Rachel Corrie, Irish ship on Collision Course with Israeli Navy Near Gaza

arybvtcw0eolkf

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

If somebody is collecting it while he is away that is illegal, if nobody is, then it lapses. He doesn't receive it any more. He also has the option of notifying them about this. You don't have all the facts so don't slander somebody when you don't have all the facts.

Just repeating what the lads mum said on national TV thats all.

Cause for investigation I believe.

Wait, wait.... Fiachra, is that you?.

youcrazyjesus!

Deleted User wrote: »

autopsy reports mean nothing
any of those shot in the back were also shot in the front - bodies tumble as the fall, someone lying prone or standing sideways could catch a bullet either side

:rolleyes:

Yeah, some were unlucky enough to catch 5 bullets in the head all form the same direction a foot away. Even when it's as clear as daylight what happened, backed up with medical and eyewitness evidence will people deny it. This was a death squad sent to murder people. They held a gun to a baby's head and threatened to shoot him/her. They are scum who went way way over the top and innocent people were killed. Just accept it.

blubloblu

The crew have suggested allowing a UN inspection of the cargo at sea before going on to Gaza. If the reason for the blockade is to prevent weapons etc. from getting in, shouldn't this resolve the issue. Or is there an other reason for the blockade?

My name is URL

blubloblu wrote: »

The crew have suggested allowing a UN inspection of the cargo at sea before going on to Gaza. If the reason for the blockade is to prevent weapons etc. from getting in, shouldn't this resolve the issue. Or is there an other reason for the blockade?

They want to harbor a siege mentality within the minds of those in Gaza.. they can't do that if the UN are allowed casual access to their operations

youcrazyjesus!

Magnolia Chilly Pinhole wrote: »

Actually Fiachra's mother said he's never sought employment as he was busy with (and getting arrested for damaging a USAC plane) the protests against the US forces using Shannon as a stop over and the Shell to Sea protests.

She also boasted of being arrested at Shannon too.

While I dispute the utility of smashing up a plane at Shannon I'm sure they're decent people who mean well.

They're a burden to the honest tax payer of this country.

Every citizen is whether they work or not. Have you ever used a public hospital? Have you ever claimed tax relief on anything? Have you ever been arrested or put on trial?

youcrazyjesus!

My name is URL wrote: »

They want to harbor a siege mentality within the minds of those in Gaza.. they can't do that if the UN are allowed casual access to their operations

Waffle. The UN will be "allowed casual access" to their operations as soon as they reach Gaza, so you're talking nonsense I'm afraid.

Bulktohulk

Magnolia Chilly Pinhole wrote: »

Being in receipt of job seekers allowance mean's you must be available and actively seeking employment, and while I don't agree to it because it excludes people from doing charity work etc, this waster has made a nuisance of himself to all & sundry from day one it would seem.

His mother is no different, but then - the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Bloody sponger.

If he's on his holiday leave, he'll be getting the money,yes, but anyone on job seekers allowance get's holidays. If he isn't on his holidays, he's not getting money for the time he's out of the country.

Besides, I'd rather a brave lad like this got the cash than Jacinta from bally****hole whose idea of looking for work is going down to the local tesco every two weeks and saying 'do yis have any jobs?'.

youcrazyjesus!

blubloblu wrote: »

The crew have suggested allowing a UN inspection of the cargo at sea before going on to Gaza. If the reason for the blockade is to prevent weapons etc. from getting in, shouldn't this resolve the issue. Or is there an other reason for the blockade?

Israel doesn't want cement and pencils going in. There was a list of items prohibited published on this thread. I challenge anyone to justify it.

Although it's probably a fair point on their part regarding cement, Hezbollah tore Israel a new one after building an extensive tunnel network in Lebanon prior to 2006 and given Israel doesn't like being involved in a fair fight cement has to be stopped.

My name is URL

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

Waffle. The UN will be "allowed casual access" to their operations as soon as they reach Gaza, so you're talking nonsense I'm afraid.

