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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Corsendonk wrote: »
    I wouldn't have been a bit surprised if they still demanded a share of the 100,000 if the route was changed away from Rush.

    Why not claim some of the money Rush has been ignored for long enough and again it was just the choosen route when there was a cheaper alternative.
    Surely as a point of principle, no one who has objected to this route could have anything to do with these grants.
    The re-route campaign made their case and lost, why would this stop them putting in a claim for some projects for the town? The projects are for the benefit of the whole town and if you or me or anyone else is not happy we should go to the next A.G.M and vote them out.
    dan_d wrote: »
    I think the problems on Rush's main street are very little to do with Eirgrid! The entire road needs replacing since the snow. In fact, as soon as Eirgrid are finished I'll be writing to Fingal County Council on the subject.As for the ramps......oh, those ramps....:mad:

    I agree the roads were in a bad state to start with but some the places where work was done the fresh tar is already a few MM below the rest of the road. The ramps!!!! Ah its just crazy the way they have been let disintegrate. It makes the place look really shabby


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Spidermany wrote: »
    I attended a public meeting in Rush NS where James Reilly stated that when Fine Gael are in power that Eirgrid will not be going through the town.

    I've since heard that he's changed his position, but I can't find any support to this.

    Has anyone any valid links to indicate a change of mind on his part? I have emailed him, but of course he hasn't replied (not surprising bearing in mind the week that's in it).

    Thanks

    he was probably speaking his own mind at the time if he did say it but maybe he now realises he has to toe the party line which is probably in favour of the project.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    LeoB wrote: »
    The re-route campaign made their case and lost, why would this stop them putting in a claim for some projects for the town? .

    On principle perhaps?

    It's just seems a bit hypocritical to me looking for a handout off people you believe are going to cause the death of your children.


  • Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭Luttrell1975


    On principle perhaps?

    It's just seems a bit hypocritical to me looking for a handout off people you believe are going to cause the death of your children.

    If you think Rush has been ignored you should try living in other places that really have been ignored. That said you are right to get whatever money you can for your town. No politician's promise is going to be worth *71t once they get elected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Spidermany wrote: »
    I attended a public meeting in Rush NS where James Reilly stated that when Fine Gael are in power that Eirgrid will not be going through the town.

    I've since heard that he's changed his position, but I can't find any support to this.

    Has anyone any valid links to indicate a change of mind on his part? I have emailed him, but of course he hasn't replied (not surprising bearing in mind the week that's in it).

    Thanks

    If it ain't wrote down it ain't worth nothing. There was something on the Rush Facebook page that he is awaiting Kema report. Surprisely the guy most against the cable on there doesn't live on the route but it must make a nice hobby I suppose.

    I would just like to point out that the "Doctor" is a GP and anyone that has followed the MMR vaccine debacle in the UK will be aware of the damage a GP can cause when they get evolved in science areas that they have a limited knowledge of.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭LeoB


    On principle perhaps?

    It's just seems a bit hypocritical to me looking for a handout off people you believe are going to cause the death of your children.

    As a man I worked with used to say at Union meetings, Principles are not much good in a shroud.
    I dont see anything hypocritical at all here There has been an often heated debate on this subject and from my point of view the debate came to an end the day the diggers moved in. As in a lot of things there are rows and debates and people move on, look at some of the s*1t thrown about in the past few weeks by political leaders in the various debates yet they will now gladly do business so Rush people are quite right to claim all they can for the benefit of the townspeople.
    Its not a handout its a grant and I would imagine the criteria is quite strict.
    If you think Rush has been ignored you should try living in other places that really have been ignored. That said you are right to get whatever money you can for your town. No politician's promise is going to be worth *71t once they get elected.

    There is no doubting Rush has been ignored. Disgracefully so for decades and in some part we were to blame for letting it happen with different factions within the town going in different directions just to be awkward. Thankfully this appears to be over and progress is now being made and some civic pride restored to th Rush.

    Its like the point being made in the general election thread, we were entitled to a lot of things but screwed over as the politicans just simply ignored us in favour of their own patch.

    If your area is being screwed over make a stand, form a committee and tackle the councillors and T.Ds


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭SeaSide


    Just as a curiosity did anyone look at getting a fibre link from the cable into St Joseph's? From memory there will be a several fibres in the cable and shouldn't be too hard to breakout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    SeaSide wrote: »
    Just as a curiosity did anyone look at getting a fibre link from the cable into St Joseph's? From memory there will be a several fibres in the cable and shouldn't be too hard to breakout.

    From the Eirgrid cable or the new internet cable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭SeaSide


    From Eirgrid.

    Don't think there is going to be any other fibre in Rush for a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    SeaSide wrote: »
    From Eirgrid.

