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Mysterious Russian Radio Station Goes Offline

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭uprising2


    Maybe they changed from analog to digital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    huge thread about these stations on another forum. Intruiging that it just shut down. Alot of them are very creepy. It's the sort of stuff that would keep me awake at night!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFRonD-sjg&feature=related
    If you think the video is creepy the noise makes it worse!

    There is one with a little german girl reading out numbers at random. Some of the scariest stuff I've ever experienced!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭cullen5998


    whats the purpose of any of these stations? I dont know anything about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    They were used to send messages to spies and they had a special machine at decoding it. But every broadcast was different.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station#In_popular_culture

    I'd hate to be a spy listening to all this stuff all day. I'd be paranoid all the time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    huge thread about these stations on another forum. Intruiging that it just shut down. Alot of them are very creepy. It's the sort of stuff that would keep me awake at night!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFRonD-sjg&feature=related
    If you think the video is creepy the noise makes it worse!

    There is one with a little german girl reading out numbers at random. Some of the scariest stuff I've ever experienced!

    FFS, that needs a health warning, freaky poop


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    huge thread about these stations on another forum. Intruiging that it just shut down. Alot of them are very creepy. It's the sort of stuff that would keep me awake at night!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFRonD-sjg&feature=related
    If you think the video is creepy the noise makes it worse!

    There is one with a little german girl reading out numbers at random. Some of the scariest stuff I've ever experienced!
    Jebus! dont post stuff like that without a warning haha.
    One of the youtube comments made me laugh alot!
    "Fcuk it i didnt intend to sleep anyway"

    Its not scary for me only for the fact that it might contain subliminals which i ussually avert my eyes from lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    that is ****ed, reminded me of the ring!

    I don't know wheter there is some strange story behind these radio stations but it could be turned into an excellent film?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭squeakyduck


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVqaoxxsN7Q

    The video is really cool. This is the Sweedish Rhapsody, it's my favourite one. I couldn't think of the name earlier.

    It's strange that they used the voice of a little German girl though. Especially since most of these transmissions are scrammed noise based.

    It does get a little wierd/scary at the end! (Just a warning to you kids I did scare!) :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    AlcoholicA wrote: »
    that is ****ed, reminded me of the ring!

    I don't know wheter there is some strange story behind these radio stations but it could be turned into an excellent film?

    Ye it could be turned into a film.Especially a big hollywood one if they want to cover up what happened :)
    After all i get told ALOT by some people on this forum that i am being ridiculous because they saw that in a fictional movie.
    The suggestion they went to digital was funny but possibly partly true lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    These things seriously freaky me out.

    Ever since my first taste of what a number station sounded like:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Wilco and The Besnard Lakes have both used bits of the signals for songs too.

    Interesting stuff. And f*cking brilliant songs. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    Wilco and The Besnard Lakes have both used bits of the signals for songs too.

    Interesting stuff. And f*cking brilliant songs. :D

    Oooo, thanks for the tip!

    Ive only listened to The Bernard Lakes for a few minutes and they sound great, like a modern day pink floyd.

    Will check out Wilco too,

    Sorry for derailing the thread, relevant replies may proceed..........:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Just copied this from a mailing list I'm on

    "S28 (the official ENIGMA designator for UVB-76 or "the buzzer") is still there on 4625/4667 kHz at 2230 UTC on June 6 (Sun) with unchanged strong signal here in good old Germany, Europe.

    73"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Two of the songs with the number signals:





    Just out of interest. The Besnard Lakes have used Number Signal samples a few times. The Wilco one is notable though - the sample comes from The Conet Project, a reasonably well known compilation of recordings of shortwave Number Signals. The company that made the compilation sued over copyright, but since, technically, the "owners" of the original signals weren't known, I'm not sure their claim could have held up. In any event, the band settled out of court before it was tested. The album is named after the sample used - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, from the NATO phonetic alphabet.

    Carry on. :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    More info on them here , the Conet Project is not something you want to be listening to late at night though.

    Very unsettling that The Buzzer went offline :(

    The purpose of the stations is pretty much unknown, but there's a few theories, one is that they are a 'Dead Man's Hand'... if they stop transmitting, then something bad has occurred.

