round 10 comes around decent picks could be limited enough even before a further restiction of age, and people picking late in that round could get stuck with some nobody

Bounty Hunter

Frisbee wrote: »

Sure just post them up here when you've got them, then I'll lock the thread up and you can start it proper.

just edit the title and turn this into the discussion thread when it starts proper and a picks thread is started, and edit the rules etc into the OP so that everyone will always be able to find them, thats what i do with such things on PW anyway.

im in for the World cup on too if they is a different group involved in both.

Gillington

Voltwad wrote: »

Cool.


Last spot open. Any takers?

Yeah if its still there?

The Volt

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

How about rounds 4 & 7 or rounds 5 & 8?

By the time round 10 comes around decent picks could be limited enough even before a further restiction of age, and people picking late in that round could get stuck with some nobody

Fair point

The Volt

Gillington wrote: »

Yeah if its still there?

Yeah indeed.


All spots taken!

Xavi6

There should be a 'No one cap wonders' rule.

Minimum ten caps imo to weed out the Geoff Thomas and Paul Butlers (:pac:) of the world.

Gillington

Xavi6 wrote: »

There should be a 'No one cap wonders' rule.

Minimum ten caps imo to weed out the Geoff Thomas and Paul Butlers (:pac:) of the world.

Darn.There goes my hopes of Michael Ricketts leading me to fame and glory

The Volt

Xavi6 wrote: »

There should be a 'No one cap wonders' rule.

Minimum ten caps imo to weed out the Geoff Thomas and Paul Butlers (:pac:) of the world.

I don't know about 10. Maybe 5?

Bounty Hunter

Xavi6 wrote: »

There should be a 'No one cap wonders' rule.

Minimum ten caps imo to weed out the Geoff Thomas and Paul Butlers (:pac:) of the world.

arent these using current squads excluding in potential legends rounds? if they are then a cap rule will limit the really good players we can pick, 1 cap top players people can think of should be rewarded as smart draft picking

Mr. Guappa

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

arent these using current squads excluding in potential legends rounds? if they are then a cap rule will limit the really good players we can pick, 1 cap top players people can think of should be rewarded as smart draft picking

Is it not just limited to the 23 man squads of each country at the World Cup?

The Volt

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

Is it not just limited to the 23 man squads of each country at the World Cup?

Yeah this. Even if someone has only a few caps but they're in the squad, they should eligble IMO

Xavi6

I thought it was anyone who had ever appeared in the WC.

Bit hard with just 32 nations to pick from which includes New Zealand, North Korea etc but fair enough.

Frisbee

Xavi6 wrote: »

I thought it was anyone who had ever appeared in the WC.

Bit hard with just 32 nations to pick from which includes New Zealand, North Korea etc but fair enough.

I was thinking this as well, in total there is 736 players at this years WC and the draft will account for 220 of those. Doable, but towards the later rounds will start to get tough...

Bounty Hunter

Frisbee wrote: »

I was thinking this as well, in total there is 736 players at this years WC and the draft will account for 220 of those. Doable, but towards the later rounds will start to get tough...

then he could throw in the stipulation rounds to keep things interesting:

a round where non world cup players are eligable to be drafted
a round where former world cup players a eligable (legends round)
etc

whatawaster

The legends one would be good. If you had a particular legend in mind you'd have to leave the space on your team for him, so there would be a bit more strategy to it.

JP Liz V1

I'm in or is it too late

Mr.Nice Guy

Xavi6 wrote:

I thought it was anyone who had ever appeared in the WC.

Bit hard with just 32 nations to pick from which includes New Zealand, North Korea etc but fair enough.

That was what my idea was as I figured anyone who had ever taken part over the years would be available. Then we could also go for Irish players, but if people want to stick with just this tournament that could be interesting also. Would be very tough by the latter rounds though. Legends round could spice it up.

The Volt

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm in or is it too late

Sorry Liz, you missed it by one but you're first on the reserve list.

The Volt

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

That was what my idea was as I figured anyone who had ever taken part over the years would be available. Then we could also go for Irish players, but if people want to stick with just this tournament that could be interesting also. Would be very tough by the latter rounds though. Legends round could spice it up.

Legends round will spice it up You'll only have to pick WC squad players for 9/11 rounds.

whatawaster

An Irish internationals round?

The Volt

Boards.ie World Cup Draft

Based on the original Premier League draft idea (credit to Lloyd) and inspired by the Pro Wrestling Draft I give you the Boards.ie World Cup Draft Game. People who are interested would agree to pick footballers from the final squads of the 32 teams that have qualified for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. It would then be at the discretion of each participant to select a formation for their chosen 11.

There will be another draw after each player has picked his XI, putting people against each other in a knockout tournament where players will be required to argue why their team would win. This will be then be put to an open vote, you will be at the discretion of the soccer forum.

There will be 9 normal rounds where you can pick any of the players from the squads announced. Round 4 will be for a non World Cup player only while round 7 will be a legends round where you can pick any of the greats who played at the World Cup and not necessarily for a team that qualified.

When picking, feel free to add in a brief paragraph about the player and what he will add to your team. While this is not required, I would ask that each pick be accompanied by a picture of the player at the very least. If you miss your 24 hour deadline, the next player can go. It will be up to you to make sure you don’t miss this deadline. You can still choose whenever you can but players will be snapped up that you may have had an interest in.

You will be restricted to a maximum of three players from any one nation, akin to the Fantasy Premier League Rules.

With regards to assessing someone else’s team, you should take into account their performance at international level as well as their league form in the run up to the tournament.

Remember to play nice. Chances are everyone will have their preferences taken by somebody else at some point and in circumstances where you think someone has made a weak choice and you feel the want or need to stress it to them, do so with decorum and without resorting to one-line insults.

There may be a temptation to discuss who you chose your pick over but it would be smarter to not mention other available picks as to make sure that everyone is fair game.

Now there are plenty of regular posters here who frequent the forum on a daily basis. If you only log on occasionally and either can't or are unwilling to log on more often that is cool - but you will be likely to miss your turn and hold up the process and might be best to give it a miss.

This is revised. All sound ok?

Peyton Manning

Sounds good to me. Im guessing with such a small pool of players to pick from in comparison to the last draft, there will only be a limited number of players?

Frisbee

Voltwad wrote: »

This is revised. All sound ok?

Sounds good, pop up a Discussion Thread and Picks Only Thread there and I'll lock this one up and we can get started whenever you want.

Bounty Hunter

id say a backup list will be handy here as the soccer forum moves fast and people might miss there turns more than once or twice and be forced to withdraw. I see Liz has already been added to such a list so if anyone else is interested id assume there is a place in the reserves

The Volt

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

id say a backup list will be handy here as the soccer forum moves fast and people might miss there turns more than once or twice and be forced to withdraw. I see Liz has already been added to such a list so if anyone else is interested id assume there is a place in the reserves

Aye well Liz gets first option if someone drops out.

Lock away there Frisbee

Frisbee

Thread Closed for the moment.

Discussion thread on it's way

Xavi6

Just to say, you might want to add to the rules how long you have to post before you get skipped.

It was 12 hours with the Prem one.