World Cup Draft Discussion Thread

titan18

eagle eye wrote: »

I honestly am stunned I lost my match. I honestly think that I would hockey his team everytime we played.

Anyways best of luck Redzerdog.

I don't really know how to vote from here on in. Should I vote how I feel things would go? Or should I change and not respect good defensive units anymore?

I'm pretty much the same with my match against Voltwad.My team isn't the best in the competition,but I really think I'd beat Voltwad.

But anyways,good luck to Voltwad and the others for the rest of the competition.

The Volt

titan18 wrote: »

I'm pretty much the same with my match against Voltwad.My team isn't the best in the competition,but I really think I'd beat Voltwad.

But anyways,good luck to Voltwad and the others for the rest of the competition.

Everyone's gonna feel the same to an extent, but it was the closest match yet with just a single vote in it. And in circumstances where not everyone voted, you were unlucky

redzerdrog

eagle eye wrote: »

I honestly am stunned I lost my match. I honestly think that I would hockey his team everytime we played.

Anyways best of luck Redzerdog.

I don't really know how to vote from here on in. Should I vote how I feel things would go? Or should I change and not respect good defensive units anymore?

LOL I am very suprised it was so close to be honest when I saw the 1st round draw i taught it was a handy one that i would easily win.

you are way over rating your whole defence by the way. paolo da silva is 30 year old journeyman defender and very very average and not even guaranteed a place for sunderland. Alcaraz is a 28 year old journeyman that played last year in the belgian league and has a grand total of 10 international caps.

1996–1997 Atlántida 2
1997–1998 Cerro Porteño
1998–1999 Perugia
1999–2000 Lanús
2000–2001 Venezia
2001 Cosenza
2002–2003 Libertad
2003–2009 Toluca

these are the clubs that paolo da silva played for before making 12 appearances for sunderland last year.

eagle eye

redzerdrog wrote: »

LOL I am very suprised it was so close to be honest when I saw the 1st round draw i taught it was a handy one that i would easily win.

you are way over rating your whole defence by the way. paolo da silva is 30 year old journeyman defender and very very average and not even guaranteed a place for sunderland. Alcaraz is a 28 year old journeyman that played last year in the belgian league and has a grand total of 10 international caps.

1996–1997 Atlántida 2
1997–1998 Cerro Porteño
1998–1999 Perugia
1999–2000 Lanús
2000–2001 Venezia
2001 Cosenza
2002–2003 Libertad
2003–2009 Toluca

these are the clubs that paolo da silva played for before making 12 appearances for sunderland last year.

I wasn't asking to continue the debate but I was the only one in the whole draft with a CB pairing thats proven to work together. And they were both incredible in the World Cup.
Anyways your team has a glaring hole in midfield but this wasn't noted by some people. You don't have a defensive midfielder and no matter what way you try to dress Schweinsteiger up he will never be a defensive midfielder. You also have Veron who is 35 years old and played one good game in the World Cup. His form this season for Estudiantes has been nowhere near the form he showed in Europe or indeed the two previous seasons in Argentina. Whats quite evident is that you have three players in your midfield who like to take up the same area on the pitch which is just beyond the centre circle. So they gonna have problems as they all want that spot.
Furthermore my defensive midfield is one of the best in the draft. All Alonso and Cambiasso have to do is sit back and spray the ball from deep.

Anyways its over and done, I said good luck to you in the next round so lets move on.

redzerdrog

veron won south american player of the year for the past 2 years and has been playing the best football of his life over the past few years.

anyway its over with now, hard luck in the match and i look forward to your continued input in this thread

eagle eye

redzerdrog wrote: »

veron won south american player of the year for the past 2 years and has been playing the best football of his life over the past few years.

anyway its over with now, hard luck in the match and i look forward to your continued input in this thread

He won it two years running but this year his form in the Copa Libertadores has not been near what he did in the previous two years.

