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Pass Maths P1

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Finical wrote: »
    Just because you're happy with the paper, doesn't mean everyone has to be happy with it. The book we have for maths is utter sh!te, all we done was the past papers and maybe there wasn't aything new yesterday but some of the questions were phrased differently, but than again I suppose that's maths for yeah.

    It's done now though what can yeah do? :pac:

    This is the thing... the majority of people are happy about it?
    So you're admitting there was nothing new. If there was nothing new and you had studied your maths hard enough, you would have been fine. Can you not see that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    :rolleyes:
    Just because you didn't do the work required through the year doesn't mean it was a disgraceful paper. Most people in my school found it very easy (EDIT: I would just like to mention that this includes 2 repeats who failed maths last year), the only reason the majority of people on this board are complaining is because there has been a flood of new users, and the people who found the paper easy (the majority of students) aren't getting all worried about it and frantically posting about how hard it was.

    If the SEC decides to change the marking scheme because some students were too lazy to work hard enough for their maths I would be very disappointed, and I think it's safe to say so would everyone else who did the work.


    Arrogant little chap, aren't you? If you had average literacy you would have seen that I actually did work throughout the year to up my grade from a B1 to an A1. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I really doubt people who failed last year got a high grade this year. Two girls who are thick as **** came out of the exam this year saying it was easy. I'm in their class, I know how bad they are. Doesn't really mean anything - more than likely they're unaware that the part C's are worth alot more than the A's and B's.

    Your claim that the majority of students found the paper easy is ridiculous. Most people in my school found it difficult, and listening to the radio shows, it's clear that the majority of people think it was a particularly tough paper compared to other years. If you got lucky and the questions suited you, fair play. You might have scraped your pass. Me, I was going for an A1. However, don't call me lazy again (if you do, you're admitting to being a raging homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that). You know nothing about me, you bellend.

    Even your most recent post is idiotic. The majorityquite clearly didn't find it easy! What's actually wrong with you! (Rhetorical question, I don't wanna know).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭irondragons


    munkymanmatt is a talented troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    moneyman wrote: »
    Arrogant little chap, aren't you? If you had average literacy you would have seen that I actually did work throughout the year to up my grade from a B1 to an A1. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I really doubt people who failed last year got a high grade this year. Two girls who are thick as **** came out of the exam this year saying it was easy. I'm in their class, I know how bad they are. Doesn't really mean anything - more than likely they're unaware that the part C's are worth alot more than the A's and B's.

    Your claim that the majority of students found the paper easy is ridiculous. Most people in my school found it difficult, and listening to the radio shows, it's clear that the majority of people think it was a particularly tough paper compared to other years. If you got lucky and the questions suited you, fair play. You might have scraped your pass. Me, I was going for an A1. However, don't call me lazy again (if you do, you're admitting to being a raging homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that). You know nothing about me, you bellend.

    Even your most recent post is idiotic. The majorityquite clearly didn't find it easy! What's actually wrong with you! (Rhetorical question, I don't wanna know).

    Maybe I am, I'm expecting 100% from that paper.
    The majority of the people on here, and the radio are whatever are bound to be the ones who thought it was hard. How many people are going to be anxious to ring up Joe Duffy to whinge about how the maths exam was too easy? :rolleyes:

    I too was going for the A1. I didn't even study as hard as I could have, and along with most of the people I know (as in leaving certs from more than just my school) found it simple. However, it most certainly wasn't luck, it was because I had looked over everything, and not just the bits I like/thought were coming up. The lazy crowd are the only people who are giving out about the paper. Resorting to name calling isn't going to get you anywhere, neither is moaning about the paper. The only thing that will help you is studying for P2.

    As for your last little remark, i think I've already covered that. :D


    EDIT:
    munkymanmatt is a talented troll.
    Clearly defeated in one thread and shown to be a troll, he moves along to another, and calls me the troll. How nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    This is the thing... the majority of people are happy about it?
    So you're admitting there was nothing new. If there was nothing new and you had studied your maths hard enough, you would have been fine. Can you not see that?
    Where's this majority you keep talking about? Because the majority of people I've spoken to or heard from -both on the internet, from other students in my school and even the teachers- thought it wasn't a nice paper at all. I'm a repeat, got a B1 last year and was only a few marks off an A. I've spent the last year going over and over every past paper and mock I could get my hands on and I still thought some parts of that paper were nasty.

    This isn't a few people complaining about an exam because they haven't done the work, (knowing the swots who hang out on this board I bet they've all been working their arses off :p). This is a lot of people complaining about a genuinely tough paper.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Lawliet wrote: »
    Where's this majority you keep talking about? Because the majority of people I've spoken to or heard from -both on the internet, from other students in my school and even the teachers- thought it wasn't a nice paper at all. I'm a repeat, got a B1 last year and was only a few marks off an A. I've spent the last year going over and over every past paper and mock I could get my hands on and I still thought some parts of that paper were nasty.

    This isn't a few people complaining about an exam because they haven't done the work, (knowing the swots who hang out on this board I bet they've all been working their arses off :p). This is a lot of people complaining about a genuinely tough paper.

