Dyno Day - 26th june - Urban performance

Armin_Tamzarian

Here's another question.
Before putting your car on the Dyno do you have to sign a disclaimer against say engine / transmission damage caused to the car during testing?
Presumably such a disclaimer wouldn't apply to damage caused by the Dyno spitting your car out through a wall?
Must admit though, I've never heard of a car coming off a Dyno, anyone heard of it happening?

Graham_B18C

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Here's another question.
Before putting your car on the Dyno do you have to sign a disclaimer against say engine / transmission damage caused to the car during testing?
Presumably such a disclaimer wouldn't apply to damage caused by the Dyno spitting your car out through a wall?
Must admit though, I've never heard of a car coming off a Dyno, anyone heard of it happening?

A disclaimer had to be signed yeah, but I can't imagine you'd be out of pocket if the dyno was at fault. You'd have to ask beforehand to be sure though

5500

I've seen other high power rwd car's on both dynodynamics and other rolling roads stepping up on the rollers like in the video, it doesnt seem out of the norm just more apparent on a 2wd dyno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO642vDlVs4

Matt Simis

eireal wrote: »

I've seen other high power rwd car's on both dynodynamics and other rolling roads stepping up on the rollers like in the video, it doesnt seem out of the norm just more apparent on a 2wd dyno

Thats basically what I found too.

SV

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Here's another question.
Before putting your car on the Dyno do you have to sign a disclaimer against say engine / transmission damage caused to the car during testing?
Presumably such a disclaimer wouldn't apply to damage caused by the Dyno spitting your car out through a wall?
Must admit though, I've never heard of a car coming off a Dyno, anyone heard of it happening?

there's a few videos of cars coming off dynos sideways, never seen one actually let go completely though

Vertakill

eireal wrote: »

I've seen other high power rwd car's on both dynodynamics and other rolling roads stepping up on the rollers like in the video, it doesnt seem out of the norm just more apparent on a 2wd dyno

Yep me too. It's what was stuck in my head before I ever went to a dyno.

SV wrote: »

there's a few videos of cars coming off dynos sideways, never seen one actually let go completely though

Yeah I seen a good few but they all seemed to be tied down from multiple points rather than just the back!

urban per4mance

Hi Guys

firstly thank you all for attending on saturday,

just to put your minds at rest, it is quite normal for high hp rwd cars to "climb" on the dyno dynamics, in fact we tie it down with that in mind, i suppose if you were to wacth us test more high hp you would realise that it was no accident how high the car climbed & why none of the staff were suprised, its something we are very well rehearsed in.
I completely understand your sceptisism though as my own reaction was similar the first time i saw it, and its even more disconcerting when you're in the drivers seat lol when i bought the dyno, dyno dynamics top man Mike Gurney came over to give me 2 days intensive instruction. We've been operating the dyno for just over 12months now with no problems!

the bridle like bar you see at the back of the dyno has 4 rathcet straps, (there are also 2 additional on the sides ot he machine) 2 of the 4 run underneath & come up through the machine, these are generally attached to the lower wishbone, on a fwd vehicle we ratchet these straps tight but on a high hp rwd we leave a "measured climb". the other 2 straps are aptly called the "climber straps" (these are not used on a fwd vehicle).these run under the bar & attach to the car, we leave a measured amount of slack in order for the car to climb onto the measuring wheel.

the wheel that does the test is the wheel that the rwd cars rise on, on the fwd's we ratchet tight to ensure it keeps contact with it.

i hope this helps

antokwon

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I only have the red Type R and the other red Honda coupe, who owns what?

hey the red prelude is mine any chance in seeing the video???

Midnight_EG

Jeeze, I only said it to ya 2 hours ago and ya come on and put everyones minds at rest! Good man :P

And that GTI was something!!

Atomic Pineapple

urban per4mance wrote: »

Hi Guys

firstly thank you all for attending on saturday,

Thanks for having us, was impressed with the dyno dynamics and was a well run setup, hopefully we can get another day organised with more cars in the future

antokwon wrote: »

hey the red prelude is mine any chance in seeing the video???

Welcome along

antokwon

draffodx wrote: »

Thanks for having us, was impressed with the dyno dynamics and was a well run setup, hopefully we can get another day organised with more cars in the future



Welcome along

thanks mate, just said id see what all the fuss was about and get involved ha , was a great day on the dyno even tho i was worse for wear after my birthday party te night before haha

Voodoomelon

antokwon wrote: »

hey the red prelude is mine any chance in seeing the video???

