How is Obama Destroying America

Overheal

Friend, have you heard of gmail, or google docs? The times man. The times :pac:

rovert

I thought he was the type to have a RSS feed alerting him when America was destroyed.

Amerika

rovert wrote: »

I thought he was the type to have a RSS feed alerting him when America was destroyed.

Na, that's what I got you guys for.

Ya'll still utilize usenet, don't you?


And for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedded#!

(Try and get the song out of your head after listening to it. Why do I see Obama getting a Grammy for this? Only in America!)

BluePlanet

So in the World According to AmeriKa, the proof that Obama is destroying America is the number of google hits?

Pathetic.

Is it possible that AmeriKa is aka Pocono Joe, putting on his best manners?

rickymaccullum

Why you blaming Obama. All us Presidents from History to till date did same thing with US. The biggest thing every American Ignoring.
I am asking to everybody why obama Giving millions dollars to Pakistan. At one side whole world knows Pakistan is the biggest Hub of Terrorism and at other side US giving to much Money and Indirectly helping them.




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Debt

Amerika

The voters gave the Democrats a chance to run government. Unfortunately they’ve only run it into the ground. The voters will change all that this November. But unlike the Republicans (when control of congress went over to the Democrats), the Democrats WILL take the country down along with themselves.

Huh??? you might ask.

Neither the US Senate or the House of Representatives (Congress) has adopted a budget resolution, and none of the appropriations bills have cleared any subcommittee (The first time since 1974).

Why??? You might ask.

Because it would be political suicide before the November election with their massive spending, tax hikes, and crippling legislation proposals we have yet to see.

I will quote probably one of the most poignant statements you will read all of this year:
“A lame-duck session would offer a last-gasp chance to enact some form of carbon tax, energy tax, cap-and-trade, or requirement that utilities must use politically-correct wind or solar power rather than more consumer-affordable fossil fuels. Or card-check measures. Or the Employee Non-Discrimination Act. Or any of a multitude of provisions that now cannot pass on their own but could be stuffed into a massive last-gasp hard-to-stop appropriations omnibus.”

And lets not forget legislation to nationalize the Undocumented Democrats, or legislation to enact a VAT.

I agree with the statement: “Any major decision that they’re not willing to make before the election is one they should not be permitted to make afterwards.” But with Democrats in control of congress, it will never happen.

Then again, there is always Tar and Feathers.

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/06/10/beware-the-lame-ducks/


Please note: The above is only my opinion on what will happen to America this year by the hands of Obama and his Democrats (Which will become fact, but you will have to wait until November to see for yourself )

Denerick

I hope Obama's first move in a future socialist fascist state is to make Amerika emigrate to Cuba.

Amerika

Denerick wrote: »

I hope Obama's first move in a future socialist fascist state is to make Amerika emigrate to Cuba.

You mean South Washington?

jank

http://www.economist.com/node/16321546

A bit of realism is needed.

Manic Moran

Mort Zuckerman laid into Obama this week.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/opinion/2010/06/18/mort-zuckerman-world-sees-obama-as-incompetent-and-amateur.html.

World Sees Obama as Incompetent and Amateur
The president is well-intentioned but can't walk the walk on the world stage

Merkel seems to have given him a bit of a slap as well.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a910dcb6b4dfcd94d6b8c5e432a9465f.571&show_article=1

Merkel signals G20 clash with Obama on finance

Obama's still on the stimulus spending thing, Merkel's saying they need to reign in the budget.

I'm on the Merkel side right now. Greece should have been some time ago.

NTM

jank

So those Nazi's are telling Obama what to do?
How will Glenn Beck respond. Dammed if he does dammed if he doesnt I guess.

And that Zuckerman peice..

We also benefit from the fact that most countries distrust the United States far less than they distrust one another, so we uniquely have the power to build coalitions. As a result, most of the world still looks to Washington for help in their region and protection against potential regional threats.

Sorry but WTF? Countries dont trust the US as far as they could throw them they only side with them when its in their own interests for trade and security. Nothing to do with trust. Someone should tell Zuckerman that the CIA are not fiction.

Amerika

Just announced… NO BUDGET FOR 2011! (Well, what do you expect with the mid-term elections coming up?) I guess the administration doesn’t want any more reasons out there for people to throw even more Democrats out of office and/or for the people to put more fiscal responsible candidates into office. Guess it’s just another case of Democrats putting politics above public interest? (Wonder how fast they can get that amnesty thing done for the millions upon millions of Undocumented Democrats here illegally?) Be afraid, be very afraid!

http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/104635-dems-wont-pass-budget

Jonny7

Amerika wrote: »

Just announced… NO BUDGET FOR 2011! (Well, what do you expect with the mid-term elections coming up?) I guess the administration doesn’t want any more reasons out there for people to throw even more Democrats out of office and/or for the people to put more fiscal responsible candidates into office. Guess it’s just another case of Democrats putting politics above public interest? (Wonder how fast they can get that amnesty thing done for the millions upon millions of Undocumented Democrats here illegally?) Be afraid, be very afraid!

http://gopleader.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=191653
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/104635-dems-wont-pass-budget

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Manic Moran

So those Nazi's are telling Obama what to do?

