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Kick-ASS the movie.Bad for your health?
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LOL funnyPirateShampoo wrote: »I think you should watch "Leon" like somebody suggested. Just be prepared for a mental break down.
Very good film though.
I actually have watched "Leon" but it was many years ago and i was a blind ignorant person back then if im totally honest.I would not have seen much then as i was a person who was very unaware of myself or my surroundings.I put this down to mind control and brainwashing in the religion i was in for the most part.And also i had no clue something malicious could ever be there since i just simply didnt think about things in general as much as i do now.
Thanks for the suggestion though.I might watch it again,i remember i thought it was a very good and moving film but i did think it a little disturbing at the same time.
Maybe creepy is the word cant really remember exactly how i felt about it i would have ben about 18-21 back then i think.0 -
WARNING this post is probably not suitable to be viewed by children/at work,as some of the video footage and discussion is of an adult nature and touches on some social taboo's.
In an age where pedophilia is still unacceptable to most i think it is important sometimes to be aware of the nature of the content society is soaking up.
I will be taking for granted that most viewing this will be aware that children and teenagers are much more likely to be influenced by movies and tv in general.Due to their curiousity and willingness to act out roles for fun.
I personally have experience of this as i used to as a child re enact fighting scenes or pretend to be something i had seen on tv.
This imo can carry on into late adult hood depending i think on how self aware people are,especially of their actions and the effect they have on others and their enviornment.
Heres an introduction to Hit-Girl (the original name for the movie but had to be changed.Ive read somewhere Hit-Girl is a word used in pedophile rings for a targeted girl,wiltry confirm that later if asked to,as google isnt helping me on that issue right now).
Warning this video contains bad language.
In that video above,id like people to notice some of the violent and sexual inuendos and comments in relation to this girl, her big daddy and other gansters she kills and maims.Also if bad language is still offensive to some people then it may be a little moreso from an 11 year old actress(at the time of filming).
The next clip is a short one of Big Daddy training his daughter Hit-Girl to be prepared for her later work.He is her mentor and father it appears and is important in her training.
Some excerpts from this scene.Id like people to read the vocal side of this scene before watching it to understand how double suggestion works and that while the video itself captures the conscious mind the vocal word(and also images too) can been seen in many lights by the subconscious i believe.You can argue with me on that one later.As subliminal suggestion would be involved in that topic.
Hitgirl: Daddy im scared.
Bigdaddy: Come on Mindy..honey.Be a big girl now,theres nothing to be afraid of.
Hitgirl: Is it gonna hurt bad?
Bigdaddy: Oh child.Only for a second sugar.(some dialog missing here for as irelevant to my point)
Hitgirl: I hate getting punched in the chest.
Bigdaddy: Your gonna be fine! babydoll......How was that? Not so bad? Kinda fun huh?....Now you know how it feels..you wont be scared when some chunky asshole pulls a glock.
Hitgirl: I wouldnt have been scared anyways.
Bigdaddy: Thats my girl.Ok up you get,two more rounds and then home.
Hitgirl: Again!?
Bigdaddy: aha.(as a yes tone)
Hitgirl: Only if i can go to the bowling alley on the way back..and iscream after(yes im aware of that spelling mistake,but i write it the way it sounds when pronounced on film).
Bigdaddy: uh..ok!...Two more rounds...No wincing,no whining....and you got yourself a deal young lady!
hitgirl: Yeah! Im gonna get hotfudge sunday.
Bigdaddy: Good call babydoll!
Question: Would you want your kids taking in this kind of suggestion?
Especially if its shown in a positive seemingly socially accepted light as its in a movie it must be acceptable on some level.This is my idea of the reflection of a persons internal subconscious thoughts.
So anyway i will let you make your own conclusions from the video.Its obvious what the directors etc ment the scene to mean from watching the video.But i have to wonder do they realise the effects this may have on kids subconsciously? Also adults too i might add.
Last video i promise for this post anyway :P
2:10 mins into it is a pretty vulgur phalic comment from the 11 year old which i thought relevant to this post.Mainly to ask, should an 11 year old character in any situation ever have carnel knowledge of this nature.
My summary and im guessing it might be longer than i ussually first imagine is as follows.