Hey, welcome to forums. No problem, i'll try and get it up by Friday evening and i'll post it on here.

antokwon

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Hey, welcome to forums. No problem, i'll try and get it up by Friday evening and i'll post it on here.

thanks a million mate hope everyone was happy with the figures!!! we got a good turn out for the day!

Gary ITR

urban per4mance wrote: »

Hi Guys

firstly thank you all for attending on saturday,

Welcome to the forum, thanks for clearing that up.

ottostreet

antokwon wrote: »

thanks a million mate hope everyone was happy with the figures!!! we got a good turn out for the day!

did i pass you on the m50 yesterday heading northbound near the firhouse exit? around 7pm?

antokwon

ottostreet wrote: »

did i pass you on the m50 yesterday heading northbound near the firhouse exit? around 7pm?

yeah was on it about that time what u driving?!?

ottostreet

antokwon wrote: »

yeah was on it about that time what u driving?!?

a silver mitsubishi fto.

passed by ya and thought the prelude looked very familiar...then i realised it was from the pics of the dyno day!

antokwon

ottostreet wrote: »

a silver mitsubishi fto.

passed by ya and thought the prelude looked very familiar...then i realised it was from the pics of the dyno day!

small world i remember the fto ha, nice car!

Voodoomelon

Here's the Prelude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYmvGrNYAyY

I have more of it, i'll try and get them uploaded over the next few days.

I have Eireals Type R uploaded too, but its on private until he says its ok/not ok to post it.

5500

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I have Eireals Type R uploaded too, but its on private until he says its ok/not ok to post it.

Fire away with it dude!

Voodoomelon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbDf4jv4pfw

I have more of that too, i'll see about uploading them.

copeyhagen

was there only fwd cars done or rwd too?

organise another one, i hadnt got a car to bring down but i should have the chaser in a few weeks and i have a nicely setup eg at the moment too would be interested to see what they both make

rob

Graham_B18C

Go back a page or two, the 850 was rwd and there was a supra done too!

antokwon

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Here's the Prelude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYmvGrNYAyY

I have more of it, i'll try and get them uploaded over the next few days.

I have Eireals Type R uploaded too, but its on private until he says its ok/not ok to post it.

Great video man thanks a mil!!!

Atomic Pineapple

Graham_B18C wrote: »

Go back a page or two, the 850 was rwd and there was a supra done too!

And a 7 series!

Graham_B18C

draffodx wrote: »

And a 7 series!

My bad, and also a 7 series!

5500

I'd do another one again anyways, I've a catback waiting to go on the car and will most likely bang on an induction kit too so wouldn't mind seeing if there's gains

philly.dang

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Nah, I know the guy that use to own it though.


He was adamant it was a Type R, when in fact it's just an SiR and that colour is resprayed simply cos it's a crash and repair

The bay is still white also!

it was a type r if it was an sir how could it have a dc2 type r on the vin tag and matching chassis code on the book explain nick and who told u it was crashed and repaired?? coz i never crashed and repaired it either did the previous owner, i gave yur man that owns it now the receipt for the spray job and he can feel free to ring him and ask if he did any repairs on it!! jelousy will get ya no were

ottostreet

philly.dang wrote: »

it was a type r if it was an sir how could it have a dc2 type r on the vin tag and matching chassis code on the book explain nick and who told u it was crashed and repaired?? coz i never crashed and repaired it either did the previous owner, i gave yur man that owns it now the receipt for the spray job and he can feel free to ring him and ask if he did any repairs on it!! jelousy will get ya no were

coming up as DC2 SIR on mywheels?

pablosd

cleared as sir wen imported man simple as

loads of ppl clear vti's as ILS, sir's as esi
its all for the insurance reasons,
vin is all dat matters

ottostreet

pablosd wrote: »

cleared as sir wen imported man simple as

loads of ppl clear vti's as ILS, sir's as esi
its all for the insurance reasons,
vin is all dat matters

so theyre all uninsured? wouldnt fancy that myself!

pablosd

ottostreet wrote: »

so theyre all uninsured? wouldnt fancy that myself!

no, its more of a loop-hole in the system

u insure ur car, whatever it is down as on the log,
some ppl are lucky dat their car was cleared by revenue as lower insurance class model.... as long as the chassis number/engine numbers match, ur ok...

ottostreet

pablosd wrote: »

no, its more of a loop-hole in the system

u insure ur car, whatever it is down as on the log,
some ppl are lucky dat their car was cleared by revenue as lower insurance class model.... as long as the chassis number/engine numbers match, ur ok...