Not just the Germans. (Nazis?!), and it's not so much telling him what to do, as much as telling him 'we'll do our own thing, thank you for your advice though'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10429446.stm

The group of 20 leading and emerging nations had been split over the pace of budget cuts.

US President Barack Obama warned against fast and deep budget cuts, fearing damage to global growth.

But European members, including the UK, France, and Germany, have already led moves to slash record public deficits, despite opposition from the United States which is expected to run a $1.3tn deficit in 2010.

NTM

Overheal

Jonny7 wrote: »

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Ask him about agriculture.

Iwasfrozen

Jonny7 wrote: »

There's a guy on the christian board who has been internet arguing for over a year (thousands of posts in it) that the earth was created literally according to the bible, 6000 years and all, this guy is taking on evolution, plate tectonics, red-shift, carbon dating, everything, the whole shibang, all by himself.. and he's actually doing a pretty good job.

Why?

Is it because he's..

a) right

or

b) one unshakeable determined guy with tons of free time and pages upon pages of facts and figures

I could use some other words to describe the guy but I won't

Do you have a link?

PopeUrbanII

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

Denerick

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

Lol. Is a crusade in order?

PC is a social construct that is constantly circumvented and violated. But lets be frank, PC is a good innovation as it is not centrally enforced by any legislation, it is a social consensus, not a political one. I'm glad its not appropriate for white people to refer to black people as Ns...

rovert

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Obama is shrouded in the most dangerous kind of PC. It has made him untouchable and unstoppable. If America is to survive, it must willfully abandon PC, almost with a vengeance. Political Correctness has given Obama the power to destroy America, literally.

Do you have a newsletter?

PopeUrbanII

Denerick wrote: »

Lol. Is a crusade in order?

PC is a social construct that is constantly circumvented and violated. But lets be frank, PC is a good innovation as it is not centrally enforced by any legislation, it is a social consensus, not a political one. I'm glad its not appropriate for white people to refer to black people as Ns...

Crusades? No -- Christian cultural renewal, that's all. Political Correctness is generally bad, because it's the product and enforcer of mandatory, Leftist group-thought. It directly militates against freedom of speech.

PopeUrbanII

rovert wrote: »

Do you have a newsletter?

Look at my profile.

PopeUrbanII

Amerika wrote: »

Here is little humor for you to add to your post, then it won't sound so pathetic.

Awsome, Hound. Awsome.

Overheal

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Look at my profile.

http://www.horstveckner.com/

Summary of
Major H. von Dach’s Total Resistance,
by Nathaniel Cross, Deputy, C.R.A.

In 1965, Swiss Army strategist Major Hans von Dach wrote Total Resistance, a masterpiece of patriotic guerrilla warfare. He wrote the book to prepare his fellow countrymen to resist Soviet invasion and occupation, at the height of the Cold War. In as much as the work is seminal in its guerrilla warfare instruction, and uniquely inspiring, in its call to patriotic resistance against Communism, it warrants extensive examination on the part of the Western Christian Warrior. What follow are the work’s main points:

Example Axioms:

1. Start with small operations. Gradually build up to large ones. Use creative leadership.
2. The local resistance movement serves the guerrilla force, especially by providing spies and observers, and by establishing a security perimeter.
3. Primary combat methods of the guerrilla force: ambushes, raids, bombings, executions, assassinations, sabotage
4. Attack when your force is strong. Otherwise, split up and hide.
5. Attack enemy weaknesses.
6. Counter-attack when the enemy thinks it’s over.
7. Conceal points of departure and re-entry, and destination.
8. Only travel at night.
9. Project strength, when possible.
10. Use closed formations.
11. During daytime movement, post air observers.
12. At night, establish two ambushes along all enemy avenues of approach.
13. Air-mobile units (helicopter-deployed) are a tremendous threat.
14. Designate, every day, a rally point, if the guerrilla force is attacked.
15. Booby-trap roadblocks, or at least emplace fake booby-traps, to slow down enemy movement.

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NOW

Is it your intention to launch and organize a domestic insurgency?

Obama was Democratically Elected. As was GWB. And GWB is the one who made it legal to mark Anyone as an Enemy Combatant; Americans being no exception.

Is it wise to both begin an insurgency against a democratically elected administration, and at the same time do so against one that, if it came down to armed conflict as your Profile Link suggests it will - it will wind up with you versus the Military?