    Don't think there is going to be any other fibre in Rush for a while

    Why would you want that? Does the school use major amounts of electricity for some secret purpose that it would need to tap into such a major source and build a power plant to convert the current.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,775 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    SeaSide wrote: »
    Just as a curiosity did anyone look at getting a fibre link from the cable into St Joseph's? From memory there will be a several fibres in the cable and shouldn't be too hard to breakout.
    I'm confused...
    The Eirgrid cable is for electricity transmission.
    Any fibre cable will be for data & voice communications.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭SeaSide


    under section 2

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Foreshore/ApplicationsandDeterminations/EirgridPlc/ApplicationDetails/FileDownLoad,24719,en.pdf

    The ESB has fibre wraps around high tension cables.

    The fibres on the interconnector are most likely to be in the middle of the electricity cable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    SeaSide wrote: »
    under section 2

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Foreshore/ApplicationsandDeterminations/EirgridPlc/ApplicationDetails/FileDownLoad,24719,en.pdf

    The ESB has fibre wraps around high tension cables.

    The fibres on the interconnector are most likely to be in the middle of the electricity cable

    Ok but whats the justification to link St Josephs to the Eirgrid cable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    The fibre in cables is used for communicating between the substations at either end and not for commercial purposes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭SeaSide




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    SeaSide wrote: »

    Makes sense, is that a second cable?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Has that digger floating in the middle of the sea(sounds as surreal as it looks) got anything to do with Eirgrid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    Yes.
    :D
    Everything to do with Eirgrid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    It actually looks like an Oil Rig at night when its all lit up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    True. Haven't seen it up close, and not entirely sure of the detail of what they're doing, but I'd imagine they're bringing the cable into the shore.

    I'd also think that it's annoying for anyone living along there, because it's very brightly lit at night. But it probably won't be there for too long.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    It actually looks like an Oil Rig at night when its all lit up.

    Pics?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    I have been critical about Clare Daly in the past but in fairness she went to the trouble of raising an official question with the Minister in the Dail last week in relation to moving the cable route.

    http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2011-05-12.308.0&s=speaker%3A321#g309.0


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    No means of taking one. It really is just a barge with one of these fitted onto it.

    cat_excavator.jpg

    edit: Very very like this one

    dredging_ships.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Corsendonk wrote: »
    I have been critical about Clare Daly in the past but in fairness she went to the trouble of raising an official question with the Minister in the Dail last week in relation to moving the cable route.

    http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2011-05-12.308.0&s=speaker%3A321#g309.0


    Isn't the ducting already in?

    It would cost a lot of money to go back and move the route. Who's going to pay for that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    Isn't the ducting already in?

    It would cost a lot of money to go back and move the route. Who's going to pay for that?


    Pay!, this is the Socialist Party so pick any of the below.
    • Bondholders
    • EU
    • IMF
    • ECB
    • Queen of England
    • All Irish Taxpayers except in Rush


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Spidermany


    Firstly - "I have been unable to find any colleagues who gave any such undertakings before or since the election."

    Maybe Pat Rabbitte should try asking James Reilly (it was him!!).

    What happened to a gentleman's word being his bond. I'm sick to my back teeth of people making promises and then not keeping them. If James Reilly has changed his mind surely it's time he had the b**ls to admit it publically.

    Secondly - Eirgrid agreed to put the ducting in but no cable until the Kema safety report was completed.

    What are the odds that they'll keep that promise??

    Why am I being naive enough to actually hope that they will?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Spidermany wrote: »
    Why am I being naive enough to actually hope that they will?

    The ducting is complete. I cut through the North beach on the way home last night and they have two or three excavators(one of which is massive) clearing ground in preparation for another dig. The whole area is fenced off with a security guard strolling around inside it. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they're about to bring the pipe in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭waraf


    SeaSide wrote: »

    700Gb broadband. I want that. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Spidermany wrote: »
    Firstly - "I have been unable to find any colleagues who gave any such undertakings before or since the election."

    Maybe Pat Rabbitte should try asking James Reilly (it was him!!).

    What happened to a gentleman's word being his bond. I'm sick to my back teeth of people making promises and then not keeping them. If James Reilly has changed his mind surely it's time he had the b**ls to admit it publically.

    Secondly - Eirgrid agreed to put the ducting in but no cable until the Kema safety report was completed.

    What are the odds that they'll keep that promise??

    Why am I being naive enough to actually hope that they will?

    If I am reading your post correctly, I think your post points out why so many objected to the route. A gentlemans agreement in Irish politics! Thats about as rare as Mrs Windsor visiting Croke Park.

    Do you believe Eirgrid? I dont and felt from a long time back that we were being told only what they wanted us to hear..

    I think if we had full and open information on this the work would be completed now but the drip feed only fuelled suspicion.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Here we go. I went routing and found some old batteries with an ounce of life in them. I also just realised the digital camera has.. wait for it.. digital zoom.

    If I find the time and battery life provides I'll head over to the North Beach tomorrow morning to get some snaps of what's going on there.

    And sure while I'm in the mood I'll get one when it's all lit up in an hour or so.

    It's still hard at work. The water musn't be very deep out there because it's still reaching the sea bed without much of a stretch.


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