I posted this because i would like people to be aware of the suggestion that is being used in movies to degrade societies moral principals/standards.
There are CT's about this claiming its the zionists trying to degrade American society and i think there was a thread recently with info and a video from an ex russian spy or soemthign similar who explained how the need to destroy morals is part of the plan when taking over a country or state etc.
I am not here to discuss zionists as i think another thread can be more suitable.Maybe the Edward Norton one.
My worry is that movies like this could have an effect especially when the technique is carried on in many movies and cartoons that young people will be watching and i have shown how their guard will be down when watching tv many times when posting about the effects of tv in regards your critical thinking faculties amongs other things.
This movie looks like a tool that pedophiles might like to use for their/other kids to subtly(in this case not so much!) coerce their minds to be more open to the idea of everything that would entail.
Id like to refer you to the dialog i posted above of the second video for an example of what i mean.
To see the conspiracy that it is actually quite dominant in kids programming you will have to understand and research what i have been talking about in other movies and even kids programs.Programs and movies are a form of social programming if you consider the fact people do take in social activities of every kind they see on the tv and sometimes emulate it as a form of expression or for other reasons.
Do we want more kids to be expressing themsleves in this manor?
Do we want teenage males to associate this child Hit-Girl as a girl or symbol of a girl that they could hit on?
Do we want older males in the Nicholas Cage range to be having this relationship or even subconsciously ever consider it for their children or even those children around them that may fall under the category or reference as similar subconsciously.
These are the questions i would like people to consider and take away from this thread.I hope to protect a few more kids by trying to get through to their parents especially to be aware of pedophilia in general and that it is quite possible as ive shown and others too that the media can be a tool for pedophiles or imo even to create them as well as many other criminal activities purely by subtle suggestion when speaking to the subconscious.
To people who might be posting to support the movie industry or some of the people involved in making this film and many others.I will say i think the film itself as a comedy looks pretty funny in parts.Im sure the movie is enjoyabl and am not insinuating in this post that the director purposefully put in this content in such a manor as tocause the effects i described.
I will state now that i feel this is a possible consequence of material like this and wether it is being done on purpose in many movies, i leave up to each individual here.
So if nothing else catches anyones fancy comment wise il pose again the thread topic as a question.
Do you think Kick-Ass the movie is bad for your/others/kids health?
Ps. In case im accused of giving advice or anything.I am just asking questions.
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Yep i certainly do! lol
It is irritating but i spend most of it not sitting around wasting my time watching tv etc.
Ussually do research or browse online or go out for a walk
So ye i do have alot of time to research this where others may not.
The reason i spend so much of my time looking up about different topics is because i used to be extremely ignorant(on many levels) and i am ashamed of myself so much that i vowed i would stop wasting my life with silly distractions and educate myself about the world and how it works.
To be honest i wish i had done it sooner when i was around 18-21.My life would have been much happier.0 -
Yep i certainly do! lol
It is irritating but i spend most of it not sitting around wasting my time watching tv etc.
Ussually do research or browse online or go out for a walk
So ye i do have alot of time to research this where others may not.
The reason i spend so much of my time looking up about different topics is because i used to be extremely ignorant(on many levels) and i am ashamed of myself so much that i vowed i would stop wasting my life with silly distractions and educate myself about the world and how it works.
To be honest i wish i had done it sooner when i was around 18-21.My life would have been much happier.
Good stuff I guess, keep the head busy.0 -
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lol lets just put it down to insightful sarcasm, no harm done
I shouldnt bump this without adding to the topic or peeps will start being annoyed for clicking to see nothing much.
Lets see what i can find to add to it a little.
Heres a little more info on the Double Entendre which is a little relevant to subliminal suggestion except it isnt subliminal in a vocalized sense anyway i think.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleEntendre
In the same manner a double entendre works we can see that people will assume certain meanings or even 2 or 3 different meanings in the same sentence and still be conscious of it.Shrek's line "Do you think maybe he's compensating for something?", upon seeing Lord Faarquad's towering castle, could both be interpreted as Faarquad compensating for his height or... something else. Of course, "Lord Faarquad" itself sounds like something else entirely...