We won't even get into Assassinations methinks, or entertain the details thereof*. But I am curious for an answer on this. Has the Christian Right reach such a hysteria that is willing to go down that road?

*But I will ask, if you plan on killing President Obama, would you really want Joe Biden sworn in?!

Don't get me wrong, I advocate Gun Rights on this very Principle. But, this is not an Invasion, nor an Illegitimate Government: both are among the few reasons I would think it appropriate to instigate insurrection or a coup d'etait.

rovert

Overheal wrote: »

http://www.horstveckner.com/



Is it your intention to launch and organize a domestic insurgency?

Course not:

NOTICE: This site does not advocate violence. It speaks of it, however, as a historical inevitability.

:pac:

Overheal

Meh, good enough for me. Actually. I'm more than happy to have a dialog.

PopeUrbanII

"Is it your intention to launch and organize a domestic insurgency?"

Only if and when Obama's Communist coup achieves dictatorship, and suspends the U.S. Constitution. Then, it's all on.

Obama was Democratically Elected. As was GWB. And GWB is the one who made it legal to mark Anyone as an Enemy Combatant; Americans being no exception.

Indeed, Obama was elected, but immediately began to attempt a coup de etat against The People. Obama's destroying the democracy that put him in charge. He's not allowed to do that. No man is above the U.S. Constitution.

Is it wise to both begin an insurgency against a democratically elected administration, and at the same time do so against one that, if it came down to armed conflict as your Profile Link suggests it will - it will wind up with you versus the Military?

Again, if and when Obama suspends the Constitution, he will no longer be the legitimate leader of America. Much of the U.S. military will desert, and not fight for a dictator.

We won't even get into Assassinations methinks, or entertain the details thereof*. But I am curious for an answer on this. Has the Christian Right reach such a hysteria that is willing to go down that road?

The Christian Right is furious, but silent. I imagine it's scared to death of PC, and still wounded from its days of backing GWB.

*But I will ask, if you plan on killing President Obama, would you really want Joe Biden sworn in?!

I could go to prison just by answering that.;)

Don't get me wrong, I advocate Gun Rights on this very Principle. But, this is not an Invasion, nor an Illegitimate Government: both are among the few reasons I would think it appropriate to instigate insurrection or a coup d'etait.

Have you heard of the Cloward-Piven Strategy? Look it up. I believe that's what Obama's trying to implement, to destroy America. It's a gradual process. Thanks for your research. I appreciate it.

amacachi

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

"Is it your intention to launch and organize a domestic insurgency?"

Only if and when Obama's Communist coup achieves dictatorship, and suspends the U.S. Constitution. Then, it's all on.

Obama was Democratically Elected. As was GWB. And GWB is the one who made it legal to mark Anyone as an Enemy Combatant; Americans being no exception.

Indeed, Obama was elected, but immediately began to attempt a coup de etat against The People. Obama's destroying the democracy that put him in charge. He's not allowed to do that. No man is above the U.S. Constitution.

Is it wise to both begin an insurgency against a democratically elected administration, and at the same time do so against one that, if it came down to armed conflict as your Profile Link suggests it will - it will wind up with you versus the Military?

Again, if and when Obama suspends the Constitution, he will no longer be the legitimate leader of America. Much of the U.S. military will desert, and not fight for a dictator.

We won't even get into Assassinations methinks, or entertain the details thereof*. But I am curious for an answer on this. Has the Christian Right reach such a hysteria that is willing to go down that road?

The Christian Right is furious, but silent. I imagine it's scared to death of PC, and still wounded from its days of backing GWB.

*But I will ask, if you plan on killing President Obama, would you really want Joe Biden sworn in?!

I could go to prison just by answering that.;)

Don't get me wrong, I advocate Gun Rights on this very Principle. But, this is not an Invasion, nor an Illegitimate Government: both are among the few reasons I would think it appropriate to instigate insurrection or a coup d'etait.

Have you heard of the Cloward-Piven Strategy? Look it up. I believe that's what Obama's trying to implement, to destroy America. It's a gradual process. Thanks for your research. I appreciate it.

ROFLOL.

Killer Wench

I'm Black. I'm from Illinois. I graduated from Law School. I have met Obama on a few occasion prior to him being elected as President. I have strong personal opinions about him that are based upon my personal perspective of having met him and knowing people who were members of his Chicago community. I chose not to vote for Obama; however, he was democratically elected by the citizens of my country and I have found myself appreciating this politician more in the past year.

From my personal perspective, I believe much of the fear that Obama is destroying the country is rooted in the age old stereotype of the threatening Black man; there are stories shared by my friends and other members of the Black community that involve single women crossing the street as a Black man walks down the street. We could look back to the times of 30s and 40s when Black men were lynched for the perceived insults and sexual aggressiveness towards non-Black women. The men were killed because the men-folk needed to protect the virtue of their daughters, sisters and wives; so they took back control by implementing a society based upon fear and intimidation.

