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blastman

cournioni

Dravokivich wrote: »

What's the point on going to a Rock and Roll / Metal gig if all they are going to do is a recital?

If anyone was bemused, it just shows how little they knew of Iron Maiden beforehand. I was bemused before back in 2003, not by the sight of the flag but the reaction some people seemed to take against it, who didn't seem to be aware that it's a part of their show.

I'd imagine they were bemused because Maiden went back on their word from the RDS. I certainly was surprised and it's my fourth time seeing them.

To be honest, pictures don't offend me at all. Actions do.

Mental Mickey

If people know what the song is about, they'll understand why the flag is used.

endacl

I didn't make this show. First time since the Seventh Son tour. That flag is part of the Maiden pantomime, and long may it remain so. I'd be kinda annoyed if they kowtowed to the rabble and left it out. TBH.

It's just a piece of cloth ffs.

cournioni

Mental Mickey wrote: »

If people know what the song is about, they'll understand why the flag is used.

We know what the song is about. It's still about as appropriate as seeing a swastika waved around on stage during a Slayer set.

endacl wrote: »

I didn't make this show. First time since the Seventh Son tour. That flag is part of the Maiden pantomime, and long may it remain so. I'd be kinda annoyed if they kowtowed to the rabble and left it out. TBH.

It's just a piece of cloth ffs.

You're clearly missing the point.

Seth Brundle

Can any flag discussions be taken elsewhere?
I suspect that most fans don't care about the flag!

cournioni

kbannon wrote: »

Can any flag discussions be taken elsewhere?
I suspect that most fans don't care about the flag!

Why should it? This is an Iron Maiden thread, so it's very much Iron Maiden related. Surely if the Union Flag is part of their "pantomime", then it should be part of the discussion in this thread.

Plenty care.

endacl

cournioni wrote: »

We know what the song is about. It's still about as appropriate as seeing a swastika waved around on stage during a Slayer set.


You're clearly missing the point.

Or perhaps I see that there really isn't a point to either hit or miss?

Dargull

If I was a British person I'd be kind of pissed off if my national flag was being dragged around a stage, fecked all over the place and being used to play hide and seek with the guitar player. Glad it wasn't the tricolor.

jack presley

Dargull wrote: »

If I was a British person I'd be kind of pissed off if my national flag was being dragged around a stage, fecked all over the place and being used to play hide and seek with the guitar player. Glad it wasn't the tricolor.

It was a fairly ragged flag too!

Mental Mickey

Dargull wrote: »

If I was a British person I'd be kind of pissed off if my national flag was being dragged around a stage, fecked all over the place and being used to play hide and seek with the guitar player. Glad it wasn't the tricolor.

Oh Jesus H Christmas!!!!! It's only a fcuking song lads!!! Get over it!!!!!!!

Jelle1880

cournioni wrote: »

We know what the song is about. It's still about as appropriate as seeing a swastika waved around on stage during a Slayer set.


You're clearly missing the point.

It really isn't, unless you genuinely believe a Union flag is as bad as a swastika.
In which case the problem lies with those that think so.

Meursault

Dargull wrote: »

If I was a British person I'd be kind of pissed off if my national flag was being dragged around a stage, fecked all over the place and being used to play hide and seek with the guitar player. Glad it wasn't the tricolor.

I was talking to two lads from England after the show. I asked them what their highlight. Both said the Trooper. They were delighted to see that their flag could be flown these days in Ireland without any negative response.

I don't have any issue with this. If you have a problem with the British flag then don't go to see a British band who have always ALWAYS had the British flag on stage.

FFS, if it was an Irish band waving a tricolour on stage in London, the vast majority of Irish people would be delighted.

People are desperate to be offended these days.

Ash.J.Williams

I don't care what maiden do with the flag, however was it not mostly Irish killed in the charge? Led by incapable British commanders? definitely 50/50

Jelle1880

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I don't care what maiden do with the flag, however was it not mostly Irish killed in the charge? Led by incapable British commanders? definitely 50/50

I think there were 3 regiments from Ireland involved, out of 8 ?
Not sure though, as they constantly got changed and moved around or integrated into other regiments.