BigBenRoeth

eagle eye wrote: »

I wasn't asking to continue the debate but I was the only one in the whole draft with a CB pairing thats proven to work together. And they were both incredible in the World Cup.
Anyways your team has a glaring hole in midfield but this wasn't noted by some people. You don't have a defensive midfielder and no matter what way you try to dress Schweinsteiger up he will never be a defensive midfielder. You also have Veron who is 35 years old and played one good game in the World Cup. His form this season for Estudiantes has been nowhere near the form he showed in Europe or indeed the two previous seasons in Argentina. Whats quite evident is that you have three players in your midfield who like to take up the same area on the pitch which is just beyond the centre circle. So they gonna have problems as they all want that spot.
Furthermore my defensive midfield is one of the best in the draft. All Alonso and Cambiasso have to do is sit back and spray the ball from deep.

Anyways its over and done, I said good luck to you in the next round so lets move on.

It's a fantasy draft though,no one expects any part of any team to be proven to work together

SlickRic

sorry redzer, but your win over eagle eye was the surprise of the draft so far for me.

that midfield would get dominated by Cambiasso and Alonso; and that would be the be all, end all for me.

you won, IMO, because of the names in your attack; Ronaldinho, Torres, Platini, and probably to a lesser extent, Kuyt.

but good luck for the rest of it, you obviously have an attack that will be difficult to stop; and you must be commended for that.

T-b0n3

Sorry I've been busy working and stuff in the last few days and missed a few votes. I should be around for a while now so I'll make sure to have more of an input etc.

Well done to those who got through.

The Volt

Looks like BH is set to miss his game. If there's no word by tomorrow I'll have no choice but to award the walkover to Necromonicon.

Bounty Hunter

Voltwad wrote: »

Looks like BH is set to miss his game. If there's no word by tomorrow I'll have no choice but to award the walkover to Necromonicon.

where is it? i just did a search and i cant find the thread. Sorry to have held this up but i did say i was looking for someone to step in for me if i wasnt back and wouldent be online, kinda suerprised on of the folk that offered to take mintos team didnt step in. If Necro gets a bye im okay with that

Frisbee

Hey lads I was away on holidays all last week and had no net access so couldn't vote. Couple of results there that have really suprised me.

The Volt

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

where is it? i just did a search and i cant find the thread. Sorry to have held this up but i did say i was looking for someone to step in for me if i wasnt back and wouldent be online, kinda suerprised on of the folk that offered to take mintos team didnt step in. If Necro gets a bye im okay with that

Are you okay to go ahead with your match today then?

Bounty Hunter

Voltwad wrote: »

Are you okay to go ahead with your match today then?

just posted my rebuttle there, took a lot longer than id expected. Drawing No.1 wasnt ideal but being able to build a team to be able to contain a Messi, Zidane and Forlan has to be the aim of the game... wonder have i done that?

The Volt

Match 11 - Mr. Guappa vs curry-muff

Match 12 - Necronomicon vs Voltwad

Match 13 - Mr. Nice Guy vs bamboozling (WED)

Match 14 - Frisbee vs LuckyLloyd (WED)

Match 15 - Xavi6 vs Redzerdrog (THURS)

curry-muff

5 votes against me before I even posted up my response, cheers lads :rolleyes:

Necronomicon

curry-muff wrote: »

5 votes against me before I even posted up my response, cheers lads :rolleyes:

Fair point, and I've been waiting for your post before voting.

It's something that might need to be addressed, I think people should only vote when they read each opponent's take on the match. Maybe for future rounds we could make it so the poll isn't added to the thread until each opponent has posted once.

Mr.Nice Guy

Necronomicon wrote: »

Fair point, and I've been waiting for your post before voting.

It's something that might need to be addressed, I think people should only vote when they read each opponent's take on the match. Maybe for future rounds we could make it so the poll isn't added to the thread until each opponent has posted once.

I think that's a good idea.

T-b0n3

Necronomicon wrote: »

Fair point, and I've been waiting for your post before voting.

It's something that might need to be addressed, I think people should only vote when they read each opponent's take on the match. Maybe for future rounds we could make it so the poll isn't added to the thread until each opponent has posted once.

Yea I waited before voting. Figured it was only fair tbh.

Gillington

Yeah I prefer to wait for both sides of the match before voting.In my mach against MNG he had his up at night time and I wasnt in any humour to do a write-up after training but knew I woulda lost votes if I didnt.

