World Cup Draft Discussion Thread

Bounty Hunter

Still havent decided if ill shunt Ivanovic out to the RB position (if maybe i see a better CB than RB available) but considering how late i left it to work on my defense im very happy to have two such good defenders infront of Casillas.

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Iker Casillas

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Ivanovic

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Subotic

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Gattuso

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Riquelme

Camronesi

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Bergkamp

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Henry

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Gonzalo Higuain

Peyton Manning

curry-muff wrote: »

Nice solid team so far, but is leaving your lead striker and keeper to the last two rounds a bit risky

Looking forward to see who you produce

Have a keeper in mind alright. As for my striker, I'm just looking for a good finisher. It's a formation that doesn't require much else from my striker - I'll leave the creativity up to Baggio, Robben, Pirlo, Malouda and Affelay

Bounty Hunter

unless Eagle eye makes his next pick in the next few minutes ill have to pm my pick to a proxy, maybe just Bamboozlin as he will be after me anyway, otherwise ill have to go offline as ive to be up for work in the morning in around 5 hours

edit: in this case please include him in your pm once youve gone Archi

edit no.2: ill hang on a few more minutes as he just went (i shouldent but meh )

eagle eye

Picks made pm sent.

curry-muff

I knew you'd pick him Archie :pac:

Peyton Manning

Isla is a very good pick considering its round 10.

Xavi6

Bye bye my pick. Damn you BH

Peyton Manning

Xavi6

There's a touch of Klaas about it alright

Mr.Nice Guy

Isla was on my shortlist. Definite squeaky bum stuff at this stage.

Mr. Guappa

Honda is a great pick at this stage, I had hoped he might slip to me seeing as there are not many of us left needing an Attacking Midfielder, but I had a suspicion that EE might take him.

Edit: My last pick was between Honda, Pienaar and Dempsey.

titan18

bamboozling wrote: »

Was sickened when Titan took my pick, but delighted to have snapped up Pedro. Was going for a defender but I couldn't turn down Pedro when I found him.

And now I'm sickened Damn you

bamboozling

titan18 wrote: »

And now I'm sickened Damn you

swings and roundabouts! Great thing about this game. Happy with Godín had to do a fair amount of headscratching to try and think of a good defender not already picked.

bamboozling

Happy about the shape of my team, would be expecting that when defending Ribery and Pedro would slot back towards the defensive midfielders and leave almost two banks of 4.

The prospect of Eto'o and Ibrahimovic up front is frightening. Ibra gives my team a great outlet and we have great pace on the wings with players who can beat their men.

One of the best young goalkeepers in the world, already a German no1 at 23.

2 quick defenders, one an excellent player on the floor who clears everything the other an immense headerer of the ball but very comfortable on the ball.

Realistically I'd be expecting De Jong to cover Johnson on his forays up the field and to hold station as Matteus bombs forward as he occasionally does. Matteus to dictate the team, the tempo, the rythum and to lead the team.

Now all I need is a consistent, decent left back, not too attacking as I want my team to maintain some shape as Johnson attacks the whole time.

Xavi6

Lloyd, Friedel isn't at the WC.

Howard, Guzan and Hahnemann are the USA keepers.

LuckyLloyd

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Valdes

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Zanetti

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Baresi

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Carvalho

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Mascherano

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Park Ji Sung

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Stankovic


Good luck trying to break us down fellas!!

eagle eye

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

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Friedel

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Zanetti

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Baresi

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Carvalho

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X

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Mascherano

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Park Ji Sung

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Stankovic


Good luck trying to break us down fellas!!

I presume thats meant to be Howard in goals or else you picked two players not in the World Cup.;):D

LuckyLloyd

Fixed.

curry-muff

Picked and pm'd, in a friends house boozing now so ill fix it up tomorrow

BigBenRoeth

Picked Joe Hart and PM sent

Mr.Nice Guy

I don't know if the picks are up to date yet but if not, here are my personal notes of the picks taken which I think are accurate (up as far as BigBenRoeth's recent pick):

