Vuvuzela - will you be able to stand them

newballsplease

The vuvuzela is a part of the African football culture, as much as drinking alcohol is over here and the UK.
As much as I cant stand it, we just have to accept it.

newballsplease

newballsplease wrote: »

The vuvuzela is a part of the African football culture, as much as drinking alcohol is over here and the UK.
As much as I cant stand it, we just have to accept it.

as i stated similar earlier, i think the sound of a man slurping his pint IS NOT the same as the sound of a few thousand vuvuzelas blowing at once

newballsplease

Deleted User wrote: »

as i stated similar earlier, i think the sound of a man slurping his pint IS NOT the same as the sound of a few thousand vuvuzelas blowing at once

No its not the same. I didnt say it was. But its part of the 'culture' of watching a game here.

Then again, Id nearly rather listen to a vuvuzela, then a pi55ed up 19 year throwing shapes around the place!

TouchingVirus

I know what Maradonna uses them for...

newballsplease

newballsplease wrote: »

Then again, Id nearly rather listen to a vuvuzela, then a pi55ed up 19 year throwing shapes around the place!

also very true. the maradona pic is absolutely brilliant

redout

Boring Boring World Cup!

What a huge yawn the tournament has been so far! A festival of football? No, more a tedious and pointless drone, like those hideous vuvezelas! Thus far, only the Germans have turned on the style and they were playing against such a poor Australian team that anything less than a 3-0 victory would have been embarrassing, especially after Cahill was sent off. Slovakia got their just deserts today, as did England at the weekend. If you sit on a single goal lead, you don't deserve to win!

Contrast this World Cup with the last Euros. There were goals galore in the Euros with teams intent on outscoring each other to win games. But at this World Cup, it has all been about stopping the opposition from playing, all about avoiding defeat. The vuvezela players have got exactly what they deserve: monotonous, tedious, boring football.

Why is this happening? Well there are too many rubbish teams taking part. It is frankly absurd that Australia and North Korea are here, whilst Russia and Croatia are at home. The World Cup should be about pitting the best nations against each other, not an ethnic balance. Let the lesser nations play for the right to take on Russia in a playoff final by all means, but don't let them sit at the top table by default, qualifying because they are the best of a weak bunch in their part of the world.

The vuvezela must also be playing a part. If the players can't hear the fans, how can they ride the wave of passionate support that normally drives teams on? The decision of FIFA not to ban the blasted things is pathetic. If this is South African "culture", then God help South Africa. The world is being given the impression that the average South African is little better than a cave man!

We have been embarrassed by our fans in the past - mindless Neanderthal thugs - but we have never "celebrated" them and revelled in their "cultural significance". Somebody should be brave enough to say that these things are a bloody nuisance and are making South Africans look primitive and stupid! Yes the World Cup is in South Africa but South Africa is not the World Cup. I want to hear the Brazilians, the Dutch, the Germans, the Ghanaians and yes, the English fans. The World Cup is about mixing cultures, not one "culture" drowning out everybody else. Of course, nobody is going to be brave enough to say this because this is Africa, and it is politically incorrect to criticise anything African.

At the moment FIFA and South Africa are getting what they deserve. The droning vuvezela World Cup is a huge turn off.

Totally agree with this. My feelings exactly.

Link

DirkVoodoo

Some FIFA bans:

South American player's nicknames (part of their culture, not money making though)

A South African Airline advertising themselves as "unofficial carrier of the you-know-what", violation of trademark laws, boo-hoo.

Iranian "hijab" for women (not money making I guess, but still cultural).

Shirtless goal celebration or "over enthusiastic celebration", part of my footballing cultural history, seeing players get emotional after scoring a goal.

I seem to remember there was talk of banning flags bearing advertising of local pubs, etc. at the 2002 world cup? Might not be totally correct though.

What about football hooliganism? It's also anti-social, makes for unpleasant viewing and has been very much apart of world football. Should this be allowed on cultural grounds?

Please, the culture argument is ridiculous, SA are hosting the WORLD cup. As much as we should respect their match traditions, the fans in the stadiums should show a bit of restraint and respect for the millions watching and cheering on their national teams. Why not blow the horns before the match, during goals, half time, etc. Why oh why must the rest of the world be subjected to 90 minutes of droning?