As i showed with advertising earlier the unconscious mind is aware of 80% of what is going on around you and the conscious mind that you are aware of, is taking in the other 20% with the average person.I believe we can enhance this 20% to a higher number by being more self aware and looking at adverts,movies,music with a mind to what they are passing to our unconscious.
While the main focus of a person watching a movie or tv will be on the characters,the main plot,relationships etc the unconscious mind will be busy taking in the other 80% of what is in your surroundings as well as pictures in the background of the movie that you would not normally notice and other things like this.Because a television causes a trance like state i think it is even more effective.
I think also in that 80% the double entendre works especially well with taboo subjects or anything the viewer may not be interested in viewing.(like the diet coke advertising on cans mentioned in the advertising link i used before....you read some of it right?)
This is where i see a possible issue with the mind taking in information and creating a basis for your view of reality,based on everything you experience and if 80% goes in and we are not even aware of it then how would we know if it effects us directly.
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lol lets just put it down to insightful sarcasm, no harm done
I shouldnt bump this without adding to the topic or peeps will start being annoyed for clicking to see nothing much.
Lets see what i can find to add to it a little.
Heres a little more info on the Double Entendre which is a little relevant to subliminal suggestion except it isnt subliminal in a vocalized sense anyway i think.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DoubleEntendre
In the same manner a double entendre works we can see that people will assume certain meanings or even 2 or 3 different meanings in the same sentence and still be conscious of it.
As i showed with advertising earlier the unconscious mind is aware of 80% of what is going on around you and the conscious mind that you are aware of, is taking in the other 20% with the average person.I believe we can enhance this 20% to a higher number by being more self aware and looking at adverts,movies,music with a mind to what they are passing to our unconscious.
While the main focus of a person watching a movie or tv will be on the characters,the main plot,relationships etc the unconscious mind will be busy taking in the other 80% of what is in your surroundings as well as pictures in the background of the movie that you would not normally notice and other things like this.Because a television causes a trance like state i think it is even more effective.
I think also in that 80% the double entendre works especially well with taboo subjects or anything the viewer may not be interested in viewing.(like the diet coke advertising on cans mentioned in the advertising link i used before....you read some of it right?)
This is where i see a possible issue with the mind taking in information and creating a basis for your view of reality,based on everything you experience and if 80% goes in and we are not even aware of it then how would we know if it effects us directly.
I think it would take a long period of time and multiple viewings to create a solid effect though.
Fantastic, he's discovered the double entendre, someone stops him before he discovers that it's the basic fountain of British Comedic Cinema of the 1960s and 70s. Your head will explode.
What are you trying to say, that kids shouldn't watch Shrek because the film makers realised that half their audience are parents and dropped in the odd joke to keep them amused?
Or that kids films should be entirely wholesome and not sinister or dark in anyway and hollywood are corrupting our youth?
Have you read any of the Grimm's fairy tales? Do you even grasp how bizarre and bubble like your argument is?0 -
PirateShampoo wrote: »I think you should watch "Leon" like somebody suggested. Just be prepared for a mental break down.
Very good film though.
Leon, brilliant film! And just gotta say I know we don't agree on many things here, but just finished watching Kick-Ass and well, maybe i was 'mind controlled' by the 'subliminals' or whatever but i really enjoyed it! Good fun, seriously, I don't think there was anything pervy about it or any such thing. I'll take that back what I said about references to MKULTRA too. Sure, perhaps, perhaps, but after watching it all the way through I personally think not.
Yeah it's violent and has strong language and so on, and that's why it's not a kid's film, and fair enough.
And sure the Hit-Girl character's supposed to be only 11, but personally, whether she's 11 or 111, she only does in that film what many dream about doing daily to the scumbags running the show in real life so hey, fair play to them for giving us another psychic elemental to let loose on their arses! The more the merrier.
And no doubt the graphic novel's gotta be better, going by some of the posts here (and what they did to V for Vendetta and don't get me started on Watchmen!) but seriously guys, it is what it is I reckon; just a film and not all that disturbing, all told. Leastways I don't think I'll be losing any sleep over this one.
Valhalla Rising though ... hmmm, different story. Highly recommend it to all who can stomach a serious dose of surreal 12th century barbarity. Beautifully shot too.