    You know, the 95% of the students in the country who aren't on here giving out about it?
    Can you please tell me which parts you actually thought were so tough? The teachers in my school also thought it was simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭MaggieNF


    LOL


    it wasn't that bad, chill and if your that worried go study paper 2 :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    You know, the 95% of the students in the country who aren't on here giving out about it?
    .
    Just because they aren't on here giving out, doesn't mean they thought it was easy. It's a pretty big leap in logic to assume that, 40% of them could have found it tough but have decided to forget about it and move on, maybe another 5% just don't have the internet access to come on here and complain, maybe 50% have decided to complain on other sites like facebook rather than here.

    I was actually one of the ones who wasn't going to bother complaining after voicing my initial annoyance at the paper, I was just coming to study for paper two to make up my grade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭ihavequestions


    @munkymanmatt You are obviously good at maths, you say you think you got 100% ? I think I did too. Could you do 8(v) ? Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 bearcub


    new to boards, long tim lurker , 1st time poster.

    in regards to maths p1, i thought it was quite a frustrating paper, the change of layout and phrasing of part C's after so many years steeped in repetition and sameness was very unsettling.

    i consider myself fairly capable at maths , well as far as ordinary level goes , and went into that exam comfortable that i could get the B i need, as i had put the study in . But because of its awkwardness , my whole college buzz could be at risk.

    .and i really don't think my view on the paper is due to me being an idiot or being underprepared. i think that is why a lot of people are pissed off about it. we're not just venting because we're sore losers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭irondragons


    Clearly defeated in one thread and shown to be a troll, he moves along to another, and calls me the troll. How nice.

    you didn't defeat anyone

    you gave me more of your fallacious logic and I just decided to ignore you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Lawliet wrote: »
    Just because they aren't on here giving out, doesn't mean they thought it was easy. It's a pretty big leap in logic to assume that, 40% of them could have found it tough but have decided to forget about it and move on, maybe another 5% just don't have the internet access to come on here and complain, maybe 50% have decided to complain on other sites like facebook rather than here.

    I was actually one of the ones who wasn't going to bother complaining after voicing my initial annoyance at the paper, I was just coming to study for paper two to make up my grade.

    Well the same could be said for you thinking the majority found it hard? I'm saying the majority of people, because I have spoken to a ton of people about this paper, from multiple schools, including some relations spread out across the country. A girl I know working for a local newspaper has only heard people saying it was easy when she went around after the exam getting pictures and stuff. Barely anyone found it hard, bar the usual suspects that didn't do a stroke.
    @munkymanmatt You are obviously good at maths, you say you think you got 100% ? I think I did too. Could you do 8(v) ? Thanks

    I didn't do it for the exam but if you give me a minute I'll write it out for you :)

    I just decided to ignore you.

    Oh, how silly of me! Of course you did. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭ihavequestions


    could anyone do 8(v) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭irondragons


    Oh, how silly of me! Of course you did. :D

    Quoting out of context?

    My word you are quite the troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Quoting out of context?

    My word you are quite the troll.

    I'm sorry, how is that out of context? You're calling my logic fallacious when it clearly isn't. If you'd kindly re-enter that thread and explain how you think cheating the LC is ok that would be great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭ihavequestions





    I didn't do it for the exam but if you give me a minute I'll write it out for you :)

    Thanks! Really annoying me ! I bet its simple I have a mental block with it for some reason! Which Qs did you do? I did them all , I say 6&8 are the only ones I didnt get full marks in! :cool: Not to sound cocky!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭irondragons


    I'm sorry, how is that out of context? You're calling my logic fallacious when it clearly isn't.

    herp derp

    you're asking me to refute fallacious drivel, why would I do this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    Well the same could be said for you thinking the majority found it hard? I'm saying the majority of people, because I have spoken to a ton of people about this paper, from multiple schools, including some relations spread out across the country. A girl I know working for a local newspaper has only heard people saying it was easy when she went around after the exam getting pictures and stuff. Barely anyone found it hard, bar the usual suspects that didn't do a stroke.
    The thing is though, that I'm not claiming the majority found it hard. I specified that the majority of people that I've spoken to found it difficult. I'm not pompous enough to assume the fifty or so people I've heard from represent the opinion of the thousands of others who sat the paper.

    It's fantastic that you and everyone you know found the paper so p1ss easy, but don't start assuming that the majority of students also found it so, and that anyone who disagrees hasn't worked. You're in no position to make such claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Well the same could be said for you thinking the majority found it hard? I'm saying the majority of people, because I have spoken to a ton of people about this paper, from multiple schools, including some relations spread out across the country. A girl I know working for a local newspaper has only heard people saying it was easy when she went around after the exam getting pictures and stuff. Barely anyone found it hard, bar the usual suspects that didn't do a stroke.