    Another is that they are spy stations, and, when used with a one-time pad, transmit messages.

    Another is that they are used to calibrate military listening equipment, like huge curtain antennas, (like the Russian Woodpecker)that usually can pick up sounds that are below what most radio equipment can, or might be mistaken for noise, and can apparently hear halfway around the globe if needed. So these need to be kept primed and calibrated, and that's what number stations are for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Very interesting topic.. thanks for posting it


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Silverfish wrote: »
    More info on them here , the Conet Project is not something you want to be listening to late at night though.

    Very unsettling that The Buzzer went offline :(

    The purpose of the stations is pretty much unknown, but there's a few theories, one is that they are a 'Dead Man's Hand'... if they stop transmitting, then something bad has occurred.

    Another is that they are spy stations, and, when used with a one-time pad, transmit messages.

    Another is that they are used to calibrate military listening equipment, like huge curtain antennas, (like the Russian Woodpecker)that usually can pick up sounds that are below what most radio equipment can, or might be mistaken for noise, and can apparently hear halfway around the globe if needed. So these need to be kept primed and calibrated, and that's what number stations are for.


    Ahh that first link scared the crap out of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Interesting topic all right, never heard of these before.

    I don't really get why it's scary/freaky tho?

    Am i missing something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    ntlbell wrote: »
    Interesting topic all right, never heard of these before.

    I don't really get why it's scary/freaky tho?

    Am i missing something




    Thats the one that seems to freak most people out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    waveform wrote: »


    Thats the one that seems to freak most people out.

    Yeah, I had listened to that one, I think it's pretty relaxing :pac:

    Maybe I should have waited till it was 2/3am in the morning on my tod.

    Any got any more links to read up on this?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Magaa wrote: »
    Ahh that first link scared the crap out of me.

    Swedish Rhapsody? There's an ice-cream van here that plays that.
    Put me off icecream.

    This is where the Buzzer apparently broadcasts from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Swedish Rhapsody? There's an ice-cream van here that plays that.
    Put me off icecream.

    This is where the Buzzer apparently broadcasts from.

    Would that place be abandoned? Id imagine its a military place

    Yeah scary!, specialy when you keep imagining if you turn around your gonna see the grudge :cool:


    Edit: sorry no the scond one is more scary



    UVB-76 station

    downloader.php?file=UVB-76_3.png

    what are those circles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Ratzo Rizzo


    4.625 and 4.667 MHz are both audible here in Co. Tipperary now (1955L).
    Also some voice comms on 4.645.35 USB which sounds like they are being intentionally jammed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Magaa wrote: »

    what are those circles?

    I think the top one is a compass, but it looks shopped


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    I think the top one is a compass, but it looks shopped
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76
    its actually not,

    theres a theory ive been reading about necular missiles there and that radio transmission is a failsafe of somesort


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    AlcoholicA wrote: »
    that is ****ed, reminded me of the ring!

    I don't know wheter there is some strange story behind these radio stations but it could be turned into an excellent film?


    Reminds me of The Ring too! Could be a film in this ...

    But man, this is some freaky-sheeeet alright! ... It's kinda surreal though how well it translates into music too ... Maybe that's it? What if it's some old Cold War mind-fukc psyops what's been left running and warped itself into an art-form. Like maybe some soviet spark had the idea to just pump out random messages which mean absolutely nothing. Spy networks on all sides were continually second-guessing themselves anyway, still are ... maybe it began as an attempt to confuse and distract, and further squander resources ... :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    Two of the songs with the number signals:





    Just out of interest. The Besnard Lakes have used Number Signal samples a few times. The Wilco one is notable though - the sample comes from The Conet Project, a reasonably well known compilation of recordings of shortwave Number Signals. The company that made the compilation sued over copyright, but since, technically, the "owners" of the original signals weren't known, I'm not sure their claim could have held up. In any event, the band settled out of court before it was tested. The album is named after the sample used - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, from the NATO phonetic alphabet.

    Carry on. :)

    good bands, btw ...... and Besnard Lakes have a song called 'For Agent 13' ... ?