Though ... can someone please upload the clip when she storms Domingo's office - fukking class!!!
hehehe, well anyway, Kick-Ass actually put me in a good mood. See how long that lasts ...0 -
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Thanks for the post.Much appreciated.
I will watch it soon as i can.
Will also be watching Leon aswell soon
I dont mean to get people all flustered and excited about this.
Just another topic imo and i could post things here that would really excite people or make their skin crawl, but i know most would not be able to handle it,i am very realistic in my thoughts and dont find taboo subjects as much a turn off, if its something that is affecting other people in the world i feel its my duty to myself not to be ignorant of its happening(like abductions and such).Too much detail on what happens in this world can effect some people very negatively and it takes a balanced mind iwould guess to handle the havy stuff and not let it get to you.
If anything i am doing the movie producers a favour with my advertising of its "evil nature".That is partly what they were aiming for when realising this movie i would think.Same for some music videos.Its kind of a popular thing to add symbolism in for those who pay attention to it.
Like the double entendre post i think the allseeing eye and other similar symbolism is put into movies to add another facet for people who are very aware.
What i think also happens is there is a level that is so subtle that it only leaves us with a hint of an idea unconsciously.When its reaffirmed in many areas then i think it is embedded properly.So i dont think KickAss is eviland nobody should watch it.
I actually think its more important for people to educate themselves about symbolism in general.Its how the corperations and movie makers advertise and manipulate society for making money for example.And the more we know about symbolism the less hidden themes bypass the conscious and get embeded in the unconscious.
Anyone seen "The Lovely Bones"?
somebody asked me the other night while chatting what thatwas about.
I didnt say anything at first..others pointed out it was about a kidnapping and murder of a child.but the person who asked me had also read the book so i was extra curious now.
For me that movie was also about ritual sacrifice.
If you watch the movie carefully its very very easy to spot the owl symbolism and i think there might of been some other things that spoke volumes.
My point is that person had watched the movie and read the book but had no idea or didnt even remember anything about owls.This is what i man about keeping an eye open for symbolism.Its there and there was no other reason to show an owl before the killing except that it was symbolic.
But i seem to be one of the few people i know personally that sees this often in movies.I still wonder if there was any mention of the owl statue ornament in the book.If not it means the director put the owl in as his own addition adding another layer to the story.If the book then i would say the idea was the writers originally.
Alot of movies i would imagine have an extra symbolic meaning on top of the books original.
ps sorry for my spelling and the broken spacebar! lol. also the owl represents Molok imo.the same one supposedly worshipped in Bavarian grove.0 -
Thing is about symbolism ... well for instance, the 'all seeing eye' did not originally have the negative connotations CTers give it these days, originally it was symbolic of spiritual awakening - much the same as 'Illuminati' originally meant 'enlightenment' and not a sinister secret society hell-bent on world domination, etc.
In fact the first (correct me if not accurate) historical mention of 'Illuminati' was in reference to a society of peaceful freethinkers who surfaced in 12th century Spain, 'Los Alumbrados', and later again in the 16th century, after being brutally suppressed by the Catholic Church.
Seems to me that yes, there are sinister organisations at work in the film industry, and in advertising, politics etc, who have taken or usurped otherwise benign and positive symbols for themselves. The swastika is a classic example. The serpent is another (as in kundalini). Symbols are only as good or as bad as the things they represent.
Subliminal messaging though, that's been proven to work and is a very serious subject, imo ... and must say again, i really did enjoy that Kick-Ass film! 0 -
Well i got a lend of it at last and watched it tonight.
Its not as good as i was expecting it to be considering the ratings it got.
For what its worth i didnt see anything throughout the movie that changes anything i have posted previously.
I still think all the same still applies and i saw more reason and messed up things on top of that.
It was stated in a conversation i think between Bigdaddy and his mate who is a cop that Big daddy made her new lifestyle into a game for her.
Later on when she is storming the hotel she uses nightvision goggles and the camera is used in a way that makes it look exactly like a game.Even with the view of the hand and the gun emptying clips and reloading reminded me so much of pc and xbox fps games.
Nobody saw that part?
Its bad enough what i saw in the trailers then i see the other side of it.
Glorified violence linked to games for a short time and at the end the poor girl is given a right beating a man stamping i think it was on her face,cant quite remember the detail.