This is interesting, I don't get this! I've got an FTO GPX, the VIN and chassis plates will show that its a GPX, its cleared as a GPX, and when NCT check the plates, it will be a GPX.

So say this Integra Type R (which is cleared and declared as an SIR), is crashed, and an assessor comes to view it, and sees that the VIN & chassis codes say its a Type R, wouldnt that put the owner up the swanee?

Also, how does it get through the NCT with mismatching plates to whats on the book? A simple look at the code can generally tell you what the car is easily!

Atomic Pineapple

ottostreet wrote: »

So say this Integra Type R (which is cleared and declared as an SIR), is crashed, and an assessor comes to view it, and sees that the VIN & chassis codes say its a Type R, wouldnt that put the owner up the swanee?

Yes, if the car is a Type R and isn't insured as one then the owner has no insurance, it doesn't matter what's on the log book.

pablosd

ottostreet wrote: »

This is interesting, I don't get this! I've got an FTO GPX, the VIN and chassis plates will show that its a GPX, its cleared as a GPX, and when NCT check the plates, it will be a GPX.

So say this Integra Type R (which is cleared and declared as an SIR), is crashed, and an assessor comes to view it, and sees that the VIN & chassis codes say its a Type R, wouldnt that put the owner up the swanee?

Also, how does it get through the NCT with mismatching plates to whats on the book? A simple look at the code can generally tell you what the car is easily!

dont know how it works, but my old teg was down on the log book as ''integra dc2'' full stop ,(didnt say whether sir or itr) why? its said type r on vin plate? my civic is down on the log as EG9, doesnt say sir or vti? (says clearly SIR on vin)
there is many more examples like dat around the country, wen u go to revenue i suppose dey only check paperwork, dont check the car(dats da way i cleared passat years ago) ,
taking into consideration revenue reading jap loogbook translated dey only get the first chassis bit no. in dis case DC2? so its up to you to tell dem further wat it is...?

Graham_B18C

pablosd wrote: »

dont know how it works, but my old teg was down on the log book as ''integra dc2'' full stop ,(didnt say whether sir or itr) why? its said type r on vin plate? my civic is down on the log as EG9, doesnt say sir or vti? (says clearly SIR on vin)
there is many more examples like dat around the country, wen u go to revenue i suppose dey only check paperwork, dont check the car(dats da way i cleared passat years ago) ,
taking into consideration revenue reading jap loogbook translated dey only get the first chassis bit no. in dis case DC2? so its up to you to tell dem further wat it is...?

Doesn't the car have a black rocker cover? I thought I saw the bonnet up that day, and also, why get it painted that colour? Or was it that colour when you bought it? Type R's never came from the factory in that colour

And just had a look at my log book there, it says mine is a Honda Integra 1.8 Type R

asti

Armin_Tamzarian wrote: »

Colt/Mirage/Lancer/Cyborg/Asti it's all very, very confusing.
My mate had a MIVEC one when we were 18, I was so jealous of him at the time.

:eek: say this said id clear this up there all mirages except the lancer the cyborg is mivec mirage is the jdm version of the colt ie a cyborg mirage


goes like this

cyborg rx zr rs(light weight)
lancer md 1 other model
asti rx rx version r zr rs

there 3 different cars with 3 different models

no such thing as a colt mivec unless its a convertion hope that helps:D

Graham_B18C

asti wrote: »

:eek: say this said id clear this up there all mirages except the lancer the cyborg is mivec mirage is the jdm version of the colt ie a cyborg mirage


goes like this

cyborg rx zr rs(light weight)
lancer md 1 other model
asti rx rx version r zr rs

there 3 different cars with 3 different models

no such thing as a colt mivec unless its a convertion hope that helps:D

That was useless without pics or links! Help us out a bit more please

Atomic Pineapple

pablosd wrote: »

dont know how it works, but my old teg was down on the log book as ''integra dc2'' full stop ,(didnt say whether sir or itr) why? its said type r on vin plate? my civic is down on the log as EG9, doesnt say sir or vti? (says clearly SIR on vin)
there is many more examples like dat around the country, wen u go to revenue i suppose dey only check paperwork, dont check the car(dats da way i cleared passat years ago) ,
taking into consideration revenue reading jap loogbook translated dey only get the first chassis bit no. in dis case DC2? so its up to you to tell dem further wat it is...?