    I'm I reading too much into all this ... :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    Misleading title OP..I thought this forums very own mysterious had a radio station.Im disappointed now:mad::D.

    Yes a very interesting topic and seriously fecking strange....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I downloaded a program called HamSphere (virtual ham radio) after seeing it mentioned on another forum discussing the UVB-76 signal.. There's currently a very interesting discussion about numbers stations on one of the channels - 6.270.00


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  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Magaa wrote: »
    Would that place be abandoned? Id imagine its a military place

    Yeah scary!, specialy when you keep imagining if you turn around your gonna see the grudge :cool:


    Edit: sorry no the scond one is more scary



    UVB-76 station

    downloader.php?file=UVB-76_3.png

    what are those circles?

    does any one else find this intresting?
    it cold be a doomsday station like if that radio changes or is programmed there could be missiles released

    thories ofc


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    Yes it could be, it bloody-well could be and i just spent the better part of the day googling over this one - feel like I've been psyoped by my own fukced up psyop CT theory THAT'S how good these soviet pyops people are! Danm those pesky Ruskies :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Flaregon


    Quality fun in this topic.

    heres 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdnoAJ7KoFE

    Now only thing they have in common is the fact that they have numbers and wired back ground sounds, What if there just a sound testing system, trying to find brown noise or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    I dont know why but since i started reading this thread i have gotten a very bad feeling :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    caseyann wrote: »
    I dont know why but since i started reading this thread i have gotten a very bad feeling :(

    same here, it's been at me all day ... feels like those guys in that series Lost when they had to feed numbers into that machine doomsday machine! Actually thinking on it now i never did find out what all that was about ... but could that series have been somehow hinting at this stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    Theres a recording of the exact time UBV-76 went off air here: :cool:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Hw33bslAU


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Early this year i was listening to advertisments on the radio , and i started thinking that there may be coded messages in adverts for certain products on the radio , i know it may sounds a bit way out , but thats what i think , that certain information that someone or group is trying to get out has been coded into certain advertisements on the radio , because of certains words used in ads , you see , why would they be saying that in an advert , nothing to do with the product they are promoting . :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    waveform wrote: »
    Theres a recording of the exact time UBV-76 went off air here: :cool:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Hw33bslAU

    LOL!! That's just so funny in such a fukced up way - and that's only the 4th time voices have been heard, right? And then it just stops ....... wtf????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    waveform wrote: »
    Theres a recording of the exact time UBV-76 went off air here: :cool:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Hw33bslAU

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    espinolman wrote: »
    Early this year i was listening to advertisments on the radio , and i started thinking that there may be coded messages in adverts for certain products on the radio , i know it may sounds a bit way out , but thats what i think , that certain information that someone or group is trying to get out has been coded into certain advertisements on the radio , because of certains words used in ads , you see , why would they be saying that in an advert , nothing to do with the product they are promoting . :rolleyes:

    I cant remember the name,
    but theres a watermark that can be placed in digital audio, that is not audible to the human ear, but can be read by a computer,
    the whole point is if you heard a song out and about,
    and you didnt know the name of it,
    whip out your iphone lets say,
    the app would "listen" to the audio coming through the microphone,
    decode the water mark, and it would be able to give you the name of the song by looking up an internet database.

    It could just as easily be used to encode a message,
    that could only be decoded by a spy.

    Just a more modernized method in comparison to number stations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    LOL!! That's just so funny in such a fukced up way - and that's only the 4th time voices have been heard, right? And then it just stops ....... wtf????

    I guess so! I didnt know wether it was a genuine recording of the voices or not!
    You seem to know more than I do!
    I lol'd when i heard it. :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    waveform wrote: »
    I cant remember the name,
    but theres a watermark that can be placed in digital audio, that is not audible to the human ear, but can be read by a computer,
    the whole point is if you heard a song out and about,
    and you didnt know the name of it,
    whip out your iphone lets say,
    the app would "listen" to the audio coming through the microphone,
    decode the water mark, and it would be able to give you the name of the song by looking up an internet database.

