Illegal Drugs - What Have Taken?

Dublin_Gunner

thebigbiffo wrote: »

makes perfect sense...the top 2 grow naturally, everything else is synthetic

Cocaine & heroin are not synthetic.

Pace2008

thebigbiffo wrote: »

makes perfect sense...the top 2 grow naturally, everything else is synthetic

That has no relevance to the chemicals' safety profile.

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Cocaine & heroin are not synthetic.

Heroin is semi-synthetic.

ntlbell

gsxr1 wrote: »

Ok .. maybe i misunderstand.

Is it not highly additive?

should I give it a go:D

It is highly addictive.

Only you can answer if you should try it or not, it's against the forum rules for me to tell you what you should do.

phantom_lord

thebigbiffo wrote: »

makes perfect sense...the top 2 grow naturally, everything else is synthetic

what's the significance of that?

Pace2008

gsxr1 wrote: »

Ok .. maybe i misunderstand.

Is it not highly additive?

should I give it a go:D

It's as addictive as they come, but even then it would take several weeks of habitual use to develop a physical dependence.

You don't get addicted to something from trying it once.

ntlbell

phantom_lord wrote: »

what's the significance of that?

if cows and sheep etc are pissing and ****ting all over it, it's less harmful than a clean lab obviously

Pace2008

phantom_lord wrote: »

what's the significance of that?

I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question, and you probably know that a lot of people buy into the specious notion that natural necessarily equals good, despite the fact that some of the most dangerous drugs like datura and deadly nightshade come straight from the ground.

Just look at the market there is for natural (ineffective) herbal remedies and you'll see how prevalent this belief is.

phantom_lord

Pace2008 wrote: »

I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question, and you probably know that a lot of people buy into the specious notion that natural necessarily equals good, despite the fact that some of the most dangerous drugs like datura and deadly nightshade come straight from the ground.

Just look at the market there is for natural (ineffective) herbal remedies and you'll see how prevalent this belief is.

you took the fun out of that

Fremen

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Can't ever fly a plane if you've taken LSD.

Absolute nonsense. LSD is metabolised within a day or so of ingestion. Its half-life is around five hours. The urban myth about it staying in your spine is, well, an urban myth.

gsxr1

Pace2008 wrote: »

It's as addictive as they come, but even then it would take several weeks of habitual use to develop a physical dependence.

You don't get addicted to something from trying it once.

im going to stick with caffeine. For now anyways.

Does it not scare the sh1t out of you , sticking a needle in your arm and pushing the stuff in.

Like taking a step too far?

I mean I have tried everything else on the list except crack. I have always thought of the last one as something I would be better off without.

Although I would love to feel its effects . I would be afraid I would like it.
To many of those peeps begging on the streets in Dublin right now, liked it to much. scary stuff.

Pace2008

Fremen wrote: »

Absolute nonsense. LSD is metabolised within a day or so of ingestion. Its half-life is around five hours. The urban myth about it staying in your spine is, well, an urban myth.

I'm not sure if there's any truth in what he's saying, but LSD can, in rare instances, cause HPPD, which would be a bit of an occupational hazard for a pilot.

There's no way they could actually test if you'd taken LSD though, unless you'd tripped a few hours before a drugs test.

Pace2008

gsxr1 wrote: »

im going to stick with caffeine. For now anyways.

Does it not scare the sh1t out of you , sticking a needle in your arm and pushing the stuff in.

Like taking a step too far?

I have no idea; I've never tried it and it's not something that interests me (I like uppers). If I had to take it I'd smoke it anyway.

My name is URL

phantom_lord wrote: »

that doesn't make any sense

Why doesn't it? Do you know how cocaine is extracted?

phantom_lord

gsxr1 wrote: »

Although I would love to feel its effects . I would be afraid I would like it.
To many of those peeps begging on the streets in Dublin right now, liked it to much. scary stuff.

I wouldn't really blame the drug itself for that though. I asked someone about knows a lot about this area about addictions and he posted up this interesting reply. One of the things in it was that given a richer environment people are much more likely to be able to control their use of drugs. So I don't think well balanced people would have that much to fear.

ntlbell

gsxr1 wrote: »

im going to stick with caffeine. For now anyways.

Does it not scare the sh1t out of you , sticking a needle in your arm and pushing the stuff in.

Like taking a step too far?

I mean I have tried everything else on the list except crack. I have always thought of the last one as something I would be better off without.

Although I would love to feel its effects . I would be afraid I would like it.
To many of those peeps begging on the streets in Dublin right now, liked it to much. scary stuff.

people will piss their lives away be it for drink,gambling,heroin,whatever because they're morons. nothing else.

phantom_lord

My name is URL wrote: »

Why doesn't it? Do you know how cocaine is extracted?

because natural != good
and synthetic != bad

ntlbell

phantom_lord wrote: »

I wouldn't really blame the drug itself for that though. I asked someone about knows a lot about this area about addictions and he posted up this interesting reply. One of the things in it was that given a richer environment people are much more likely to be able to control their use of drugs. So I don't think well balanced people would have that much to fear.

nice plug lol

phantom_lord

lol. that wasn't the intention. it doesn't need a plug anyway!