@newballsplease: said 19 year old would either pass out or be chucked out, I doubt he could do it for 90 minutes and I doubt he would gain the attention of millions of people worldwide unless he streaked across the pitch!

newballsplease

Just to make it clear.... Im not supporting the fecking things!! I hate the horns!


- That maradona pic is a potential post of the day!

mike65

BBC says we have the technology

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5imEVGBfXRjRKpgV_6vZOpUL3Pi1g

The BBC is considering whether to broadcast a "vuvuzela-free" version of its World Cup coverage following complaints about the noise from the plastic horn.

The Corporation is investigating several options, including stripping out most sound except commentary when showing the games on its red button digital service.

Complaints about the incessant buzzing noise doubled to 545 to the BBC by Tuesday morning.

A BBC spokeswoman said: "Using the red button service is only one of the options that we're considering. A decision will be made later in the week."

The broadcaster has already muted the feed which picks up crowd noise at the matches because of the horns but it has no plans to remove the sound of the vuvuzelas from matches broadcast on BBC1 and BBC2.

Supermarkets in Britain have reported a surge in sales of the instruments, in the run-up to Friday's game against Algeria, sparking fears by the horns' opponents that they could become popular at British grounds.

World Cup bosses have said the horns will not be banned in South Africa, saying they reflect "the sound of Africa" and South African organisers have said they are an important part of the atmosphere.

Their drone has sparked debate around the world, with broadcasters receiving complaints and the subject tackled on radio phone-ins, and some viewers watching the TV coverage with the sound turned off.

Atomic Pineapple

Its the constant drone during the entire game that's annoying!

People say its part of African soccer culture but clearly it cant be as the people using them are constantly using them and therefore cannot be actually there for the game!

No one would have any problem with them if they were used as part of celebration of goals or whatever but a constant drone adds no atmosphere to a game.

snaps

nearly a annoying and Boring as davids, southgate and viera on itv!!

Dempsey

draffodx wrote: »

Its the constant drone during the entire game that's annoying!

People say its part of African soccer culture but clearly it cant be as the people using them are constantly using them and therefore cannot be actually there for the game!

No one would have any problem with them if they were used as part of celebration of goals or whatever but a constant drone adds no atmosphere to a game.

Maybe you should watch South African football before making an ignorant comment like that. All I keep reading in this thread is arrogance and intolerance to what is part and parcel in South African football.

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised because in our own country we rather see a motorway open ahead of schedule and under budget than protecting our own culture and heritage.

Peyton Manning

http://twitter.com/The_Vuvuzela

evil_seed

snaps

Dempsey wrote: »

Maybe you should watch South African football before making an ignorant comment like that. All I keep reading in this thread is arrogance and intolerance to what is part and parcel in South African football.

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised because in our own country we rather see a motorway open ahead of schedule and under budget than protecting our own culture and heritage.

whats the connection with motorways and football?

Tom10

Dempsey wrote: »

I suppose I shouldnt be surprised because in our own country we rather see a motorway open ahead of schedule and under budget than protecting our own culture and heritage.

If you want to bitch about the government and roads I'm sure there's a better forum than the football one.

And most people that hate the vuvuzela's complain about the noise they make, not that it's part of South African soccer culture. If it make a sound that didn't irritate and actually changed to match the on-field action nobody would be bitching. So please stop saying it's a cultural thing, it's not, it's a "this droning sound is annoying as sh1t" and the matches suck balls which doesn't help.

Dempsey

snaps wrote: »

whats the connection with motorways and football?

Tom10 wrote: »

If you want to bitch about the government and roads I'm sure there's a better forum than the football one.

And most people that hate the vuvuzela's complain about the noise they make, not that it's part of South African soccer culture. If it make a sound that didn't irritate and actually changed to match the on-field action nobody would be bitching. So please stop saying it's a cultural thing, it's not, it's a "this droning sound is annoying as sh1t" and the matches suck balls which doesn't help.

You two need to re-read and try to understand my post. Maybe I'll rephrase it so you dont think that this is a political rant :rolleyes:

The vuvuzela and its noise is part and parcel of south african football and I shouldnt be surprised that a nation where motorways take priority over history and heritage complaining about what other countries consider important to their history and culture.