Fast forward to 2010 and we have a Black male serving as the leader of our country; I have heard many tea-party members make statements such as "we need to take back our country". From whom, I ask. It isn't that Obama is leading this country down a road of fiscal irresponsibility; we have been on that track for generations, and judging from the comments from people who are adamant about not giving up their social security, we will continue to be on this track. The cost of supporting one soldier in Afghanistan for a year is $1 million yet our military spending has essentially not changed.

Hearing people shout about taking back America reminds of those stories of Klan members who lynched Black men. I truly do believe that in the hidden parts of their hearts, they are afraid of being in a position where a Black man holds power of them. It is an attempt to put him back into his place and eliminate the threat of progress.

Overheal

PopeUrbanII wrote: »

Only if and when Obama's Communist coup achieves dictatorship, and suspends the U.S. Constitution. Then, it's all on.

that would require Obama to actually have a Communist Coup. And even then achieving Dictatorship would be quite difficult from my understanding. Impeachment processes already exist for that very reasons and it would take nothing short of Military Loyalty for the white House to overthrow the House and Senate. Otherwise the Senate and House if I'm not mistaken would take command authority of the Military. In the event that the Democratic Supermajority tried to take over? Well I'm sure you're quite right; I imagine the Military would assume allegiance to the GOP until order could be restored.

Still I think these are all extreme Hypothetical situations, and I'm no Tom Clancy nor expert on the subject.

Indeed, Obama was elected, but immediately began to attempt a coup de etat against The People. Obama's destroying the democracy that put him in charge. He's not allowed to do that. No man is above the U.S. Constitution.

I've seen nothing from the White House in the last 10 - let alone 20 years, that fits the definition. I wager in fact that no such thing has happened in the Country's History but I admit I would be ignorant about Centuries Past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

Again, if and when Obama suspends the Constitution, he will no longer be the legitimate leader of America. Much of the U.S. military will desert, and not fight for a dictator.

Correct, they would. In fact I feel like sometimes theres so many redundancies in our system of government that thwart exactly that, that it's a non-concern for the average citizen/militiamen. Admittedly, we've made a living out of both installing and overthrowing dictatorships so I should hope we're experts on the subject. As such I think the risk of a Dictatorship forming is extremely low.

The closes I ever felt that illegitimacy would happen was at the end of Bush's term. My concern was Bush would use the War on Terror to artificially - though by definition legally - extend his term indefinitely. But alas, he did not.

The Christian Right is furious, but silent. I imagine it's scared to death of PC, and still wounded from its days of backing GWB.

I really don't think they've been silent. The Tea Party Movement, Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc. etc. could all be swept into the same Christian Fury.

I could go to prison just by answering that.;)

Quite.

Have you heard of the Cloward-Piven Strategy? Look it up. I believe that's what Obama's trying to implement, to destroy America. It's a gradual process. Thanks for your research. I appreciate it.

Implementing a Dole system like that of Ireland would - yes, in my opinion, be a grievous mistake. But as I've learned over the years, this would not be a Destruction of the Country, nor would it be Unconstitutional, or legitimate grounds for a coup. Arguably, we could also say that the use of Guantanamo as a terrorist detention facility only serves to destroy the country. But then again, with Gitmo theres a lot more happening there that would be considered morally, ethically, and legally questionable.

I think before this thread goes any further I think I should ask the Right here what they would define as the Country's Destruction. For me this would be nothing short of the Absolution of the Government and the Abandonment of the Constitution, and of course goes as far as Nuclear Holocaust (:p) but I haven't seen it happening.

Denerick

What is Obama's grand plan? What does he do when he rounds up Beck, Limbaugh, Robertson into a concentration camp (A not unpalatable prospect, by any means ) I'm curious about where he goes once he suspends the US constitution, achieves the support of the army, and locks down all of the Red States under martial law? What is the endgame? What does he want to do? What kind of communist system will he introduce? Will there be patriotic pictures and statues of Obama in every street corner?

Man, I can't wait for the communist revolution in America. It would put me in mind to start one over here. Now all I need is:

*To be elected by a plurality of the Irish people
*A charming mixed race background that by its very existence re-affirms all that is positive about the American Dream.
*A Supreme Court that is majority Democrat (Oh wait)
*A military hierarchy that is majority Democrat (Oh wait)
*A loyal political elite who will swear allegiance to my dictatorship (Oh wait)
*I need to bail out massive companies and refuse to raise taxes.
*I need to introduce a communist health system that re-inforces and greatly improves the profits of private health providers.
*I need to send more troops to Afghanistan.
*I need to abolish Bushes faith based initiatives programme (Oh wait)

I think we get the idea here...