1. Necronomicon - Messi, Forlan, Lahm, Keita, Cannavaro, Maxi Rodriguez, Zidane, Marchena, Schwarzer
2. SlickRic - Xavi, Terry, Anelka, Nesta, Krasic, Salcido, Maradona, Gilberto Silva, Cahill
3. Whatawaster - Ronaldo, Gourcuff, Evra, Fletcher, Ozil, Juan, Puskas, Tiago, Yobo
4. Gillington - Villa, D. Alves, Robinho, Ballack, S. Ramos, Heinze, Cruyff, Stekelenburg, Milner
5. Frisbee - Rooney, Pique, D. Silva, Akinfeev, Heitinga, Pele, Van Bronckhorst, Meireles
6. MNG - Drogba, Puyol, Samuel, Arshavin, Lloris, Song, Beckenbauer, Elano, Kolarov
7. Mr. Guappa - Fabregas, Chiellini, A. Cole, Cech, Van Bommel, Van Der Wiel, Eusebio, Bruno Alves, Dempsey
8. Redzerdrog - Torres, Schweinsteiger, Mertesacker, Ronaldinho, Veron, Clichy, Platini, Kuyt, Demichelis
9. Xavi - Lampard, Lucio, Milito, Given, Di Maria, Vidal, P. Maldini, Bradley, Pienaar
10. Voltwad - Iniesta, Yaya Toure, Aguero, Alex, Howard, Gervinho, Shearer, Elia, Skrtel
11. Minto - Van Persie, Buffon, J. Cole, Beckham, Donovan, Zambrotta, Moore, Arbeloa, Diaby
12. BigBenRoeth - Palacios, Vidic, Klose, Modric, Bastos, Sagna, Matthews, Gallas, Barry, Hart
13. Mitch Connor - Sneijder, De Rossi, Di Natale, Scholes, King, Mata, Muller, K. Toure, Criscito, Friedrich
14. Curry-muff - Julio Cesar, Gerrard, Suarez, Ferdinand, Sanchez, Busquets, Van Basten, Carragher, Melo, Kalou
15. LuckyLloyd - Kaka, Mascherano, Carvalho, Zanetti, Stankovic, Park Ji-Sung, Baresi, Frei, Simao, Valdes
16. Titan18 - Fabiano, Maicon, Hamsik, Dzeko, Capdevila, Toulalan, Garrincha, Lugano, Coentrao, Handanovic
17. Bamboozling - Eto'o, Ribery, Pepe, Ibrahimovic, Johnson, De Jong, Matthaus, Neuer, Pedro, Godin
18. Bounty Hunter - Casillas, Higuain, Gattuso, Riquelme, Ivanovic, Henry, Bergkamp, Camoranesi, Subotic, Mathijsen
19. Archimedes - Robben, Pirlo, Malouda, Essien, Agger, Kjaer, R. Baggio, Marquez, Affelay, Huntelaar
20. Eagle eye - Alonso, Tevez, Reina, Cambiasso, Podolski, Abidal, Romario, da Silva, Honda, Isla

BigBenRoeth

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I don't know if the picks are up to date yet but if not, here are my personal notes of the picks taken which I think are accurate (up as far as BigBenRoeth's recent pick):

Hero.

curry-muff

19 picks in one day, hats off lads

Mr. Guappa

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Hang on, I'll revive it for Friday.

For feck's sake, chaps. We've ground to a halt!

Thank this man!

redzerdrog

ok there is 3 picks to go before me but i wont be on untill 2morro evenin at the earliest so anyone want to take my pick of me?

redzerdrog

Mr. Guappa is due to pick after me so i will pm him my pick now as i have to go

Mr. Guappa

redzerdrog wrote: »

Mr. Guappa is due to pick after me so i will pm him my pick now as i have to go

PM Received

Minto

Sorry about holding things up, having a mental day today! Made my pick and PM'd!

BigBenRoeth

Minto wrote: »

Sorry about holding things up, having a mental day today! Made my pick and PM'd!

Michael Dawson is a brilliant pick at this point in the game.
When I was picking it was between Gallas and Dawson.

titan18

Dawson is a shocking pick imo.I like him as a player but this is a WC draft,not a Premiership draft, his lack of international caps means he's a poor pick

Necronomicon

I've noticed a few players being picked up that are good ability-wise but don't have many caps to their name at all, which effectively makes them poor choices going by the draft rules.

Mr. Guappa

We are only allowed 3 players per country.. by my count Dawson is the 4th English player on Mintos team, along with Beckham, Joe Cole and Bobby Moore.