In the end i am not offended by it in the slightest.
I just think its a terrible example for impressionable people.Some are less impressionable than others but to be honest i see people emulating films and tv so much these days why would this be any different.
If anyone is letting their kids or teenagers watch this and later finds them stamping on their little sisters face you know where it came from
Did nobody really find it strange that an 11 year old girl would make a joke about her version of the bat signal being a giant c%ck when asked how to get in touch?
Probably silly of me to ask that last question but il leave it in there as food for thought.
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Good point about age and maturity i think thats very true indeed.
Its unfortunate that most media these days promotes immaturity especially in 30-40 year range it seems to me.Going by movies anyway.
Well it was a good run and i guess i covered most of what i can with the actual effects especially in the earlier pages and advertising techniques.
I had planned on focusing on the effects and leaving the illuminatti symbolism till later.But upon watching the trailers and whole film i didnt see too much symbolism at all.
Kick Ass'es girl friend had a liking for butterflies but i would need a bit more than that to pin the tail on the donkey
So i guess for now there is no sign of illuminatti references.I only watched it once so it is easy to miss them when you are distracted.But it seems there wasnt a whole lot as i think i would have spotted them.
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WARNING this post is probably not suitable to be viewed by children/at work,as some of the video footage and discussion is of an adult nature and touches on some social taboo's.
In an age where pedophilia is still unacceptable to most i think it is important sometimes to be aware of the nature of the content society is soaking up.
I will be taking for granted that most viewing this will be aware that children and teenagers are much more likely to be influenced by movies and tv in general.Due to their curiousity and willingness to act out roles for fun.
I personally have experience of this as i used to as a child re enact fighting scenes or pretend to be something i had seen on tv.
This imo can carry on into late adult hood depending i think on how self aware people are,especially of their actions and the effect they have on others and their enviornment.
Heres an introduction to Hit-Girl (the original name for the movie but had to be changed.Ive read somewhere Hit-Girl is a word used in pedophile rings for a targeted girl,wiltry confirm that later if asked to,as google isnt helping me on that issue right now).
Warning this video contains bad language.
In that video above,id like people to notice some of the violent and sexual inuendos and comments in relation to this girl, her big daddy and other gansters she kills and maims.Also if bad language is still offensive to some people then it may be a little moreso from an 11 year old actress(at the time of filming).
The next clip is a short one of Big Daddy training his daughter Hit-Girl to be prepared for her later work.He is her mentor and father it appears and is important in her training.
Some excerpts from this scene.Id like people to read the vocal side of this scene before watching it to understand how double suggestion works and that while the video itself captures the conscious mind the vocal word(and also images too) can been seen in many lights by the subconscious i believe.You can argue with me on that one later.As subliminal suggestion would be involved in that topic.
Hitgirl: Daddy im scared.
Bigdaddy: Come on Mindy..honey.Be a big girl now,theres nothing to be afraid of.
Hitgirl: Is it gonna hurt bad?
Bigdaddy: Oh child.Only for a second sugar.(some dialog missing here for as irelevant to my point)
Hitgirl: I hate getting punched in the chest.
Bigdaddy: Your gonna be fine! babydoll......How was that? Not so bad? Kinda fun huh?....Now you know how it feels..you wont be scared when some chunky asshole pulls a glock.
Hitgirl: I wouldnt have been scared anyways.
Bigdaddy: Thats my girl.Ok up you get,two more rounds and then home.
Hitgirl: Again!?
Bigdaddy: aha.(as a yes tone)
Hitgirl: Only if i can go to the bowling alley on the way back..and iscream after(yes im aware of that spelling mistake,but i write it the way it sounds when pronounced on film).
Bigdaddy: uh..ok!...Two more rounds...No wincing,no whining....and you got yourself a deal young lady!
hitgirl: Yeah! Im gonna get hotfudge sunday.
Bigdaddy: Good call babydoll!
Question: Would you want your kids taking in this kind of suggestion?
Especially if its shown in a positive seemingly socially accepted light as its in a movie it must be acceptable on some level.This is my idea of the reflection of a persons internal subconscious thoughts.
