Kildare Town Development

NedNew2

Did anybody notice that new signs seeking planning permission have appeared at the corner of the old Cork Road/M7 link road (adjacent to Kildare Village). It's for a 4,500 square metre store with a few additional smaller units and associated parking (to compare, a standard Lidl or Aldi would be about 1000-1500 square metres).

Anybody know what this is? A new Dunnes or Tesco maybe?

Also does anybody know if the Aldi site is stalled or will be started soon?

Danke.


Here is the information (taken from http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/Planning/WeeklyLists/June/KildareCountyCouncil/ApplicationsReceived/LinkToDocument,22828,en.pdf):

The proposed development consists of enabling works which include works to the Old Cork Road, (R445) to facilitate right turn lanes and a signalised junction and the provision of one no. car access point off the Old Cork Road (R445). Planning permission is also sought for the demolition of all existing structures on site, and the construction of a 2 storey in height development (total gross floor area c. 5,333m2) consisting of 3 no. retail units of c. 406m2 total gross floor area, circulation and lobby space of c. 444m2 gross floor area, 1 no. retail anchor of c. 4,483m2 gross floor area with ancillary alcohol sales, 324 no. car spaces, plant and signage, service yard access off the Old Cork Road (R445), the provision of a pump house, substation and recycling centre, hard and soft landscaping along the building frontage on the Old Cork Road and all ancillary landscaping , site development works and site services lands to the West of Kildare Town Centre on lands immediately south of the Old Cork Road (R445)and east of the Nurney Road, Kildare Town, Co Kildare.

muppet_man

I know Tesco put in a planning application in for that site last. It's application no. 091293 if ye go http://webgis.kildarecoco.ie/planningenquirysystem/mainframes.aspx
I was keeping an eye it last year online and had a few NIMBY's objecting to it. Last submission online was the council looking for more info. Forgot about it till now.

Are their any dates on these new notices, maybe they've re-submitted.

You mentioned something about an Aldi site? Where's that going?

muppet_man

Just compared the 2 applications.
This time it Northline Developments Ltd who applied and their looking for an extra 918m2 of floor space. Can't see NIMBY's been happy with that.
There seems to be a lot more technical reports this time around so hopefully they've done their homework this time around.

NedNew2

It's a shame if it's Tesco (hate for Kildare to become another Tesco-Town) - but if it brings jobs then I suppose thats fair enough.

As for Aldi, they've already bought a site and as far as I know they have planning permission. The site is in Grey Connell, at the Kildare Town side of Kildare Village. You can see their advertising hoarding from the Motorway (thery're looking for other shops to join them). Thats been there for about a year now though with nothing evidently happening.

aodh_rua

NedNew2 wrote: »

It's a shame if it's Tesco (hate for Kildare to become another Tesco-Town) - but if it brings jobs then I suppose thats fair enough.

As for Aldi, they've already bought a site and as far as I know they have planning permission. The site is in Grey Connell, at the Kildare Town side of Kildare Village. You can see their advertising hoarding from the Motorway (thery're looking for other shops to join them). Thats been there for about a year now though with nothing evidently happening.

Aldi do have permission on the Grey Abbey road. As for Tesco, they have another application submitted on May 14 which seems to focus on access and roads. Northline submitted their application on May 26 and from the site layout it seems to be on the same land as Tesco. I'll look into it.

muppet_man

NedNew2 wrote: »

It's a shame if it's Tesco (hate for Kildare to become another Tesco-Town) - but if it brings jobs then I suppose thats fair enough.

Hope some kind of retailer gets the go ahead, the area could do with a jobs boost. But then again it would effect smaller local shops.
A double edged sword I suppose

91011

Aldi development should be starting soon - its meant to open in October. If they build it as quick as the portlaoise one, they probably only need to start work in mid october

91011

Work has started on the aldi site and opening is on schedule for end of October.

NedNew2

Thats excellent news.

I wonder will there be any other tenants too? I think this is supposed to be a mutli-shop development.

NedNew2

By the way, here is what is planned at Aldi:

http://greyabbeyretail.com/greyabbey.pdf

Looks good.

eiei0

Traffic is going to be some mess around Aldi with the Schools just up the road and the village across from it.

at least Heffernan have moved as trying to park there in the morning/afternoon was a joke.

summer babes

Traffic mightn't be too bad, hopefully some parents might use the aldi car park for school drops.