The Volt

Bomboozling has requested that his match be put back until tomorrow. Hope that's okay. I'll throw up Frisbees now

Frisbee

Voltwad you didn't make the poll for the Xavi/redzer match up public. And I can't change it.

redzerdrog

is there any way to fix the poll in myself and xavis match thread. will voltwad be able to fix it so we can all see the result or will voltwad even be able to see who voted himself??

The Volt

Shít sorry lads

Frisbee

There's no way of changing it unfortunately. Only way to get a public poll is to do up another thread.

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

There's no way of changing it unfortunately. Only way to get a public poll is to do up another thread.

I'm typing back on my phone here and it's dead slow. I don't suppose someone else would mind doing it for me?

Mr.Nice Guy

I don't mind doing it. I'll copy the posts of the lads to save them having to do it when they come on, and then the other thread can be deleted.

Mr.Nice Guy

OK I've copied the posts from the previous thread. If Frisbee or another mod wants to delete the first thread they can as I believe it's as it should be now.

redzerdrog

so from going 11 - 4 up it is now 5 - 5 thats just great!

Frisbee

redzerdrog wrote: »

so from going 11 - 4 up it is now 5 - 5 thats just great!

There was noting else to be done for it. Maybe PM everyone who is involved in the voting to inform them that they need to vote on your thread again?

And I'm sure Voltwad will leave it open for another few days.

curry-muff

redzerdrog wrote: »

so from going 11 - 4 up it is now 5 - 5 thats just great!

I was 5-0 down on the voting before I had even post in my match :mad:

Once I made my post it went to like 5-4, before I lost out eventually, I was really disappointed about that too

Relating to the match, apart from an excellent cb pairing xavis team is pretty average (sorry).

Redzer should take this one

redzerdrog

so whats the story i take it i won my match?

when is the next round taking place?

The Volt

I'll get the next round started tomorrow lads.

bamboozling

Sorry I took so long guys, I was away from the laptop all weekend and yesterday. My post is up now. It'll probably be up to Frisbee or one of the mods to put up the poll now.

T-b0n3

Finding it really difficult to pick between bamboozling and MNG. One of the toughest matches to call!

redzerdrog

just out of interest why was frisbee awarded a walkover when lloyd didnt post but MNG wasnt when bamboozling didnt post?

The Volt

redzerdrog wrote: »

just out of interest why was frisbee awarded a walkover when lloyd didnt post but MNG wasnt when bamboozling didnt post?

bamboozling mailed me requesting extra time saying that he would be unavailable. I've no problem postponing games if there's communication

The Volt

RD. 2 results

Match 11 - Mr. Guappa vs curry-muff

Match 12 - Necronomicon vs Voltwad

Match 13 - Mr. Nice Guy vs bamboozling

Match 14 - Frisbee vs LuckyLloyd

Match 15 - Xavi6 vs Redzerdrog

RD. 3

One teams gets a bye : Necronomicon

Match 16 - Redzerdrog vs Frisbee

Match 17 - Mr. Guappa vs bamboozling

Round 4

bye : Winner of Match 17

Match 18 - Winner of Match 16 vs Winner of Match 12

Final

Match 19 - Winner of Match 18 vs Winner of Match 17

Mr.Nice Guy

Isn't my match thread still going:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055981287



If not, congrats bamboozling.

The Volt

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Isn't my match thread still going:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055981287



If not, congrats bamboozling.

It had been open a couple of days man

T-b0n3

Voltwad wrote: »

It had been open a couple of days man

It says "This poll will close on 30-07-2010 at 09:09"

It probably has been up for much longer than is was supposed to be though. I dunno.

Frisbee

I only put it up there on Wednesday because there was a problem with the first poll Voltwad put up not being public.

I reckon it's only fair to let it run it's course tbf, especially considering there is only one vote in it.

The Volt

Frisbee wrote: »

I only put it up there on Wednesday because there was a problem with the first poll Voltwad put up not being public.

I reckon it's only fair to let it run it's course tbf, especially considering there is only one vote in it.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055981287

There's been as many votes on this one as there has been on the other match threads but if people want to let it remain open for another day then so be it.