So anyway i will let you make your own conclusions from the video.Its obvious what the directors etc ment the scene to mean from watching the video.But i have to wonder do they realise the effects this may have on kids subconsciously? Also adults too i might add.
Last video i promise for this post anyway :P
2:10 mins into it is a pretty vulgur phalic comment from the 11 year old which i thought relevant to this post.Mainly to ask, should an 11 year old character in any situation ever have carnel knowledge of this nature.
My summary and im guessing it might be longer than i ussually first imagine is as follows.
I posted this because i would like people to be aware of the suggestion that is being used in movies to degrade societies moral principals/standards.
There are CT's about this claiming its the zionists trying to degrade American society and i think there was a thread recently with info and a video from an ex russian spy or soemthign similar who explained how the need to destroy morals is part of the plan when taking over a country or state etc.
I am not here to discuss zionists as i think another thread can be more suitable.Maybe the Edward Norton one.
My worry is that movies like this could have an effect especially when the technique is carried on in many movies and cartoons that young people will be watching and i have shown how their guard will be down when watching tv many times when posting about the effects of tv in regards your critical thinking faculties amongs other things.
This movie looks like a tool that pedophiles might like to use for their/other kids to subtly(in this case not so much!) coerce their minds to be more open to the idea of everything that would entail.
Id like to refer you to the dialog i posted above of the second video for an example of what i mean.
To see the conspiracy that it is actually quite dominant in kids programming you will have to understand and research what i have been talking about in other movies and even kids programs.Programs and movies are a form of social programming if you consider the fact people do take in social activities of every kind they see on the tv and sometimes emulate it as a form of expression or for other reasons.
Do we want more kids to be expressing themsleves in this manor?
Do we want teenage males to associate this child Hit-Girl as a girl or symbol of a girl that they could hit on?
Do we want older males in the Nicholas Cage range to be having this relationship or even subconsciously ever consider it for their children or even those children around them that may fall under the category or reference as similar subconsciously.
These are the questions i would like people to consider and take away from this thread.I hope to protect a few more kids by trying to get through to their parents especially to be aware of pedophilia in general and that it is quite possible as ive shown and others too that the media can be a tool for pedophiles or imo even to create them as well as many other criminal activities purely by subtle suggestion when speaking to the subconscious.
To people who might be posting to support the movie industry or some of the people involved in making this film and many others.I will say i think the film itself as a comedy looks pretty funny in parts.Im sure the movie is enjoyabl and am not insinuating in this post that the director purposefully put in this content in such a manor as tocause the effects i described.
I will state now that i feel this is a possible consequence of material like this and wether it is being done on purpose in many movies, i leave up to each individual here.
So if nothing else catches anyones fancy comment wise il pose again the thread topic as a question.
Do you think Kick-Ass the movie is bad for your/others/kids health?
Ps. In case im accused of giving advice or anything.I am just asking questions.
Hi Torax. Seen this and thought of you.
http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/news/release/2010/1215.aspLOS ANGELES (December 15, 2010) – In a new report, the Parents Television Council™ details the nature and extent of Hollywood’s obsession with sexualizing teen girls. PTC’s report, Tinseltown’s New Target: A study of Teen Female Sexualization on Primetime TV, is based on a content analysis of the most popular primetime broadcast shows among 12 to 17-year-olds during the 2009-2010 TV season. To view PTC’s full report, visit: www.parentstv.org/sexualization.
PTC found that when underage female characters appear on screen: more sexual content is depicted; the teen girls show next to no negative response to being sexualized; more sexual incidents occur outside of any form of a committed relationship; and there is less accuracy in the TV content rating.
“The results from this report show Tinseltown’s eagerness to not only objectify and fetishize young girls, but to sexualize them in such a way that real teens are led to believe their sole value comes from their sexuality. This report is less about the shocking numbers that detail the sickness of early sexualization in our entertainment culture and more about the generation of young girls who are being told how society expects them to behave,” said PTC President Tim Winter.
“Storylines on the most popular shows among teens are sending the message to our daughters that being sexualized isn’t just acceptable, it should be sought after. It is outrageous that TV executives have made it their business to profit off of programs that depict teen girls blissfully being sexualized by casual partners and only showing disapproval for being sexualized five percent of the time.Major Findings:
• Underage female characters are shown participating in a higher percentage of sexual depictions compared to adults (47% and 29% respectively).