Any news on the Tesco's?

aodh_rua

summer babes wrote: »

Traffic mightn't be too bad, hopefully some parents might use the aldi car park for school drops.

Any news on the Tesco's?

The Tesco application cannot proceed until the councillors adopt a special Area Action Plan for the site; as there is a full review of the whole town's development plan about to get underway, it will probably have to wait until this process completes in 2011.

NedNew2

aodh_rua wrote: »

The Tesco application cannot proceed until the councillors adopt a special Area Action Plan for the site; as there is a full review of the whole town's development plan about to get underway, it will probably have to wait until this process completes in 2011.

Just to confirm what Aodh Rua has stated, the following is from the Kildare Nationalist (Link):

Set back for Tesco store plans for Kildare town

PLANS by Tesco to build a major new store in Kildare town were set back on Monday of last week when members of Kildare Co Council voted against an area action plan relating to the location of the proposed site.

Despite a large number of abstentions in the council chamber, the decision to reject the plan was carried by 10 votes to six, with local area councillors Tony O’Donnell (Fine Gael) and Suzanne Doyle (Fianna Fáil) pressing forcefully for the action plan to be abandoned.

The plan in question dates back eight years, when the focus was on expanding housing and commercial development in Kildare town.

At the time, three specific areas were pinpointed as requiring individual action plans. They included the Magee Barracks site (for which development plans have now been abandoned); the South Green area, including the roadway leading past the cemetery and across to Green Road, which was to have an upgraded road network and zoning for 2,500 houses, and finally the green belt leading from Kildare Village down onto the Monasterevin Road, to which the Tesco application relates.

“In general, these local plans are no longer suitable,” Cllr O’Donnell told the Kildare Nationalist following last week’s meeting. He stressed that at any rate, much of the development had been contingent on the completion of the new Kildare waste water treatment plant, which had not yet been delivered.

“We now understand from the county manager that the contract for the plant is to be signed next month and the plant should be operational in the spring of 2012, which gives us a window in terms of formulating a whole new town plan,” he said.

He stressed that the Tesco plan was “very much to be welcomed” as a large retail outlet of this nature would bring enormous benefits to the town but he added that there was uncertainty about the proposed location.

“The area councillors have been in constant discussions with the council planners about this and they are clear about what we want. Trying to push this plan through at the last minute, in order to suit a planning application, is not the way to do things.”

Cllr O’Donnell said that the formulation of a new Kildare town plan had already been voted a priority by the full council and he expressed the hope that work on preparing this would go ahead in the immediate future.

Snaggerman

91011 wrote: »

Work has started on the aldi site and opening is on schedule for end of October.

Just found this n the Aldi site

Location Phone Service Distance Opening Times
Aldi-Süd Deutschland

ALDI Kildare Town
Grey Abbey Road
Kildare Kildare Town


* More details
* Map
* Route

Dist0.61 km
Business hours
Monday - Wednesday 9:00am - 8:00pm
Thursday - Friday 9:00am - 9:00pm
Saturday 9:00am - 8:00pm
Sunday 11:00am - 7:00pm

This store will open on Thursday 16th December 2010

Will_H

I see the boards are up around the site of the new Tesco's in Kildare Town in order for work to start.....

120 staff will be employed in the store when it opens before the end of 2011.

An Bord Pleanála granted the supermarket giant permission for the 4,483m2 store and three other units as well as 324 car spaces.

aodh_rua

Will_H wrote: »

I see the boards are up around the site of the new Tesco's in Kildare Town in order for work to start.....

120 staff will be employed in the store when it opens before the end of 2011.

An Bord Pleanála granted the supermarket giant permission for the 4,483m2 store and three other units as well as 324 car spaces.

Tesco's official plan is to open in January 2012, but they are going to try hard to finish in time for this Christmas.

Will_H

Look like they'll be open over the next week. Staff were filling the shelves over the weekend.....

Ken.

There plan is to open the 5th of December.I was talking to someone from Kildare that works in the naas store that's getting transferred over to the new store. She was told she'd have training over there the weekend of the 3rd/4th and open 5th. It's provisional at the moment.