    I didn't do it for the exam but if you give me a minute I'll write it out for you :)




    Oh, how silly of me! Of course you did. :D


    See here's where you're wrong! As I've already said before (you seem to have a problem comprehending certain things), I did put in the work. Last year, I did not put in the work. I got a B1. The reason I'm repeating is because, admittedly, I didn't put in enough work last year. I'm going to take a leaf out of your book, and be unnecessarily arrogant (except, in my case, it's the truth) - I'm excellent at maths. Never had a problem doing any sort of question on Paper 1. Can do them all without any sort of a problem. But I found this paper quite tough. I find it difficult to believe that you've spoken to an amount of people that found it simple comparable to the amount that have voiced their displeasure. Which is why your claims that the majority found it simple is so silly.

    And no, you're wrong about the radio shows. They're specifically saying that this years paper was significantly more difficult than other years. Perhaps you have hearing difficulties as well as reading.

    I'm sure you've got your A1 (wink wink). And I'm equally sure your pride won't let you admit anything else when you get your results and you scurry to post them on here. After all, you couldn't have all them internets peoples believing that you're anything less than a genius! ;) It's OK, I won't let them in on your "secret".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    herp derp

    you're asking me to refute fallacious drivel, why would I do this
    You're claiming it's fallacious yet cannot explain why... :rolleyes:
    Lawliet wrote: »
    The thing is though, that I'm not claiming the majority found it hard. I specified that the majority of people that I've spoken to found it difficult. I'm not pompous enough to assume the fifty or so people I've heard from represent the opinion of the thousands of others who sat the paper.

    It's fantastic that you and everyone you know found the paper so p1ss easy, but don't start assuming that the majority of students also found it so, and that anyone who disagrees hasn't worked. You're in no position to make such claims.

    Well I'm sorry that I didn't deem it necessary to include an extra 3 words (that I know) in my post, due to the fact that there aren't many people giving out about the paper and most everyone that I know found it easy, along with our teachers saying it was easy.
    Also, I kind of am in that position seeing as I found it easy because I worked. :P I kid.

    moneyman wrote: »
    See here's where you're wrong! As I've already said before (you seem to have a problem comprehending certain things), I did put in the work. Last year, I did not put in the work. I got a B1. The reason I'm repeating is because, admittedly, I didn't put in enough work last year. I'm going to take a leaf out of your book, and be unnecessarily arrogant (except, in my case, it's the truth) - I'm excellent at maths. Never had a problem doing any sort of question on Paper 1. Can do them all without any sort of a problem. But I found this paper quite tough. I find it difficult to believe that you've spoken to an amount of people that found it simple comparable to the amount that have voiced their displeasure. Which is why your claims that the majority found it simple is so silly.

    And no, you're wrong about the radio shows. They're specifically saying that this years paper was significantly more difficult than other years. Perhaps you have hearing difficulties as well as reading.

    I'm sure you've got your A1 (wink wink). And I'm equally sure your pride won't let you admit anything else when you get your results and you scurry to post them on here. After all, you couldn't have all them internets peoples believing that you're anything less than a genius! ;) It's OK, I won't let them in on your "secret".

    See the thing here is, you're a repeat student. I bet this time last year you thought you had done enough, it would all be fine, and then you failed. Don't answer that, I don't care for denials etc. And I bet this is the same nonsense, you claim to have worked but you clearly haven't if you found that paper hard. You claim to be excellent at maths, how in the hell could you have found that paper hard? I nearly laughed when I read that. Everyone but the dossers in my school found it easy.

    Again, how many people are going to ring up Joe Duffy to whinge about how the maths paper was too easy? None. The reason that's all you're hearing on the radio is because people like to blame others for their faults (in this case, a lack of study) and of course the media is going to indulge in anything which criticises the state.

    Again, name calling and sarcasm aren't going to help anyone here. You seem to think I'm some sort of grade-grubbing egotist. I'm not here for praise or whatever. I'm commenting because you guys are trying your best to portray yourselves as the poor little victims, and the SEC as the big mean bullies.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭irondragons


    You're claiming it's fallacious yet cannot explain why... :rolleyes:

    hurr red herring


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    hurr red herring

    Why are you still posting? I also find it strange that you won't respond to anyone else in that thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    See the thing here is, you're a repeat student. I bet this time last year you thought you had done enough, it would all be fine, and then you failed. Don't answer that, I don't care for denials etc. And I bet this is the same nonsense, you claim to have worked but you clearly haven't if you found that paper hard. You claim to be excellent at maths, how in the hell could you have found that paper hard? I nearly laughed when I read that. Everyone but the dossers in my school found it easy.

    Again, how many people are going to ring up Joe Duffy to whinge about how the maths paper was too easy? None. The reason that's all you're hearing on the radio is because people like to blame others for their faults (in this case, a lack of study) and of course the media is going to indulge in anything which criticises the state.

    Again, name calling and sarcasm aren't going to help anyone here. You seem to think I'm some sort of grade-grubbing egotist. I'm not here for praise or whatever. I'm commenting because you guys are trying your best to portray yourselves as the poor little victims, and the SEC as the big mean bullies.


    Well, kid, I actually repeated because I simply could not make my mind up on what I wanted to do. But thank you for deciding my motives for me! Thanks for that! I didn't fail any subject by the way, but I did get a D2 in both French and Art (both higher level). How's that for you, a bit of honesty, eh? You're not used to the truth I'd imagine! Also got an A1 in English and the rest were B's.