    It could just as easily be used to encode a message,
    that could only be decoded by a spy.

    Just a more modernized method in comparison to number stations.


    Wasn't there's also that holographic sound advertising which there was a lot of controversy about a couple of years ago .... can't recall the company now, 'blue something' ....?


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    waveform wrote: »
    I guess so! I didnt know wether it was a genuine recording of the voices or not!
    You seem to know more than I do!
    I lol'd when i heard it. :pac:

    lol! I know feck about the bloody thing and it's been driving me bananas all day!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    Wasn't there's also that holographic sound advertising which there was a lot of controversy about a couple of years ago .... can't recall the company now, 'blue something' ....?

    I've no idea, but that holographic sound looks interesting.

    http://www.holophonic.ch/archivio/testaudio/Cerini%20-%20Stereo.mp3

    I remember my first time listening to it was that mp3 of a barbershop,
    where the barber is meant to be cutting your hair,
    and you can hear the razor quite clearly, as if its really next to your ear!

    If you have any more examples i'd love to hear them.


    While we're on the topic of encoded signals check out this obscure video involving transmitting an application that would run on a Commodore 64 during a TV show!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKmu68URUeI


    If you look at the info it's well explained,
    If I attempted to explain it now I'd only make a balls of it, i'm so tired!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    Actually remember on the likes of ITV and other English TV stations back in the day,
    about 1 minute before the ads would come on, you'd get this Black and White twirly thing up the top right corner of the screen?

    What the hell was that about!
    Could easily have been a message encoded in that.

    It would of been handy for some vcr's,
    so that if you were taping the VCR would stop automatically,
    and start it automatically when the ads are finished, so you dont have any ads taped!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    waveform wrote: »
    Actually remember on the likes of ITV and other English TV stations back in the day,
    about 1 minute before the ads would come on, you'd get this Black and White twirly thing up the top right corner of the screen?

    What the hell was that about!
    Could easily have been a message encoded in that.

    It would of been handy for some vcr's,
    so that if you were taping the VCR would stop automatically,
    and start it automatically when the ads are finished, so you dont have any ads taped!

    Yeah, they're Cue Marks. A somewhat similar idea is used to identify copyrighted material in visual media. As for audio, I don't think any 'signal' is added to do so, song recognition is mostly done by comparison to a DB full of songs. It's possible to very slightly alter songs in a defined way so that software can detect and decode it which allows you to add virtual information to the track


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    waveform wrote: »
    I've no idea, but that holographic sound looks interesting.

    http://www.holophonic.ch/archivio/testaudio/Cerini%20-%20Stereo.mp3

    I remember my first time listening to it was that mp3 of a barbershop,
    where the barber is meant to be cutting your hair,
    and you can hear the razor quite clearly, as if its really next to your ear!

    If you have any more examples i'd love to hear them.


    While we're on the topic of encoded signals check out this obscure video involving transmitting an application that would run on a Commodore 64 during a TV show!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKmu68URUeI


    If you look at the info it's well explained,
    If I attempted to explain it now I'd only make a balls of it, i'm so tired!


    Thanks, tired here too .... trolling the religion forum for some weird reason ... I wish I could remember that advertising thing with the holographic sound. I'll try to dig it up at some point. Basically, you'd be walking past a tv shop say, and suddenly you'd have a voice which only you can hear blasting at you to buy a tv. That kind of thing. It was tested in a few countries and raised a lot of legal issues .....


    .... waiting for that vid load.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Doge


    Thanks, tired here too .... trolling the religion forum for some weird reason ... I wish I could remember that advertising thing with the holographic sound. I'll try to dig it up at some point. Basically, you'd be walking past a tv shop say, and suddenly you'd have a voice which only you can hear blasting at you to buy a tv. That kind of thing. It was tested in a few countries and raised a lot of legal issues .....


    .... waiting for that vid load.


    Sounds like something similar to this:

    http://www.ted.com/talks/woody_norris_invents_amazing_things.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭yuloni


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Condi wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Yeah, I brought it up in work during lunch and I just got blank faces.

    Maybe they're all in on it!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    Condi wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    yeah i heard its back again


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