/penny drops

Iang87

i'm just wondering does anyone else thing these things have a factor on the calibre of games in the world cup?

I know that sounds ridiculous but what makes football match great is when the crowd gets fired up and involved in the game. This has an effect on players whether its their fans trying to cheer them on or the opposition fans jeering but with these horns it absolutely take any atmosphere out of the game. The majority of these games so far have the atmosphere of a game being played behind closed doors but someone left a microphone in a beehive and its filtering sound into the stadium.

To me this world cup has showed me one thing. The importance of having a real atmosphere and not one you buy outside the ground for 5 quid.

If this post is ignorance to african football culture i frankly dont give a **** because in my opinion the world cup is more important than african football culture and these things are ruining it.

Our man in Havana

The vuvuzela and its noise is part and parcel of south african football and I shouldnt be surprised that a nation where motorways take priority over history and heritage complaining about what other countries consider important to their history and culture.


/penny drops

Give it a rest.

Dempsey

Haddockman wrote: »

Give it a rest.

No :P

Daemos

mike65 wrote: »

BBC says we have the technology

We can rebuild him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zNY0I5JNI

NabyLadistheman

Lovin my Vuvuzela ap on the iphone! Wouldnt be without it!

Our man in Havana

torresistheman wrote: »

Lovin my Vuvuzela ap on the iphone! Wouldnt be without it!

:eek:

Tom10

Dempsey wrote: »

You two need to re-read and try to understand my post. Maybe I'll rephrase it so you dont think that this is a political rant :rolleyes:

The vuvuzela and its noise is part and parcel of south african football and I shouldnt be surprised that a nation where motorways take priority over history and heritage complaining about what other countries consider important to their history and culture.


/penny drops

Nonsense, just nonsense

stovelid

Tom10 wrote: »

Nonsense, just nonsense

Go easy on him there.

Rebuttal is one thing; no need to so comprehensively own him.

dreamers75

http://www.asylum.com/2010/06/15/how-to-filter-those-annoying-vuvuzelas/


there ya go.


Dont mind it myself but hey theres always one.

snaps

Iang87 wrote: »

i'm just wondering does anyone else thing these things have a factor on the calibre of games in the world cup?

I know that sounds ridiculous but what makes football match great is when the crowd gets fired up and involved in the game. This has an effect on players whether its their fans trying to cheer them on or the opposition fans jeering but with these horns it absolutely take any atmosphere out of the game. The majority of these games so far have the atmosphere of a game being played behind closed doors but someone left a microphone in a beehive and its filtering sound into the stadium.

To me this world cup has showed me one thing. The importance of having a real atmosphere and not one you buy outside the ground for 5 quid.

If this post is ignorance to african football culture i frankly dont give a **** because in my opinion the world cup is more important than african football culture and these things are ruining it.

Couldnt agree with you more, the football has been horrific, infact one of the worst world cups ive ever seen. The goal stats speak for themselves, already we are 33% down on goals scored. Even Brazil struggled last night. No atmosphere at games at all so far. No oohhs and ahhs, nothing just a constant drone of buzzing. These people blowing these yokes cant have any interest in the football.

Have you actually noticed more and more spectators now wearing earmuffs, headphones?

Aidric

snaps wrote: »

Have you actually noticed more and more spectators now wearing earmuffs, headphones?

Earplugs are selling like hot cakes. It's some joke that you travel all the way to South Africa to follow your side and then have to purchase ear plugs just to block out these horrific inventions.

Atomic Pineapple

Dempsey wrote: »

Maybe you should watch South African football before making an ignorant comment like that. All I keep reading in this thread is arrogance and intolerance to what is part and parcel in South African football.

Why would I do that when clearly even the people that go to the games dont even bother to watch the football! They just blow into a horn for 90 minutes

Dont be at yourself

Aidric wrote:

It's some joke that you travel all the way to South Africa to follow your side and then have to purchase ear plugs just to block out these horrific inventions.

It'd be more of a joke if the World Cup was being played in your own country and yet you weren't allowed to cheer and support your team like you do at any other game during the football season, because of the moans of some stuffy Europeans coming down for a visit.

