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Crikey... Danny Byrne moving on, he'd been working on Church Street for as long as my memory serves.
A tinge of personal sadness, teen memories galore of Danny and the brother "Doc" in the original shop (across the road) back in the late 80s when barbering options in the town were limited (Harry Ringwood is the only other barber I can remember back then).
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I don't normally do this splitting up quotes thing to answer different points, but here goes...
Granted, you didn't use those exact words. But unless you assign different meaning than I do to the term "had it out with", I'm taking it that you had a detailed and possibly somewhat heated conversation with an engineer, where you tried to convince him/her that their way would be wrong, and your way would be preferable - i.e. that you knew better. If the discussion went a different way, I'd love to know more about it.You read what you want to read rather than what was written - where in any of my posts did I say that I new better?
Well, they probably know more about engineering....Just because somebody's an engineer doesn't mean that they know better -
Ah. They do.they may know more about engineering than I do (that wouldn't be hard)
Neither you nor anybody else has yet explained why you feel the Flood Defence Scheme, as proposed, would "muck it up". What's wrong in essence with erecting what look like attractive stone walls and glass panels, and moving the bridge a few hundred yards downstream? I'm genuinely curious to know.but I have to live in the town when they have finished mucking it up.
Quite a colourful phrase.You may feel the need to tug a forelock to those you perceive to be your betters, I do not.
Personally, I wouldn't see it as tugging a forelock. I'd see it as being willing to accept the advice and views of professionals in matters that I know little or nothing about myself.
I know little or nothing about cars, so if my mechanic (who's a neighbour who I trust) says he needs to do A, B and C when I go to him with a problem, I won't argue the point unless I have very good evidence to the contrary.
I know little or nothing about dentistry, so if I go in with a toothache and expecting to maybe need a filling, only for the dentist to say I need an extraction or even root canal work instead (as has happened in the not-too-distant past), I'm not going to argue the point with him either.
I know little or nothing about civil and structural engineering and flood relief works, so if a dedicated team of engineers studies an issue over a number of years and draws up a series of recommendations culminating in something like the proposed Enniscorthy Flood Relief Scheme, I'm not going to argue with them either, unless I have very good evidence to the contrary.
Specifically, I'm not going to "have it out" with somebody if I have a simple feeling or unfounded opinion that just scraping stones off the riverbed would work better, particularly when the engineering team show that they've considered dredging all right; that there's a place for it in the scheme, but that dredging alone won't solve all the problems; and give a detailed explanation why.
To my mind, anybody who still insists "they should just dredge the river" even after having that detailed discussion with the engineering team really must think that they know better than the engineers. But again, maybe you see things differently.0 -
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Uncle Pierre wrote: »Probably shows how little I'm actually in the town these days! Where I live is slightly closer to Gorey, and I work in Wexford (when I'm able to go there instead of working from home), so I tend to do things in one of those towns rather than Enniscorthy.
I can only imagine that your view and opinion is a lot less emotionally invested than people actively living in the town.
BTW. That's not to say you don't have an emotional attachment, i just suspect that it might be less given your statement above.
With regard to the flood defense, there's certainly a case for ruling with the head and ruling with the heart (that's me saying you're both right so get over it) 0 -
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I can only imagine that your view and opinion is a lot less emotionally invested than people actively living in the town.
BTW. That's not to say you don't have an emotional attachment, i just suspect that it might be less given your statement above.
With regard to the flood defense, there's certainly a case for ruling with the head and ruling with the heart (that's me saying you're both right so get over it)
Yup. I'm not from the town, and I don't live there. But I grew up within five miles of it, went to school there, got a job there after college and rented a flat there, played soccer with a club there, continued to live there for a while after being transferred to Wexford with my job, met my wife there (although she's not actually from the town either!), had our wedding reception there, still live not too far from it, and still have a big and genuine interest in the welfare and future of a town that's been a big part of my life.
I've an elderly aunt who lives on Island Road who's all in favour of the works going ahead, and I know business people with premises that have been affected in the past who are all in favour of it too.
But you're right - bottom line is that it doesn't directly affect me one way or the other, and people living in the town may feel more emotionally involved.
That's to be expected and understood. But the thing I don't understand is why some are still objecting to it.
Do they just think the new walls will be unsightly? Are there genuine concerns over traffic flow at a new bridge further downstream, that I'm not thinking of? Or is something else? Just asking. Might not get an answer!
P.S. - I was actually born in Enniscorthy too. Dr Cuddingham's Nursing Home, back in the early 70s. Now long gone, but apparently a popular delivery spot back then, when the journey to Wexford Hospital was a much tougher trek than it is today.0 -
Whether deliberately or otherwise you have missed my point - the Seamus Rafter bridge was designed by "experts" - you know, the people you doff your cap to. :rolleyes:
Yes, seems a strange lack of foresight all right. But I don't think the current engineering team is the same as the one back then, and I'd like to think that the current team have learned from the mistakes of the past.
By the way, if I was missing the point, you're still avoiding the question.
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And sincere thanks to you too.
You've now set out your reasons for your objections, which is all I was wondering about in the first place.
Thank you for also putting forward a suggested alternative.
For what it's worth, I'd suspect there'd be a lot more opposition to CPO-ing and demolishing large numbers of premises along either or both sides of the river. And I'd have my doubts that it would be cheaper too. But remember I'm not an engineer.
Thanks again. Have a nice day!0 -
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