My name is URL

phantom_lord wrote: »

because natural != good
and synthetic != bad

I never said that being natural was better health-wise, I could grow the top 2 drugs in my own garden and use them without any preparation.. which is good because no cartels are making monopolies from what I choose to do, and less people's lives are being affected negatively because of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF_kPEl0OCU

Pace2008

phantom_lord wrote: »

I wouldn't really blame the drug itself for that though. I asked someone about knows a lot about this area about addictions and he posted up this interesting reply. One of the things in it was that given a richer environment people are much more likely to be able to control their use of drugs. So I don't think well balanced people would have that much to fear.

Reminiscent of the Rat Park experiment, which also suggested that addiction was primarily the result of a dull and/or depressing environment.

phantom_lord

My name is URL wrote: »

I never said that being natural was better health-wise, I could grow the top 2 drugs in my own garden and use them without any preparation.. which is good because no cartels are making monopolies from what I choose to do, and less people's lives are being affected negatively because of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF_kPEl0OCU

that's why i only ever buy fairtrade cocaine

celtic Liger

ketamine

Deleted User wrote: »

It's legal

if you're a vet.

if i was driving down the road tomorrow and a gard stopped me and took an ounce of ket off me, and ive misplaced desert orchids stethoscope, im going to be in for one long night down the station.

top top drug, really suited to those of us more into our mind fcuks so not for the faint minded.

Snowie

phantom_lord wrote: »

because natural != good
and synthetic != bad

cleerly you havent had mdma then :pac:

Jev/N

gsxr1 wrote: »

I did understand why someone would take Heroin ??

Surly everyone knows by now the outcome . death, poverty, soiling the pants, Aids yada yada yada.....

Wasn't there an article uploaded on a thread here before about the upper-middle class guy with a nice job and family who was taking heroin on a regular basis with little issue.

A lot of the issues relating to it seem to be blown out of proportion and tend to do with the manner you take the drug and the person you are, more than anything else (specifically the type of drug)

bluto63 wrote: »

No it's not, it's a class C.

Oh and AFAIK we don't have a classification system, that's the UK

Dublin_Gunner

Snow-Monkey wrote: »

cleerly you havent had mdma then :pac:

You tryin to make out MDMA is bad? Its one of the best drugs goin, and has been for 30 years. Its just difficult to get your hands on these days, though more proper E are starting to come through again, thankfully.

Everyone has been passing off bloody Pip's as yokes for about 2/3 years now, absolute joke.

It gotten to the point that an E will cost nearly as much as it did 20 years ago.

ibarelycare

I've done a few on the list, don't do any of them anymore though. I only took LSD once, hallucinagenic drugs don't sit well with me. For that reason I'd never take mushies. I did take a pill laced with acid one night and I thought I was in Super Mario Land. I walking around the club, jumping in the air every few seconds thinking I was hitting the boxes with my head. That was fun!

Dublin_Gunner

ibarelycare wrote: »

I've done a few on the list, don't do any of them anymore though. I only took LSD once, hallucinagenic drugs don't sit well with me. For that reason I'd never take mushies. I did take a pill laced with acid one night and I thought I was in Super Mario Land. I walking around the club, jumping in the air every few seconds thinking I was hitting the boxes with my head. That was fun!

Ha ha thats hilarious! You didn't eat a fire flower at any stage did you? lol

I'm not one for the hallucinogens either. I rather the rush / out of it type drugs if you know what I mean! Amphetamines, MDMA, Coke etc are my fav's.

Ash.J.Williams

thebigbiffo wrote: »

makes perfect sense...the top 2 grow naturally, everything else is synthetic

Cannabis is one of the filthiest drugs on the planet......doesn't put me off it, but it's probably dirtier than most E's.

Ash.J.Williams

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

You tryin to make out MDMA is bad? Its one of the best drugs goin, and has been for 30 years. Its just difficult to get your hands on these days, though more proper E are starting to come through again, thankfully.

Everyone has been passing off bloody Pip's as yokes for about 2/3 years now, absolute joke.

It gotten to the point that an E will cost nearly as much as it did 20 years ago.

Last time I looked, the cops still value pills at the same price they were 20 years ago!!

Dublin_Gunner

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Last time I looked, the cops still value pills at the same price they were 20 years ago!!

lol well yeah thats true!

But its now at the point where a proper E (if you can get one) might set you back €10-15.

I'm sure once more floods the market, the price will drop again, but there's been that little in the country over the past couple of years, I wouldn't be holding my breath.

A quick trip to pillreports.com will show you the amount of rubbish out there, and the small amounts of good stuff creeping back in