Ash.J.Williams

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I think there were 3 regiments from Ireland involved, out of 8 ?
Not sure though, as they constantly got changed and moved around or integrated into other regiments.

significant enough, operation get behind the Irish!

seachto7

Do Sinn Fein supporters like Iron Maiden?

Wrongway1985

seachto7 wrote: »

Do Sinn Fein supporters like Iron Maiden?

No more so than any other "republican" party one would think.

Dublin earned itself the Jackeen label all in vein it seems, Maiden can't even rock up, raise a staple of their set which takes what? 30 seconds?

See people comparing a swastika to the British flag? Bit mental last time I checked any event be it sporting or whatever with internaional presence you don't see swastikas flowing gently in the wind.

Dyr

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

See people comparing a swastika to the British flag? Bit mental last time I checked any event be it sporting or whatever with internaional presence you don't see swastikas flowing gently in the wind.

In fairness, the germans had the good grace to change the flag and apologize for their shenanigans

Meursault

Bambi wrote: »

In fairness, the germans had the good grace to change the flag and apologize for their shenanigans

Why should the British change their flag and for how long should they apologise exactly? Or, in Ireland's case, should they apologise forevermore?

Is it Iron Maiden's fault that there were a few pr*cks in their royal family down through the centuries? Get out over it ffs. If you can't, then take you half arsed political statements to the Politics board. This is the music board.

Angron

Folks, can we cool it with the arguments over a flag and maintain some civility. And Meursault, don't start telling people where to post, particularly in that manner. It doesn't contribute anything.

Wrongway1985

Bambi wrote: »

In fairness, the germans had the good grace to change the flag and apologize for their shenanigans

They only adopted the imperial stuff in the dodgy times I take it your talking about. Pretty sure the red yellow black on the go since after world war 1 (those times aside). Anyway I'll leave it at that.

Meursault

Angron wrote: »

Folks, can we cool it with the arguments over a flag and maintain some civility. And Meursault, don't start telling people where to post, particularly in that manner. It doesn't contribute anything.

Fair enough, point taken Angron.

jack presley

http://loudwire.com/iron-maiden-legal-dispute-hallowed-be-thy-name-the-nomad/

Interesting story on why they're not playing Hallowed Be thy Name on this leg. At least it's not Bruce's voice that's the reason.

That bit from the Nomad is a complete rip off. I don't know how they got away with that.

flasher0030

jack presley wrote: »

http://loudwire.com/iron-maiden-legal-dispute-hallowed-be-thy-name-the-nomad/

Interesting story on why they're not playing Hallowed Be thy Name on this leg. At least it's not Bruce's voice that's the reason.

That bit from the Nomad is a complete rip off. I don't know how they got away with that.

I'm not a legal head, but I don't understand why they had to drop the song. Ok, there's a dispute going on, but surely they could keep playing the song until dispute has been resolved. Anyway, doesn't matter now. Great gig.

Betsy Og

Mentioned a few times about going back on their word. I was at that RDS gig, my recollection is that Bruce said they had decided not to use it this time but the hoped that it would be no issue in the future or words to that effect. We've since lapped up Banrion Eilis Uimhir a Do, and gone hurling with Charles in Kilkenny.... in other words its time to let go.

Maiden are aware of the loyalist mural thing are Bruce mentioned about it being highjacked and not being happy with that.

So no commitment was made to never ever wave the flag, in fact it was 'flagged' that it would or should happen in the future. Glad to see someone else mentioned pantomime as that's pretty much how I fell about it. Some elements are pantomime - Eddie - so a think a fair bit of the booing is pantomime 'look out behind ya" type reaction. You'll never get everyone to agree, those with genuine objections are surely are more acutely aware of the "issue" than anyone else so made your decision and be happy with that. No point just moaning about it.

scudzilla

Anyone heard of what happened to the loon who jumped??

Ash.J.Williams

As he spreads his wings and shouts at the crowd
In the name of God my father I fly

flasher0030

I shouldn’t laugh, but that is funny. He must have been disappointed it wasn’t played on the night. As a gesture, Maiden should include it on the setlist from now on, and dedicate it to the Irish goon

Lithium93_

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