    You think I havn't worked because I found the paper hard? Sorry, but you're an unrivalled ****wit. We had some idiots on this board this time last year, but you take the cake. You're obviously one of those annoying little chubby kids who comes out of every exam saying they've done well. Different story when you get the results, kid!

    Again, you are severely missing the point. Try reading! I'm guessing the comprehensions didn't go too well for you in English. The paper was said to be significantly MORE difficult than other years! You can't seem to grasp this. This has been said by teachers, examiners etc. I know for a fact that it was harder than other years. So, again, you're quite wrong on that one! But keep pretending you're not, denial is a great thing! I'm sure everyone in your school found it simple. ;)

    I'm not trying to blame anyone for the Paper being difficult (except perhaps the people who made the paper, as it was significantly different than other years). Again, you can tell me I didn't study all you want. You're a little internet warrior, that's for sure. You'd never say that to my face. You're a facetious little wankstain!

    Nowhere have I portrayed myself as a victim, merely voiced my displeasure. I'm allowed to do that. You then came in with your little tyrade, saying it was simple. I'm sure people look up to you on the internetz now lulz! Try and argue all you want, but you won't win. You see, I'm smarter than you. You use, well, peculiar logic. And you're clearly a troll. So good night. Get some sleep kid. You're e-friends will still be here in the morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bobsy


    Could anyone tell me what answer they gor for 6(c){ii0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    If it's on the course, it's in your book. Unless your teacher isn't doing their job properly (which is a seperate matter) they have covered at least 6 questions for P1. Which means it wasn't new material.

    Perhaps you can explain why its not in my book then? My teacher would have covered it if was either in the book or in the papers from previous years....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    moneyman wrote: »
    Well, kid, I actually repeated because I simply could not make my mind up on what I wanted to do. But thank you for deciding my motives for me! Thanks for that! I didn't fail any subject by the way, but I did get a D2 in both French and Art (both higher level). How's that for you, a bit of honesty, eh? You're not used to the truth I'd imagine! Also got an A1 in English and the rest were B's.

    You think I havn't worked because I found the paper hard? Sorry, but you're an unrivalled ****wit. We had some idiots on this board this time last year, but you take the cake. You're obviously one of those annoying little chubby kids who comes out of every exam saying they've done well. Different story when you get the results, kid!

    Again, you are severely missing the point. Try reading! I'm guessing the comprehensions didn't go too well for you in English. The paper was said to be significantly MORE difficult than other years! You can't seem to grasp this. This has been said by teachers, examiners etc. I know for a fact that it was harder than other years. So, again, you're quite wrong on that one! But keep pretending you're not, denial is a great thing! I'm sure everyone in your school found it simple. ;)

    I'm not trying to blame anyone for the Paper being difficult (except perhaps the people who made the paper, as it was significantly different than other years). Again, you can tell me I didn't study all you want. You're a little internet warrior, that's for sure. You'd never say that to my face. You're a facetious little wankstain!

    Nowhere have I portrayed myself as a victim, merely voiced my displeasure. I'm allowed to do that. You then came in with your little tyrade, saying it was simple. I'm sure people look up to you on the internetz now lulz! Try and argue all you want, but you won't win. You see, I'm smarter than you. You use, well, peculiar logic. And you're clearly a troll. So good night. Get some sleep kid. You're e-friends will still be here in the morning.

    I don't know why you're calling me kid, you don't know how old I am.
    Yes, I'm going to believe that you put yourself through another year of school and another leaving cert instead of trying to find a job or simply drawing the dole as everyone else in that position does. That sounds sooo likely... You obviously failed a subject because you slacked off, and you can't stand to admit it to people who don't even know you.

    When did I once lie, in anything I have ever said to you? You're going way off the topic of discussion here.

    I'm chubby am I? That's interesting to hear from someone who has never seen me, it shows you're pulling things out of nowhere. My weight is completely irrelevant. Also I don't do that because I know how disheartening it can be. And finally when I say I've done well I almost always have. I predicted my JC results almost perfectly. It's not as if that's relevant either though.

    The English was fine, thankyou for taking an interest :D

    Why would I lie about everyone I know finding it easy? Come on, I challenge you to give me one logical reason.

    It really, really wasn't.

    I'd have no problem saying anything to your face, I am quite capable of handling myself if that's what you mean :D

    What's so bad about me saying it was simple? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex and you can't stand people looking better than you at anything?

    And how is my logic peculiar?
    I'd like to see how you'd substantiate your claims that you're smarter than me too. Did you take the DATS? Any IQ tests? I can assure you I'm smarter than you.

    Also, reported.

    Perhaps you can explain why its not in my book then? My teacher would have covered it if was either in the book or in the papers from previous years....
    You still haven't told me what parts you found so difficult... what parts do you not think were in your book, and what book do you have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Making It Bad


    I never got why people who were going for A1's in pass didn't just do honours. I took a look at your paper and it seemed a little trickery than usual, questions like question 3. Our paper on the other hand was all standard kinda stuff, if you did the work, you were grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    I never got why people who were going for A1's in pass didn't just do honours. I took a look at your paper and it seemed a little trickery than usual, questions like question 3. Our paper on the other hand was all standard kinda stuff, if you did the work, you were grand.

