New Rules in English League

LiamMc

The English League clubs voted in some new propasals in at their meeting in Malta VC. English League clubs will be obliged to have at least 10 homegrown players over the age of 21 in their squads, limited to 25 players over 21.
A homegrown player is deemed a player who has spent at least 3 seasons in English football before the age of 21.
The new requirements does not effect any player under he age of 21.

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6197108/FL-clubs-agree-to-home-grown-rule

This can a negative knock-on effect in the League of Ireland as players may be given advice to leave Ireland earlier than they need to begin their 3 year before eligibility.

There will be some references made to EU law and freedom of movement and work. However if the English League show that EU Nationals can become eligible for 'homegrown', that it is a minority of squad players and if there are other helpful precedents elsewhere in the EU. They may have a very good defence.

delta_bravo

LiamMc wrote: »

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http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6197108/FL-clubs-agree-to-home-grown-rule

This can a negative knock-on effect in the League of Ireland as players may be given advice to leave Ireland earlier than they need to begin their 3 year before eligibility.

Not necessarily. As far as I know another piece of legislation is coming in to prevent players from leaving to play in another country until they are 18

mrDerek

it is actually ridiculous it limits players hoping to step up if there over 21 as some clubs that might be interested could be maxed out.

OPENROAD

Can't see the point of it to be honest, why have the rule when you can bring over an Irish lad and count him as homegrown player, where is the benefit for England

Dempsey

OPENROAD wrote: »

Can't see the point of it to be honest, why have the rule when you can bring over an Irish lad and count him as homegrown player, where is the benefit for England

Its not really a benefit for England (NT) but a benefit or putting the focus on getting clubs to buy players that will meet the UEFA Quotas for European Competition.

It does focus smaller EPL/Championship clubs onto their youth systems. They wont have big scouting networks so they'll be the ones focussing on UK & Irish players more so and then you'll have bigger clubs fighting over their produce so that they can meet the criteria.

OPENROAD

Dempsey wrote: »

Its not really a benefit for England (NT) but a benefit or putting the focus on getting clubs to buy players that will meet the UEFA Quotas for European Competition.

It does focus smaller EPL/Championship clubs onto their youth systems. They wont have big scouting networks so they'll be the ones focussing on UK & Irish players more so and then you'll have bigger clubs fighting over their produce so that they can meet the criteria.

But it does come back to that, UEFA quotas are surely to designed to benefit people/players in the country in question, otherwise whats the point of the rule ? So if thats the case, whats the point of the rule when you can get some Irish kid over when he is young and so qualifies under the rule, thats not a benefit to England or whatever country it happens to be, or am I missing something here?

Dempsey

OPENROAD wrote: »

But it does come back to that, UEFA quotas are surely to designed to benefit people/players in the country in question, otherwise whats the point of the rule ? So if thats the case, whats the point of the rule when you can get some Irish kid over when he is young and so qualifies under the rule, thats not a benefit to England or whatever country it happens to be, or am I missing something here?

EU Article 39 - Free movement of workers would be breached if you placed restrictions on employment based on nationality. Thats why an 18 y/o irish kid can go to any EU country and meet the UEFA quota rules for that country and vice versa. UEFA would have been stricter if it was legal to do so.

OPENROAD

Dempsey wrote: »

EU Article 39 - Free movement of workers would be breached if you placed restrictions on employment based on nationality. Thats why an 18 y/o irish kid can go to any EU country and meet the UEFA quota rules for that country and vice versa. UEFA would have been stricter if it was legal to do so.

I know, I disagree with the rule full stop, it just seems a foolish rule to introduce when you are trying to help national players in a given country, yet you can get around it easily enough.

Dempsey

OPENROAD wrote: »

I know, I disagree with the rule full stop, it just seems a foolish rule to introduce when you are trying to help national players in a given country, yet you can get around it easily enough.

The UEFA Quotas for European Competitions have been in use for years now. It wasnt really to help national teams but to get all clubs to develop their own players rather than buy buy buy which was happening.

The rules the Enlgish game have introduced are the same, get clubs to develop talent rather that spend vast sums of money and transfer fees. Quality talent from abroad will always find its way in but the mediocre talent may not and thats where these rules will see its success.

Rather than buying in 16-18 y/o johnny mediocre who will need their entire family relocated ($$$), clubs will try to save some money by finding local mediocre talent thus saving them ($$). They will be inclined to take more calculated risks with foreign potential a la Arsenal but that isnt cheap and carries more risk.

Remember the cost of Arsenals youth system isnt as cheap as people think, people look at transfer fees and think they've save millions but you dont see the development costs (relocation of players families, visas, translators etc etc) and they do mount up to a significant sum when you factor in several players being brought in from abroad each year. And All it takes is one member of that person's family being unsettled to have an effect on the entire family and therefore affecting the footballer. Antonio Reyes decided to go to England without family and we all know how quickly he became bored and unsettled.

Irish people can adjust to living in England with considerable ease by comparison to French, Spanish, Italian, Mexican, Brazilians etc

Its not all about protecting the National Team and developing English players, its about getting clubs to focus on youth development regardless of nationality. Statistically, that should improve the chances of an English players being developed into a quality player moreso than a foreign player as not everyone has the resources to do what Arsenal, Chelsea & Man United do

LiamMc

The Premier League have confirmed that they are introducing an eight 'home-grown' player cap for 2010/2011 season

http://www.premierleague.com/page/AcademicsPL/0,,12306~1804959,00.html
"From next season, clubs must include eight home-grown players out of a squad of 25.‬‪"

I should quote the Sports Minister Gerry Sutcliffe or Premier League Chief Executive Richard Scudamore, but I really won't bother.