Atomic Pineapple

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

It'd be more of a joke if the World Cup was being played in your own country and yet you weren't allowed to cheer and support your team like you do at any other game during the football season, because of the moans of some stuffy Europeans coming down for a visit.

South Africa haven't played since last Friday, yet my ears still bleed when I try to watch a match

mike65

Anyone try the BBC red button no comm option? They have removed 80% of the noise along with the commentary which could be a win/win for many.

lordgoat

mike65 wrote: »

Anyone try the BBC red button no comm option? They have removed 80% of the noise along with the commentary which could be a win/win for many.

I put my TV on mute and i can still here them. Suggestions?

CorkMan

Vuvuzelas should be brought in for the next St Pats-Derry City match, lighten up the atmosphere.

Have some lads with a couple of pints play the Vuvuzelas.

Catenaccio!

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

It'd be more of a joke if the World Cup was being played in your own country and yet you weren't allowed to cheer and support your team like you do at any other game during the football season, because of the moans of some stuffy Europeans coming down for a visit.

Some

Dempsey

draffodx wrote: »

Why would I do that when clearly even the people that go to the games dont even bother to watch the football! They just blow into a horn for 90 minutes

See the post below

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

It'd be more of a joke if the World Cup was being played in your own country and yet you weren't allowed to cheer and support your team like you do at any other game during the football season, because of the moans of some stuffy Europeans coming down for a visit.

dfx-

Aidric wrote: »

Earplugs are selling like hot cakes. It's some joke that you travel all the way to South Africa to follow your side and then have to purchase ear plugs just to block out these horrific inventions.

I thought the vast majority of people in the ground were loving the atmosphere inside the grounds and it was just the tv that was incensing the masses...

CoalBucket

2-0 to Uruguay, delighted, they can stick that in their vuvuzelas

CoalBucket

3-0 even better, you could actually hear the crowd when the third one went in !

TechnoPool

hopefully when they get knocked out they will stop using them so much!

Psychedelic

CoalBucket wrote: »

3-0 even better, you could actually hear the crowd when the third one went in !

Yeah they all just shut up straight away! lol.

pablomakaveli

Karmic justice for inflicting those things on the rest of the world.:D

dfx-

Just in case between matches that you feel that you need a vuvuzela fix, you can browse with one now..

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.boards.ie/

:cool:

Father Damo

Dr Galen wrote: »

. If your trying to link lower attendances to all the supporters having a horn

Oooh matron.

Cant keep an interest in any match at home tbh, it isnt as obvious in a crowded pub but its unwatchable at home.

snaps

There was no way i was watching the S African match last night. I actually listened to the Spain match on the radio and the sound was much easier on the ears!

baltimore sun

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Came across that link yesterday DFX, it's fantastic
and to all that hate the vuvuzela, boo-urns

if you were there you'd all be blowing on them after a few jars.
it's a complete over-reaction

why should something that the people there enjoy doing be banned just coz us lot cant hear the crowd singing,

get over yerselves, you could always hit mute and go here
http://howd.ie/ca9f4e1

rabble rabble rabble

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lisbon_lions

I hear these things all the time now, the other night just before nodding off - I swear I could hear them. walking down the street yesterday I even asked my mate "Can you hear them?" he said "no,but i get that sometimes". Weird...be hearing these things for months after.

stovelid

This could well be be the biggest WC thread on here by the end of the tournament.

enda1

I don't understand the comments about these being part of South African football culture and therefore must be respected...??

Firstly they've only being around for at most 20 years - not so long to call them traditional or a cultural necessity.
Secondly, even if something is part of a culture it does not necessarily deserve respect!
Hooliganism has been part of the culture of English football for a lot longer than 20 years but does not deserve repect nor tolerance.
Likewise in Italy racism and fascist comments have being part of particularly Lazio fans culture for a long time and also does not deserve tolerance nor respect.

Why do people think this noise deserves respect or tolerance?

mathie

snaps wrote: »

There was no way i was watching the S African match last night. I actually listened to the Spain match on the radio and the sound was much easier on the ears!

It was worth watching for when they conceeded.

Peace and quiet ..... for all of 30 seconds.