    The amount of time you need to spend at honours is way out of proportion to the results you would achieve. What I mean is you'd be spending an equal amount of time at maths as all your other subjects combined, when honours maths doesn't give you any bonus points (except in UL) and you only have to have it for engineering/computer science courses and the like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 bearcub


    @monkeymanmatt

    surely you see a fairly significant change between the part C's this year and the ones from the last 10 years ?

    judging by some of the C parts , specifically Q8 v , and Q2+3 Cs . were very difficult for a pass paper. i think your statement of "simple" is a bit off, and stating that the reason we find them hard is because we're slackers is frankly a bit arrogant and insensitive.

    just my 2 cents, and please don't think i'm feeling sorry for myself, **** happens and i'll stand by my result.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    bearcub wrote: »
    @monkeymanmatt

    surely you see a fairly significant change between the part C's this year and the ones from the last 10 years ?

    judging by some of the C parts , specifically Q8 v , and Q2+3 Cs . were very difficult for a pass paper. i think your statement of "simple" is a bit off, and stating that the reason we find them hard is because we're slackers is frankly a bit arrogant and insensitive.

    just my 2 cents, and please don't think i'm feeling sorry for myself, **** happens and i'll stand by my result.

    I don't see too much of a difference to be honest. It's the same level of maths.

    I don't mean to call everyone who had a slight bit of difficulty with the paper a slacker. I'm talking about these people that are moaning about how the paper was impossible and will no doubt complain ceaselessly if they end up with a fail.

    I respect your attitude man :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 315 ✭✭Making It Bad


    The amount of time you need to spend at honours is way out of proportion to the results you would achieve. What I mean is you'd be spending an equal amount of time at maths as all your other subjects combined, when honours maths doesn't give you any bonus points (except in UL) and you only have to have it for engineering/computer science courses and the like.

    I suppose, it's fine for me. My time spent in maths helps my applied maths majorly as well as my physics to a certain extend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    I don't know why you're calling me kid, you don't know how old I am.

    Sorry, was going by your maturity level.
    Yes, I'm going to believe that you put yourself through another year of school and another leaving cert instead of trying to find a job or simply drawing the dole as everyone else in that position does. That sounds sooo likely... You obviously failed a subject because you slacked off, and you can't stand to admit it to people who don't even know you.

    My lord, you really are simple. Firstly, you think trying to find a job now, NOW, is a better option than repeating? Are you actually serious? With the amount of problems people are having finding work? I won't comment on how that makes you sound. Secondly, you think it's better to draw the dole than repeat? Seriously? Honestly, you have some sort of mental diffiency. Finally, if you really think that the only reason people repeat is because they failed a subject, you're extremely ignorant and naive. But we already knew that. For the record, I didn't fail anything, but if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe that. After all, we already know you believe alot of things that aren't true.
    When did I once lie, in anything I have ever said to you? You're going way off the topic of discussion here.

    "The majority of people found the paper simple." This is factually incorrect, whether you found it easy or not.
    I'm chubby am I? That's interesting to hear from someone who has never seen me, it shows you're pulling things out of nowhere. My weight is completely irrelevant. Also I don't do that because I know how disheartening it can be. And finally when I say I've done well I almost always have. I predicted my JC results almost perfectly. It's not as if that's relevant either though.

    Just a vibe I get. You seem to need to put others down to make yourself feel better. Usually a tactic employed by people who aren't very popular or who have low self-esteem. Which isn't necessarily your fault, you just need to stop being so arrogant and the problem might be solved.
    The English was fine, thankyou for taking an interest :D

    I doubt it was, and I wasn't taking interest, merely passing comment.
    Why would I lie about everyone I know finding it easy? Come on, I challenge you to give me one logical reason.

    You want to put others down, and you do this by pretending that everyone thinks it was easy. Clearly not the case. But I digress.
    I'd have no problem saying anything to your face, I am quite capable of handling myself if that's what you mean :D

    Really doubt that. But those internet warriors are scary! ;)
    What's so bad about me saying it was simple? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex and you can't stand people looking better than you at anything?

    Absolutely nothing wrong with you saying it was simple. The problem comes when you call me lazy for no particular reason, and then try to justify your general arrogance and ignorance by insisting everyone thought it was easy (when they didn't).
    And how is my logic peculiar?

    See above.
    Also, reported.

    Oh noes!!!! How will I be big up my internet ego now?!!!


    You still haven't told me what parts you found so difficult... what parts do you not think were in your book, and what book do you have?

    I have no intention of looking at the paper again, and certainly no intention of going to the bother of telling you which parts I found difficult. I don't need to justify anything to you. But I will take exception when you are being a dick for no reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    moneyman wrote: »
    Sorry, was going by your maturity level.