Mr.Nice Guy

I'll be honest Voltwad I'm disappointed you're making it out like what I'm asking for is unreasonable. If you want to write off the contest that's your call. I realise he has edged me out in the participants vote so far.

I just think it's a pity how the result has been reached considering he had originally asked the match to be delayed and I was OK with that, and when it did start he then took several days to reply and in order to prevent myself getting a bye, I PM'd him to remind him of our match (the chap himself will tell you this).

I feel I've been very reasonable in trying to ensure the contest went fairly and smoothly and it seems I shouldn't have wasted my time.

The Volt

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I'll be honest Voltwad I'm disappointed you're making it out like what I'm asking for is unreasonable. If you want to write off the contest that's your call. I realise he has edged me out in the participants vote so far.

I just think it's a pity how the result has been reached considering he had originally asked the match to be delayed and I was OK with that, and when it did start he then took several days to reply and in order to prevent myself getting a bye, I PM'd him to remind him of our match (the chap himself will tell you this).

I feel I've been very reasonable in trying to ensure the contest went fairly and smoothly and it seems I shouldn't have wasted my time.

Sorry for the cynicism MNG it just seems I can do no right with this thing. I get flamed every time I make a new thread, people moan at nearly every turn whether it be about a delay or not having enough people voting it's taken a lot of the fun out of it for me. Honestly I've problem with leaving it open another day or two

T-b0n3

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I realise he has edged me out in the participants vote so far.

What score is it at the moment? I just voted for you there. All I can see is 9-7 to you. Can't see who voted etc so don't know which votes to discredit.

Mr.Nice Guy

From my perspective, I feel if there was a problem with the date of the poll this should have been made clear right from the beginning. I was under the impression that yourself and Frisbee had decided to keep it open for an extra few days which is why the announcement of bamboozling's advancement seemed so abrupt and surprising to me.

I don't want there to be a controversy over the decision as it wouldn't be fair on either of us so just regard the contest as finished with. As I say I just wish things had been made clear at the beginning that the end date on the poll was inaccurate if you had felt this was the case.

Congratulations to bamboozling. I felt that would be a tight match and so it proved.

T-b0n3 wrote: »

What score is it at the moment? I just voted for you there. All I can see is 9-7 to you. Can't see who voted etc so don't know which votes to discredit.

I think he's one or two in front at the moment.

The Volt

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

From my perspective, I feel if there was a problem with the date of the poll this should have been made clear right from the beginning. I was under the impression that yourself and Frisbee had decided to keep it open for an extra few days which is why the announcement of bamboozling's advancement seemed so abrupt and surprising to me.

I don't want there to be a controversy over the decision as it wouldn't be fair on either of us so just regard the contest as finished with. As I say I just wish things had been made clear at the beginning that the end date on the poll was inaccurate if you had felt this was the case.

Congratulations to bamboozling. I felt that would be a tight match and so it proved.



I think he's one or two in front at the moment.

Every match so far has had a time limit of a day regarding votes. I had no problem giving your match a little bit of leeway though given that bamboozling had been given an extra few days. I don't see the point in giving it any longer now as I don't see it having any bearing on the result

Frisbee

I just left the poll open for a day longer than usual because after the delay and the problems with the first thread it seemed only fair to let people see it again.

bamboozling

I just want to apoligise as I'm to blame for a certain amount of this. I did take quite a while to reply after Mr Nice Guy made his initial post and I've apologised for this.

I would like to thank Voltwad for being very flexible as I asked for the match to be postponed.

I would also like to thank Mr Nice Guy as he did PM me as he said, and was also very understanding as he waited for me to reply. He could easily have kicked up a stink and asked for a bye but instead he was very fair and I applaud him for it.

Finally I would like to thank Voltwad for organising this whole competition. I know that there has been a bit of hassle and look you're never going to please everyone but I for one, and I'm sure many others, appreciate the time you have invested in this and I have really enjoyed this it's been great craic.

There is only a vote or two between m so leave me and Mr. Nice Guy so i say leave it up till the mornin as 2 votes could change the outcome of the game. My two cents anyway guys.