As soon as who reaches Gaza? Israel offered to allow them dock at Ashdod and unload the cargo with 2 activists overseeing it.. not a UN official

arybvtcw0eolkf

blubloblu wrote: »

The crew have suggested allowing a UN inspection of the cargo at sea before going on to Gaza. If the reason for the blockade is to prevent weapons etc. from getting in, shouldn't this resolve the issue. Or is there an other reason for the blockade?

I think a lot of people would like to see the situation resolved to everyone's satisfaction, but the Israeli's simply don't trust the UN.

And while the likes of cement and builting materials might seem innocent enough its a simple mater to turn them against your enemy (Hamas-v-Israel) by using the cement to construct an under ground bunker system like Hezbollah did in South Lebanon or scaffolding pipes, fertilizer & food stuffs to make Al Qassam rockets.

Personally, and speaking from experience I'd love to see the Israeli's place more trust in the UN.

tiocimarla

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

If somebody is collecting it while he is away that is illegal, if nobody is, then it lapses. He doesn't receive it any more. He also has the option of notifying them about this. You don't have all the facts so don't slander somebody when you don't have all the facts.




:rolleyes:.

EH wrong you wanna get your facts right before ye start giving it all that buddy. A dole recipient can take two weeks paid holidays and still recieve u idiot. Also if they miss a payment then they only miss that payment. If they miss a sign on or dont collect there money a few times in a row then it gets cut.
Also for the idiot who says he pays the tax hes entitled to bla bla bla STFU mate. Ive paid taxes for 11 years And a lot at that. Im on the dole now for the last 2 months. Are you entitled to say what I get. Il tell ye ive only got a fraction of the tax I paid back so again shut it.

What you dole haters seem to forget is that people on the dole have paid taxes and are entitled to them. I hope ye loose your job so ye can back up your views and starve to death, Really some people think far to highly of themselves and there opinion.

Now back on topic,Where are we getting feeds for this story from, Anyone got a link

youcrazyjesus!

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Unlike most posting here, Makikomi has military experience.

That is not the be all and end all.

BUT I would certainly accept his take when opposed to the biased armchair terrorists who inhabit these pages.

Seems like some are welfare punters who would be better advised looking for a job and paying taxes to get IRELAND out of a hole.

The only people on this thread I would call armchair terrorists are those rubbing their legs frantically anytime they see some grotesque murders carried out on liveleak. How dare you say that about people? Nobody here has justified terrorism, except for those who support Israel.

How was that post let slide. And stop calling everybody punters, it's extremely irritating.

My name is URL

tiocimarla wrote: »

Now back on topic,Where are we getting feeds for this story from, Anyone got a link

Here's the feed for the latest discussions being picked up by Google.. it's a bit all over the place atm

http://www.google.ie/search?q=rachel+corrie&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=fd&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=nvu&source=lnt&tbs=rltm:1&sa=X&ei=lBMKTLKMGYz-0gTBhcRb&ved=0CAoQpwU

Nick Dolan

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

:rolleyes:

They held a gun to a baby's head and threatened to shoot him/her. They are scum who went way way over the top and innocent people were killed. Just accept it.

Prove it.

Run_to_da_hills

Magnolia Chilly Pinhole wrote: »

I think a lot of people would like to see the situation resolved to everyone's satisfaction, but the Israeli's simply don't trust the UN.

The Israelis wouldn't trust God himself, they already murdered him

LordSutch

After refusing to dock at ASHDOD port, the 'Rachel Corrie has nowbeen boarded by Israeli naval personal ..........

youcrazyjesus!

My name is URL wrote: »

As soon as who reaches Gaza? Israel offered to allow them dock at Ashdod and unload the cargo with 2 activists overseeing it.. not a UN official

The ship has offered inspection of it's cargo by the UN both at sea and in Gaza. I presume also, on some level, the UN operation in Gaza would be involved in the distribution of the goods in Gaza. John Ging, the head of the UN operation there, is a big supporter of this humanitarian aid reaching Gaza and would undoubtedly be at hand to help.