    My lord, you really are simple. Firstly, you think trying to find a job now, NOW, is a better option than repeating? Are you actually serious? With the amount of problems people are having finding work? I won't comment on how that makes you sound. Secondly, you think it's better to draw the dole than repeat? Seriously? Honestly, you have some sort of mental diffiency. Finally, if you really think that the only reason people repeat is because they failed a subject, you're extremely ignorant and naive. But we already knew that. For the record, I didn't fail anything, but if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe that. After all, we already know you believe alot of things that aren't true.



    "The majority of people found the paper simple." This is factually incorrect, whether you found it easy or not.



    Just a vibe I get. You seem to need to put others down to make yourself feel better. Usually a tactic employed by people who aren't very popular or who have low self-esteem. Which isn't necessarily your fault, you just need to stop being so arrogant and the problem might be solved.



    I doubt it was, and I wasn't taking interest, merely passing comment.



    You want to put others down, and you do this by pretending that everyone thinks it was easy. Clearly not the case. But I digress.



    Really doubt that. But those internet warriors are scary! ;)



    Absolutely nothing wrong with you saying it was simple. The problem comes when you call me lazy for no particular reason, and then try to justify your general arrogance and ignorance by insisting everyone thought it was easy (when they didn't).



    See above.



    Oh noes!!!! How will I be big up my internet ego now?!!!


    I have no intention of looking at the paper again, and certainly no intention of going to the bother of telling you which parts I found difficult. I don't need to justify anything to you. But I will take exception when you are being a dick for no reason.
    Yes, I think drawing the dole is a better choice than repeating if you didn't fail. Repeating, as I'm sure you're aware, is quite expensive.

    The majority of people I spoke to about it, which was a large number of people, found it easy. Just because a small number of people came on here/the radio to complain about it doesn't mean it was hard.

    Eh... a vibe? You get the vibe that I'm fat? That makes sense. I'm not putting anyone down, I said the paper was simple. I'm allowed to do that. I'm not putting anyone down, despite what you might think. You, on the other hand...

    Well it was, thanks. :D

    Again, I'm not pretending anything. Why would I bother? If I wanted to troll I wouldn't do it here.

    Where do you live? I'll meet up with you if you want to sort this out like a man instead of whining away with your keyboard. I'm in Kerry, if you feel like coming down I'll meet up with you whenever. :)

    They really did think it was simple. The only people who didn't were the slackers. You're repeating because you failed/didn't get the points you wanted = you didn't put the work in, and you probably haven't this time either.

    I don't know, perhaps you could try making yourself look hard by resorting to name-calling and threats again?

    As for that last bit, that wasn't for you, that was for Neon-Circles. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    Why does your location say ''the wesht'' if you're from Kerry. Btw I will happily accept my result on the day as I know I'm not great at maths it's just I thought the paper was a bit hard compared to recent years. It's over now, nothing can be done. Bring on paper 2!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Yes, I think drawing the dole is a better choice than repeating if you didn't fail. Repeating, as I'm sure you're aware, is quite expensive.

    The majority of people I spoke to about it, which was a large number of people, found it easy. Just because a small number of people came on here/the radio to complain about it doesn't mean it was hard.

    Eh... a vibe? You get the vibe that I'm fat? That makes sense. I'm not putting anyone down, I said the paper was simple. I'm allowed to do that. I'm not putting anyone down, despite what you might think. You, on the other hand...

    Well it was, thanks. :D

    Again, I'm not pretending anything. Why would I bother? If I wanted to troll I wouldn't do it here.

    Where do you live? I'll meet up with you if you want to sort this out like a man instead of whining away with your keyboard. I'm in Kerry, if you feel like coming down I'll meet up with you whenever. :)

    They really did think it was simple. The only people who didn't were the slackers. You're repeating because you failed/didn't get the points you wanted = you didn't put the work in, and you probably haven't this time either.

    I don't know, perhaps you could try making yourself look hard by resorting to name-calling and threats again?

    As for that last bit, that wasn't for you, that was for Neon-Circles. :D


    Drawing the dole and not going to college is in no way, shape or form better than repeating. I can't even comprehend how anyone would imagine that. Repeating has it's expenses but if you have a medical card it's not so bad.

    Again, your insinuation that only a small amount of people found it difficult is preposterous. But there's no point arguing this point anymore. You're sticking to your lies.

    Not putting anyone down? You don't think you're putting anyone down when you say the only people who found it hard are the slackers/lazy people? I know you might not understand this, but you don't know everyone's situation. You can't make assertions like that unless you want to come across as an arrogant idiot.

    Here is the perfect place to troll. Where else would you do it? :confused:

    Ya, I'm really going to travel half the country to meet you. However, if I ever am heading that direction, I'll give you a PM. Keep an eye out. I'd love to get you in person, don't think you'd be quite so arrogant face to face. I'm sure you'll be just as willing to meet me when the time comes. Internet warrior. ;)

    Nope, I'm repeating because I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Had an offer from UCD but turned it down. You can pretend I'm lying, though, if it makes you feel superior. :)

    Not trying to look hard, just being honest. You were the one who started this with your snide comments. And I know for a fact your arrogance would disappear if we were face to face. You really don't know me.