Peyton Manning

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

We are only allowed 3 players per country.. by my count Dawson is the 4th English player on Mintos team, along with Beckham, Joe Cole and Bobby Moore.

Well spotted, I must have overlooked that rule!

Mitch Connor

Archimedes wrote: »

Well spotted, I must have overlooked that rule!

i had NO idea about that rule.

curry-muff

Good job someone mentioned that, im on 3 england players too, so what happens, is he allowed to change his pick or will he have to swap one of his england players out with someone?

Peyton Manning

He'll have to change his last pick I reckon.

The Volt

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i had NO idea about that rule.

It's in the OP

BigBenRoeth

Voltwad wrote: »

It's in the OP

Which was probably branded as a tl;dr by most :pac:

Minto

I'll change the pick in a few minutes. I was thinking it might be an issue, but assumed that since Beckham and Moore were picked in special rounds that they didn't count.

LuckyLloyd

Necronomicon wrote: »

I've noticed a few players being picked up that are good ability-wise but don't have many caps to their name at all, which effectively makes them poor choices going by the draft rules.

Yep! New / young players really aren't that valuable in this format. Average caps per player will be an important factor to weigh up at the end when assessing which teams are better.

eagle eye

I don't think caps are a major issue unless you are talking about low single figures.

redzerdrog

international experience and form will count for a lot. it shouldnt really count too much against a young player only making the breakthrough but if the player is older but just never made the breakthrough at international level it should count against them imo

Mr.Nice Guy

redzerdrog wrote:

international experience and form will count for a lot.

Can't those be a bit of a contradiction though? Not going to single any players out but there are some who have tremendous experience yet haven't done it of late, so what counts more?

Also, if this is going to be forum-wide are those voting on it going to take the time to take these things into consideration I wonder?

Might be worth sorting this out before the Draft phase ends and the next one begins.

redzerdrog

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Can't those be a bit of a contradiction though? Not going to single any players out but there are some who have tremendous experience yet haven't done it of late, so what counts more?

Also, if this is going to be forum-wide are those voting on it going to take the time to take these things into consideration I wonder?

Might be worth sorting this out before the Draft phase ends and the next one begins.

My answer to that is i dont really know but I know ronaldo has great international experience but not current form and wasnt considered good enough for the legends round so that should tell us something.

eagle eye

redzerdrog wrote: »

My answer to that is i dont really know but I know ronaldo has great international experience but not current form and wasnt considered good enough for the legends round so that should tell us something.

He was picked before the legends round, otherwise he would have went in the top 4. He was picked in the 'not at the World Cup' round.

Necronomicon

Ronaldo wasn't picked was he?

He wasn't eligable for Round 7 anyway, he's still playing football.

Frisbee

Necronomicon wrote: »

Ronaldo wasn't picked was he?

He wasn't eligable for Round 7 anyway, he's still playing football.

Yup, Round 4 is the only round he was eligible for.

redzerdrog

sorry i ment round 4 he wasnt considered good enough to go in round 4

titan18

Well,I don't think international caps should matter really, as there are a few players who are breaking through now, or in the last 1 or 2 years who are performing very well.Guys like Ozil,Kjaer,Coentrao who have performed very well in the WC but wouldn't have too much caps.Plenty of other examples too.There are plenty of guys too who perform poorly at international level but are good at club level, and vice-versa.

Imo,we should vote on international form and the level they have performed at internationally over the qualification for the WC, along with club form in 2010.Not voting on potential to play very well based on performances a few years ago, or the talent the player has.

Also,I think only the 20 who participated should be allowed to vote and not the forum.There are a few others who have clearly followed this through by posting in this thread a few times etc, and we know who they are who could be allowed vote.I don't think it should be opened up to people who have clearly never watched anything other than the Premier League and CL.

Frisbee

redzerdrog wrote: »

sorry i ment round 4 he wasnt considered good enough to go in round 4

Yeah because he's no longer at the top of his game. He's still a decent striker by all means and will do a job, but he's a shadow of the player who had defenders the world over shítting themselves knowing they had to face him soon. Without a doubt the best striker I've ever seen play and I was sorely tempted to get him in round 4 for purely sentimental reasons.