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English paper one

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  • 07-06-2010 9:02pm
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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭


    How are you guys set up for english paper one? I've got my essay learned off and I have to say I'm feeling pretty confident.


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    kev9100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    I wouldn't advise learning off an essay. If you try and manipulate the question too much for a pre-prepared answer you could lose a lot of marks.


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    ozzz
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭ozzz


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    How are you guys set up for english paper one? I've got my essay learned off and I have to say I'm feeling pretty confident.

    Not learning off any essays but other than im just gonna give it all. I was never with the whole idea of learning off essays.

    Paper 2 should be interesting :)


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    zam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭zam


    Yeah what does every plan on studying tomorrow night? I might do a few comprehensions for practice or something... Or perhaps just watch a film! It's totally studying when it's Paper 1 :)


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    highlydebased
    Registered Users Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    kev9100 wrote: »
    I wouldn't advise learning off an essay. If you try and manipulate the question too much for a pre-prepared answer you could lose a lot of marks.


    Indeed. Learning off essays is a very bad idea.


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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Neon-Circles wrote: »
    Indeed. Learning off essays is a very bad idea.
    My teacher is an examiner and he said that in the conferences he attends they tell them to allow even the slightest connection.


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    highlydebased
    Registered Users Posts: 7,469 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    My teacher is an examiner and he said that in the conferences he attends they tell them to allow even the slightest connection.

    It's still a very bad idea! :p:)


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    LovexxLife
    Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭LovexxLife


    ok, like you cant really study just practice a few comprehension, know the part B formats, and decide on what essay your doing.

    Paper 2 is another kettle of fish altogether!


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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Neon-Circles wrote: »
    It's still a very bad idea! :p:)
    I don't agree, especially if you've learned off a short story rather then a "real" essay.


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    lc2010
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭lc2010


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    My teacher is an examiner and he said that in the conferences he attends they tell them to allow even the slightest connection.

    Yeah but they also say if there is even the slightest bit of evidence of them being learned off, to dock marks.


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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    lc2010 wrote: »
    Yeah but they also say if there is even the slightest bit of evidence of them being learned off, to dock marks.
    What proof can there be ?


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    Feeky Magee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Feeky Magee


    My mate repeated his Leaving Cert last year and had the same learned-off essay for both years. Both A1s in English. I'm not learning one off, but that's purely down to laziness.


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    Sl!mCharles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭Sl!mCharles


    I never understood the point in learning an essay off for P1, but fair play is due for the enthusiasm


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    Alice10
    Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭Alice10


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    How are you guys set up for english paper one? I've got my essay learned off and I have to say I'm feeling pretty confident.

    I'm learning one off too.
    What essay have you learned off?
    Is it one you wrote yourself earlier on?


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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Alice10 wrote: »
    I'm learning one off too.
    What essay have you learned off?
    Is it one you wrote yourself earlier on?
    A short story.
    Yes, I've learnt it off myself.

    So essays aside how are you guys penned for the rest of the exam?


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    Shanotheslayer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    before my mocks i had just watched the film 21 ended up righting about that :pac:


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    fufureida
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    I might write a piece from a book. Depends, if the personal essay is easy to twist I will just go with the flow...

    I'm most worried about part bs... How long should they be...?


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    stainluss
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭stainluss


    When you guys learn off essays, do you mean short stories? Im guessing it would be hard to link it with Personal Essays?

    And when they say allow slight connections, surely they would still give you crap marks under 'P'...

    How do ye learn them off? Just keep writing them over and over?


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    fufureida
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭fufureida


    How many pages for part b???


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    Slugs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭Slugs


    fufureida wrote: »
    How many pages for part b???
    page and a half at most....


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    Finical
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    You will get found out if it's a learnt off essay. The examiner will know what standard of English you have by correcting your comprehension and question B part, in my opinion.

    Saying that I'm worried myself about paper 1, I will be going in with an open mind no essay learned off and I'm not even sure will I be doing a short story or personal essay. :confused:


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    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    fufureida wrote: »
    How many pages for part b???
    Lose the attitude.


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    #23
    Iwasfrozen
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    Finical wrote: »
    You will get found out if it's a learnt off essay. The examiner will know what standard of English you have by correcting your comprehension and question B part, in my opinion.

    Saying that I'm worried myself about paper 1, I will be going in with an open mind no essay learned off and I'm not even sure will I be doing a short story or personal essay. :confused:
    The examiner has to mark what is on the page. It's none of his business to start investigating. For all he knows you could just be a person who is very good at writing essays and nothing more.


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    Finical
    Registered Users Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    The examiner has to mark what is on the page. It's none of his business to start investigating. For all he knows you could just be a person who is very good at writing essays and nothing more.
    Yeah that's why I was just giving my opinion. I'm so bad at essays, sure I'd learn one off if I was half decent at writing them! :pac:


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    leavingcert
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭leavingcert


    Short stories are hard to mark for examiners and hardly ever get 100%

    Im going to go with a speech myself as i've done hundreds of them! :P


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    leavingcert
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭leavingcert


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    The examiner has to mark what is on the page. It's none of his business to start investigating. For all he knows you could just be a person who is very good at writing essays and nothing more.


    If they know the story or what ever they can actually mark down, not completely down but you might only get 75, so my teacher said and she's a corrector


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    Mark2006
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    General Vision and Viewpoint has not come up since 2007, i'd bank on that.
    :)


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    NotExactly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    Slugs wrote: »
    page and a half at most....

    2 pages if you want to get close to 50 marks!:D


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    Compton
    Registered Users Posts: 3,157 ✭✭✭Compton


    Ah yeah I'd write 2 pages for a part B it's worth the same as the poetry!! The SEC have to sort themselves out, thats a joke!

    Oh, and I hope G.V.V comes up!


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    stainluss
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭stainluss


    I usually do personal essays and get 70%, would i do better to learn a short story?


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    Melena
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭Melena


    english paper one...where my bull****ting talents finally come into action! should be fun!


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