    Anyway, I'm finished with you. I think everyone can see you for what you are. I'm sure you'll do just super in the rest of your exams. ;) I bid you adieu, madam. And if there's an ignore button, I'll get my first use of it! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭moneyman


    Finical wrote: »
    Why does your location say ''the wesht'' if you're from Kerry. Btw I will happily accept my result on the day as I know I'm not great at maths it's just I thought the paper was a bit hard compared to recent years. It's over now, nothing can be done. Bring on paper 2!!!


    Perhaps because she is too scared to tell me her real location? Not that I'd do anything. Or perhaps it's the compulsive lying kicking in again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,761 ✭✭✭Lawliet


    Yes, I think drawing the dole is a better choice than repeating if you didn't fail. Repeating, as I'm sure you're aware, is quite expensive.
    It's not hugely expensive, sure it's not cheap but it's worth it you get your course. Anyway it's money that can be earned back easy once said repeat has graduated in 3+ years. Honestly why would anyone choose search for a job in this economic climate rather than attempted to get into college? Are you honestly telling me that if you didn't get your course you'd give up and spend your life drawing the dole? Really? Honestly at your intelligence I'm amazed it isn't foundation level maths your doing. That would actually explain a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Finical wrote: »
    Why does your location say ''the wesht'' if you're from Kerry. Btw I will happily accept my result on the day as I know I'm not great at maths it's just I thought the paper was a bit hard compared to recent years. It's over now, nothing can be done. Bring on paper 2!!!

    It's a common occurrence for people in the countryside (I'm not Kerry born and bred) to add a "H" after an s, e.g. that's the shtuff. EDIT: also, that's a great attitude to have instead of jumping on the bandwagon :)
    moneyman wrote: »
    Drawing the dole and not going to college is in no way, shape or form better than repeating. I can't even comprehend how anyone would imagine that. Repeating has it's expenses but if you have a medical card it's not so bad.

    Again, your insinuation that only a small amount of people found it difficult is preposterous. But there's no point arguing this point anymore. You're sticking to your lies.

    Not putting anyone down? You don't think you're putting anyone down when you say the only people who found it hard are the slackers/lazy people? I know you might not understand this, but you don't know everyone's situation. You can't make assertions like that unless you want to come across as an arrogant idiot.

    Here is the perfect place to troll. Where else would you do it? :confused:

    Ya, I'm really going to travel half the country to meet you. However, if I ever am heading that direction, I'll give you a PM. Keep an eye out. I'd love to get you in person, don't think you'd be quite so arrogant face to face. I'm sure you'll be just as willing to meet me when the time comes. Internet warrior. ;)

    Nope, I'm repeating because I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life. Had an offer from UCD but turned it down. You can pretend I'm lying, though, if it makes you feel superior. :)

    Not trying to look hard, just being honest. You were the one who started this with your snide comments. And I know for a fact your arrogance would disappear if we were face to face. You really don't know me.

    Anyway, I'm finished with you. I think everyone can see you for what you are. I'm sure you'll do just super in the rest of your exams. ;) I bid you adieu, madam. And if there's an ignore button, I'll get my first use of it! :D

    Not everyone has a medical card. It's still a waste of a year unless you didn't get your points for what you wanted/didn't matriculate. Which you obviously didn't if you turned a place down. Unless you're just afraid of the big bad world outside of school?

    It was a small amount of people. Why is that so hard for your feeble mind to understand? There are indeed people who are just not good at maths. However, there are plenty more who have the ability, but can't be bothered to put in the work and consequently find themselves back in school come September.

    Oh yes, I would totally risk getting banned from a very helpful forum :rolleyes: There are plenty of other places for that crap.

    I look receiving that PM, although I doubt I'll ever get it.

    You're being honest by calling me fat and stupid? You've never met me, don't have a clue what I look like, and have just done badly in an exam I flew through. Ok then...

    My friend, I appreciate your attempts to intimidate me, but unless you're actually going to follow through and pay me a visit, kindly STFU.

    Also, you seem to be confused with your third person pronouns. The 'man' in my username means you refer to me as 'he' when talking about me. Surely you can speak English properly? Or are you just gender-confused? :D

    Lawliet wrote: »
    It's not hugely expensive, sure it's not cheap but it's worth it you get your course. Anyway it's money that can be earned back easy once said repeat has graduated in 3+ years. Honestly why would anyone choose search for a job in this economic climate rather than attempted to get into college? Are you honestly telling me that if you didn't get your course you'd give up and spend your life drawing the dole? Really? Honestly at your intelligence I'm amazed it isn't foundation level maths your doing. That would actually explain a lot.
    Oh dear, it seems someone isn't reading properly. He claims to have gotten his points and says he didn't fail anything, but still repeated. Why, oh why, would you do that? Please tell me, I'm intrigued.
    Oh, and more insults! Very mature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108


    moneyman and munkymanmatt, this is entertaining:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Conor108 wrote: »
    moneyman and Cohen Melted Pushcart, this is entertaining:)
    No, it's not, it's extremely childish!
    moneyman wrote: »
    However, don't call me lazy again (if you do, you're admitting to being a raging homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that). You know nothing about me, you bellend.
    moneyman wrote: »
    Sorry, but you're an unrivalled ****wit. We had some idiots on this board this time last year, but you take the cake. You're obviously one of those annoying little chubby kids who comes out of every exam saying they've done well.