What has what it says on the log book got to do with anything anyway?

Its not up to you whether to tell your insurance company what your car actually is, you have to be up front and honest about it, its not a choice.

If your not you dont have insurance, simple as.

Midnight_EG

philly.dang wrote: »

it was a type r if it was an sir how could it have a dc2 type r on the vin tag and matching chassis code on the book explain nick and who told u it was crashed and repaired?? coz i never crashed and repaired it either did the previous owner, i gave yur man that owns it now the receipt for the spray job and he can feel free to ring him and ask if he did any repairs on it!! jelousy will get ya no were

I'm going on what mywheels and cartell say :rolleyes:



Also, can't remember who told me, I asked somebody about the paint and they said they thought it was crashed and repaired.


Jealousy me hole :P

CollyJS

Graham_B18C wrote: »

Doesn't the car have a black rocker cover? I thought I saw the bonnet up that day, and also, why get it painted that colour? Or was it that colour when you bought it? Type R's never came from the factory in that colour

And just had a look at my log book there, it says mine is a Honda Integra 1.8 Type R

Ever hear of a thing called paint??? Bet you a full force kick in the nuts is a type r?????

Graham_B18C

CollyJS wrote: »

Ever hear of a thing called paint??? Bet you a full force kick in the nuts is a type r?????

Well my question was, why paint your car that awful colour if it's undamaged?

Bet me a full force kick in the nuts is a type r?????

Huh...Is that a question?!

Quazzie

CollyJS wrote: »

Ever hear of a thing called paint??? Bet you a full force kick in the nuts is a type r?????

I thanked your post because you are awesome.

ottostreet

CollyJS wrote: »

Ever hear of a thing called paint??? Bet you a full force kick in the nuts is a type r?????

and who are you now? 3rd person defending this 'type r' and the 1st to be a dickhead about it.

Cartell says its an SIR. Midnight_EG claims to know the car, and says its an SIR. and another person who DOES have an integra type R says the car doesnt come in that colour as standard. Logic says the car was damaged and respaired/resprayed.

And even if it is an ITR, the car is declared as an SIR to the insurance companies, thus making the driver uninsured.

Midnight_EG

ottostreet wrote: »

and who are you now? 3rd person defending this 'type r' and the 1st to be a dickhead about it.

Cartell says its an SIR. Midnight_EG claims to know the car, and says its an SIR. and another person who DOES have an integra type R says the car doesnt come in that colour as standard. Logic says the car was damaged and respaired/resprayed.

And even if it is an ITR, the car is declared as an SIR to the insurance companies, thus making the driver uninsured.

No no, I said cartell and such were saying it's an SiR, I know the previous owner and it is in fact a Type R, just stating what the internet says!

ottostreet

Midnight_EG wrote: »

No no, I said cartell and such were saying it's an SiR, I know the previous owner and it is in fact a Type R, just stating what the internet says!

god its getting confusing! cheers for that. So its a Type R, declared as an SIR. thanks for clearing that up! :cool:

Midnight_EG

ottostreet wrote: »

god its getting confusing! cheers for that. So its a Type R, declared as an SIR. thanks for clearing that up! :cool:

And painted gray minus the engine bay after being Championship White originally! :P

Bonito

OK so someone imported a type R, told Mr. Revenue it's an SIR, then molested it with that stupid colour?

Not only are they guilty of defiling a lovely car but, potentially, tax evasion and insurance fraud aswell. Brilliant. :pac:

I'm going to import a GSR and tell them it's only a 1.3 lancer or something!

knifey_spoonie

MMMMMMMM.....Popcorn.

This is better than that new Twilight Film

pablosd

Bonito wrote: »

OK so someone imported a type R, told Mr. Revenue it's an SIR, then molested it with that stupid colour?

Not only are they guilty of defiling a lovely car but, potentially, tax evasion and insurance fraud aswell. Brilliant. :pac:

I'm going to import a GSR and tell them it's only a 1.3 lancer or something!

color is a matter of taste man, u mite not like it, someone else does

u cant do that as gsr and 1.3 lancer have different displacement,

its different with similar cars of same displacement, u can only declare/false declare/not declare the trim level, dats it