• Only 5% of the underage female characters communicated any form of dislike for being sexualized (excluding scenes depicting healthy sexuality).
• Out of all the sexualized female characters depicted in the underage and young adult category for the entire database, 86% were presented as only being of high school age.
• Seventy-five percent of shows that included sexualized underage female characters were shows that did not have an “S” descriptor to warn parents about the sexual content.
• Based upon a definition established by the American Psychological Association of “healthy” vs. “unhealthy” sexuality, the study findings show that 93% of the sexual incidents involving underage female characters occurred within a context that qualified as “unhealthy.”
• The data revealed that 98% of the sexual incidents involving underage female characters occurred outside of any form of a committed relationship.
• The data show that 73% of the underage sexualized incidents were presented in a humorous manner or as a punch line to a joke.0 -
Brown Bomber wrote: »
BB, just jumping in here quick now 4am style, but i seriously don't get it! There's nothing sexually attractive about that girl! And even if some people do find it sexually arousing in some way, surely they will find more ... 'satisfaction' in other (?) forms than a homicidal (fictional) character hell-bent on blood-lust revenge?
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Not sure if you're referring to me or not but no, I don't think you do. I'm sure others might but they're more easy to dismiss.Brown Bomber wrote: »I get the impression that you think that I think this is some masterplan by the eeh-loom-in-arty?
Nah. Just a dark side of capitalism. These producers, agents, artists etc are just parasites who rely on us being thick as **** consumers obsessed with materialism to line their own pockets, which we are, myself included.
As for this particular movie showing the darker side of capitalism, I would strongly disagree. There are plenty of examples out there, more-so found in the music and, to a lesser extent, TV industries, but this isn't one of them imo. I simply don't think an ordinary comic book artist from Glasgow had any intention of creating anything other than a dark and adult orientated superhero story when he wrote the comic.0 -
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Apologies for breaking my response up into so many pieces, you did make a good few points that I think should be responded too individually and which aren't strictly related.
You shouldn't because while changes were made between the two versions, those that were made were mainly positive in the sense that they were less depressing and more preposterous in a manner which reminded you it was a movie...just in case one was to need further reminding.I consider the comic and the movie to be seperate.Different people had control of the content of the movie over the comic.
The Doom movie had a similar section. It was also rated R/18 and was aimed at adults.Did you not find it strange in the movie, he did her point of view during one of her slaughter sessions like an fps shooter? i think there was even a health bar on the screen or amount of kills lol
It was totally made for teens and kids.
They were kids in the comics too and no, of course they weren't school friends.Even the main characters in the movie were teens or kids from the looks of it.Were they school friends too i wonder.
On a superficial level, they themselves when they were kids wanting to be a superhero. Dave fulfils that role quite well. With regards Hit-Girl, well I think the artist of the comics puts it best.Who are the characters the audience is supposed to relate to?
..except you know, this is an adult based superhero movie.Artist John Romita, Jr. commented about the character : "I think what's so badass is, how can a little girl become such a force? And I likened it to parents that turn their kids into super athletes. Even against their own will. They become unconscious athletes, almost to a fault. They become hardened. It kind of works the same way."
They act like comic book characters as they should.How do those characters act? That is what i look out for.
Not unless they were mentally ill in which case they shouldn't be seeing the movie. As a matter of interest, have you seen the Japanese movie Battle Royale?Do you not think gamers would relate very well to that killing scene that was done like a fps game?Except its done with a child instead and more realistic than most games.
Killing in the movies? Yes. But not in real life.Maybe since adults enjoy killing who are we to tell the kids they cant do it too?
This movie will have no affect on the next generation.I guess it depends how diffeent people like to see the next generations turn out.
Then you're advocating censorship.I dont consider an 18 rating good enough to stop kids from wanting to see it as i still believe its aimed at a younger audience than its rated for.
Prostituting how? Being in a movie? Being in a violent movie? Being in a movie and saying the word ****? Where do you draw the line?Well to be honest any movie with a child being prostituted for the guardians own fullfillment shouldnt be aired.We have enough sh1t messing up families and good will without this adding to the pile.