Israel would strip it of everything banned under their list. There's no point in bringing it to Ashdod. This point has been made and refuted 100 times on this thread. Why are people still making it. ISRAEL WOULD STRIP IT OF ANYTHING USEFUL.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Israelis wouldn't trust God himself, they already murdered him

Even with the stickie out tongue emoticon thats beneath contempt and only further fueling religious hatred.

Dodd

Magnolia Chilly Pinhole wrote: »

Actually Fiachra's mother said he's never sought employment as he was busy with (and getting arrested for damaging a USAC plane) the protests against the US forces using Shannon as a stop over and the Shell to Sea protests.

She also boasted of being arrested at Shannon too.

They're a burden to the honest tax payer of this country.

You are way off topic.

lg123

seems like the IDF have boarded her.

youcrazyjesus!

Nick Dolan wrote: »

Prove it.

It has been proved by the eyewitness accounts and medical evidence. I accept the word of people of integrity who were on the ships. The IDF has also murdered Irish UN soldiers and shelled compounds with women and children in the past, found to be a deliberate attack of terrorism. There is no depth to which they won't lower themselves.

My name is URL

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

The ship has offered inspection of it's cargo by the UN both at sea and in Gaza. I presume also, on some level, the UN operation in Gaza would be involved in the distribution of the goods in Gaza. John Ging, the head of the UN operation there, is a big supporter of this humanitarian aid reaching Gaza and would undoubtedly be at hand to help.

Israel would strip it of everything banned under their list. There's no point in bringing it to Ashdod. This point has been made and refuted 100 times on this thread. Why are people still making it. ISRAEL WOULD STRIP IT OF ANYTHING USEFUL.

That's the point I was making. I know the ship made a counter negotiation to have the cargo checked at sea under UN observation rather than at the port in Ashdod, Israel declined

LordSutch

lg123 wrote: »

seems like the IDF have boarded her.

Yep, did that in post#527, but she was asked at least 'three times' not to head for Gaza, but the Corrie refused.

Nick Dolan

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

It has been proved by the eyewitness accounts and medical evidence. I accept the word of people of integrity who were on the ships. The IDF has also murdered Irish UN soldiers and shelled compounds with women and children in the past, found to be a deliberate attack of terrorism. There is no depth to which they won't lower themselves.

your spouting anti semetic rubbish. Is there any pro palestinain posters who dont use wild emotive demonising language?

Bulktohulk

Camelot wrote: »

Yep, did that in post#527, but she was asked at least 'three times' not to head for Gaza, but the Corrie refused.

Of course they refused. They have a mission!

youcrazyjesus!

Nick Dolan wrote: »

your spouting anti semetic rubbish. Is there any pro palestinain posters who dont use wild emotive demonising language?

I'd advise you to withdraw that remark. This is coming from somebody who presumably supports Israel's opinion that it was a "flotilla of hate and violence" that tried to deliver pencils and chocolate to Gaza.

If you want I can provide proof of what I've referenced above. Otherwise, withdraw the remark. The language was far from emotive or demonising.

LordSutch

lg123 wrote: »

seems like the IDF have boarded her.

Yep, did that in post#527. She was sasked three times not to steam towards Gaza but she (the Rachel Corrie) refused :cool:

lg123

Bulktohulk wrote: »

Of course they refused. They have a mission!

fair play. lets hope the idf arnt executing people this time and no one gets hurt

Bulktohulk

Camelot wrote: »

Yep, did that in post#527. She was sasked three times not to steam towards Gaza but she (the Rachel Corrie) refused :cool:

You already wrote that.

youcrazyjesus!

Camelot wrote: »

Yep, did that in post#527, but she was asked at least 'three times' not to head for Gaza, but the Corrie refused.

Why would they agree to go with an Israel port where their cargo would be stripped of anything Israel has banned? Why do people ignore this point time after time after time. Israel bans almost everything that's on the ship. There's no point in docking in an Israeli port. Can some people not just accept this point and stop repeating the same thing over and over again?