    You're a facetious little wankstain!
    Banned for 2 weeks for personal abuse.

    And Cohen Melted Pushcart, get down off your high horse before he dumps you in a ditch.

    You found the paper easy, great. Others didn't, it doesn't make them either lazy or stupid.

    /end of.

    Oh dear, it seems someone isn't reading properly. He claims to have gotten his points and says he didn't fail anything, but still repeated.
    Because he changed his mind about what he wanted to do, perhaps? And decided to repeat and aim for higher points?



    General comment: This forum does not tolerate personal abuse, or threats of violence, or indeed idiots having virtual pissing contests.

    My patience has been sorely tried by what I have just read in this thread.

    I would not advise trying it any further!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 SEInvincible


    Alright people i found it quite hard. i need a c3 :S anyone help me on these ?

    Q1

    B ii

    221 = .85 = 260

    260 x .14 = 36.4

    260 + 36.4 = 296.4


    8 iii

    x^3 - 3x +1

    3x^2 - 3

    Let = 0

    3x^2 -3 = 0

    3(x^2 - 1 ) = 0

    x = 3 and x = 1

    i ended up with the points 3, 19 and 1,-1.

    7 b ii


    i got 20?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Fete


    moneyman wrote: »
    Sorry, was going by your maturity level.



    My lord, you really are simple. Firstly, you think trying to find a job now, NOW, is a better option than repeating? Are you actually serious? With the amount of problems people are having finding work? I won't comment on how that makes you sound. Secondly, you think it's better to draw the dole than repeat? Seriously? Honestly, you have some sort of mental diffiency. Finally, if you really think that the only reason people repeat is because they failed a subject, you're extremely ignorant and naive. But we already knew that. For the record, I didn't fail anything, but if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe that. After all, we already know you believe alot of things that aren't true.

    I agree. I am repeating this year in a school with a full 7th year for people who repeat (100 people). A lot of them didn't repeat because they failed. And repeating is a very good option right now instead of heading out into the world where there are so few jobs available.



    Anyway guys and girls, it's over now. just focus on paper 2 before drawing up your horrible conclusion. Mightened be so bad :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Fete wrote: »
    I agree. I am repeating this year in a school with a full 7th year for people who repeat (100 people). A lot of them didn't repeat because they failed. And repeating is a very good option right now instead of heading out into the world where there are so few jobs available.
    Perfectly valid point, but please let it go now.

    This argument is officially over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 bobsy


    Did anyone get these co-ordinates for 6c(ii) (-1,4) and (1,-4)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    296.4 is right. Cud sum1 put answers up.
    Alright people i found it quite hard. i need a c3 :S anyone help me on these ?

    Q1

    B ii

    221 = .85 = 260

    260 x .14 = 36.4

    260 + 36.4 = 296.4


    8 iii

    x^3 - 3x +1

    3x^2 - 3

    Let = 0

    3x^2 -3 = 0

    3(x^2 - 1 ) = 0

    x = 3 and x = 1

    i ended up with the points 3, 19 and 1,-1.

    7 b ii


    i got 20?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    bobsy wrote: »
    Did anyone get these co-ordinates for 6c(ii) (-1,4) and (1,-4)

    I don't have the paper in front of me but those co-ordinates sound familiar so I'd say you have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭Danger781


    Lawliet wrote: »
    Where's this majority you keep talking about? Because the majority of people I've spoken to or heard from -both on the internet, from other students in my school and even the teachers- thought it wasn't a nice paper at all. I'm a repeat, got a B1 last year and was only a few marks off an A. I've spent the last year going over and over every past paper and mock I could get my hands on and I still thought some parts of that paper were nasty.

    This isn't a few people complaining about an exam because they haven't done the work, (knowing the swots who hang out on this board I bet they've all been working their arses off :p). This is a lot of people complaining about a genuinely tough paper.

    As I've said before I disagree with people who though it was a hard paper :) Challenging paper by all means, but nothing there was too difficult and I think most people should do just fine.. :)

    There was a few notable changes this year but if you read the question carefully it shouldn't have caught you out too much. (E.g. Q7)

    That's just my point of view on it anyway. Then again, I'm pretty good at maths :P I've been getting constant A's and B's all year so I'm really hoping to get an A1 in this exam :D

    I must get my teachers point of view on it though. Would love to see what she thought of it :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 escalate


    The paper is decent for the former honours students,high achievers,and students with natural mathematical capabilities.However,the paper is unfair for pass students,who did place a great amount of work throughout the years,and students with mediocre mathematical capabilities.In conclusion,the paper itself is not quite so ordinary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭Danger781


    escalate wrote: »
    The paper is decent for the former honours students,high achievers,and students with natural mathematical capabilities.However,the paper is unfair for pass students,who did place a great amount of work throughout the years,and students with mediocre mathematical capabilities.In conclusion,the paper itself is not quite so ordinary.

    /thread :)


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