So they should just stay away from acting until they're 18?To be clear, when i say prostituted i mean... to put (oneself or one's talents) to a corrupt use for personal or financial gain.0 -
Thats too much sentences to respond to individually.But thanks for taking the time to do that yourself.
I will say that i know what your getting at.Its a comic and the characters act in the movie like its a comic situation.
It is quite unreal shooting your own daughter in the chest i admit.
I titled the thread is it bad for your health for this reason.
I believe we should have the right to express ourselves if it doesnt hurt others.
Others may chose not to watch this movie and others who are underage will undoubtedly watch it also.
I guess it just appears so childish compared to battle royale that its hard to imagine its not for the 15-20 age group.
Almost like a battle royale extreme but adapted for the younger audience...and that was mainly my gripe about the movie.Well also the dodgy references surrounding hit-girl.
A comic book is also quite easy to see its not real as its ussually drawn images.
The movie is much more realistic than a comic and this i believe should bring about a bit more responsibility with the people producing these.
If they were going to have a child using sexual references and killing people they should have made the movie less appealing to kids imo.
End of the day im not sayng censor it(check back through 10 pages to confirm).Im saying it could be bad for your mental health in my non expert opinion.It doesnt have to be censored for me to have my way i enjoy the discussion more than the movie itself.
One reason is that tv(and all connected media) influences society quite alot.This appears to be a bad influence for a younger than expected audience regardless of the rating.
Ps. i ment prostituting hit-girl in the movie to fulfill big daddy's agenda.But yes in general outside of the movies(and in) i would be a little disturbed to hear a 12 year old talking knowledgeably about c%^ks and other things of that nature.It might happen in real life but putting it out to the rest of the world to copy isnt exactly responsible programming.0 -
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This I find quite amusing actually as it seems to contradict what those opposed to violent video games say (i.e. video games are worse than movies because you're controlling the character on screen) yet disagrees with the opposing view that such content does not have an effect on kids since you're saying movies are worse.In answer to some quotes and comments you left also,
Of course it was more realistic than most games. It wasn't computer graphics, it was actual people acting. Big difference however is the fact that while watching the film, gamers aren't controlling it. They can't make any decisions. They are viewing the scene, not participating in it.
That is why i dont see the movie as being the same as the comic...Its much more of an effect than a comic or computer graphics,although the games are getting very realistic these days.
To go a step further i would dissagree also about participation.Any act you watch on tv you are participating in it on some level just by viewing it and entertaining the idea of what is being done.
I would say even more so if you associate well with the character.
With that said it makes the night vision goggles scene fit for everyone watching to associate with,again i would say more so if you are familiar with fps games.
As for your reply to my own piece, what part of the movie do you think showed evidence of mind control, NLP or propaganda? Or, to be more precise, what do you think they were trying to get across?0 -
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Yes i believe movies are more effective compared to games like fps ones for example.
Give the games another 10-20 years and maybe i will change my mind
Virtual reality might top them both by then lol
What i ment in mentioning nlp,propoganda,mind control etc was that i have seen in other articles,books etc etc how different media can have an effect on peoples perceptions.
The unconscious is supposedly able to pick up symbolism and subliminal images in the background(subliminal in that they are rather small,i dont mean flashed images.Although they still count too imo).
There is alot of smybolic acts in many movies that are unintentional and intentional.Its regardless to me at the end of the day as its the actual effect im interested in and that is hard to gage.
I can only go from what i have learned so far.
but from this movie if i was to keep in line with a conspiracy theory i would most likely steer towards the idea that the movie is used to make money ofc but maybe also to degrade society,much like the tactics that russian ex spy spoke about on another video posted somewhere else a good few months ago.He spoke about the tactics used to breakdown countries infastructure and society as a common purpose in the country.
Basically destroying the family unit.
This movie doesnt do that in one fowl swoop, but i do think it helps things along if that is the plan and if it was the plan we wouldnt exactly hear about it,especially if its to do with russian,israeli or chinese propoganda/spy agencies.
So theres a ct thrown in on top of my opinion(i dont commit to this ct but there it is for the sake of the thread and not unlikely either considering nwo ct's realating to conquering countries and continents to bring in global control of the chaos)
You may proceed to pick it apart for your entertainment hehe0
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