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Biology - Thoughts?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Behind you Joey


    Wrong answer cancels a right one unfortunately.
    Also, if they ask for 2 examples and you give 3, if 2 are right and 1 wrong then you only get the marks for 1 of the right answers.

    I'm pretty sure that's only for section A...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭stainluss


    It depends. If the question wants 2 answers then no, but if it only requires one answer and you give a right and a wrong, they'll cancel each other out.

    if it said one way which a knowledge of dormancy helps farmers, and I put two ways, but only one is right, I get no marks?
    Whats the case for Q's like that where there is more than one possible answer?

    For Hypothesis, I put down: an explanation (or best guess) based on observation

    Would I lose marks for the words in brackets?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭ummtea


    What blood vessel brings blood to the liver? The Aorta?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Dacentdee


    duno bout ye, but i love question eight! it was like 6 part a)'s :) for the genetics crosses question i worked out the last percent as being 50% , but that was already there so just threw down 25% ..doh:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭DancingQueen:)


    I thought it was difficult enough, answered all of the questions so they'll pick my best ones. I love biology so a little dissapointed that I won't get the A but it was my last test so not going to dwell too much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    ummtea wrote: »
    What blood vessel brings blood to the liver? The Aorta?

    No! The Hepatic Artery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    Dacentdee wrote: »
    duno bout ye, but i love question eight! it was like 6 part a)'s :) for the genetics crosses question i worked out the last percent as being 50% , but that was already there so just threw down 25% ..doh:P

    Question 8 was ridiculous. I started it at 12.20 and got it finished.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 72 ✭✭EvilLlamaThingy


    It was absolutely lovely apart from some awkward phrasing =D I'd say at worst I got a B1 ^_^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭ummtea


    No! The Hepatic Artery.

    Ohh that's grand thanks! I put down Hepatic Artery and put a line through it. Hopefully they'll mark it. :/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    ummtea wrote: »
    Ohh that's grand thanks! I put down Hepatic Artery and put a line through it. Hopefully they'll mark it. :/

    Did you write another answer with it? A wrong answer and a correct one will cancel each other out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭ummtea


    Did you write another answer with it? A wrong answer and a correct one will cancel each other out.

    Yeah I wrote Aorta. Wouldn't Aorta be generally correct since the Hepatic Artery stems from it though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭lc2010


    I thought it was fine, I wouldn't say piss easy but wasn't too hard, I didn't like the long DNA q so I did 5. Was definitely harder than previous years but I think(hope!!:o) I still got an A1!
    The shorts and experiments were pretty nice!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    Did you write another answer with it? A wrong answer and a correct one will cancel each other out.

    but if you cancel a wrong answer by putting a line through it then surely they cannot deduct marks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭lc2010


    ummtea wrote: »
    Yeah I wrote Aorta. Wouldn't Aorta be generally correct since the Hepatic Artery stems from it though?

    Dont think so as pretty much every artery apart from the one which goes to the lungs branches off the aorta. sorry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭JellyBeans92


    I'm hoping to get my mock grade anyway, a B3.
    The paper was ok, thought it was a pinch mean the way TWO of the Section A questions were on Microbiology, didn't see that coming though?!

    Was hit by a moment of inspiration 10mins before the exams to look over the heart experiment and was delighted!?! :D

    Did every question except Q13, not because I'm supersticious, just didn't like the look of the plant stuff!?

    Overall it was a nice paper, and even if you don't agree.. sure the sticky flap is now sealed forever (.. well till the examiner opens it?. :P )

    2 exams to go

    Happy (Almost) Summer everyone!?

    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Answered all of the long questions, all of the parts to the 14 and 15, was a brilliant paper. Shorts were a bit of a pain, bloody ameoba and I always mix up the ecology stuff, but overall pretty happy with it.

    waffled my way through the heart experiment, and the hypthesis one was the eaisest experiment I have every seen. Beauty of a paper. Got an A1 in the mock, so hopefully got one here :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    pathway33 wrote: »
    but if you cancel a wrong answer by putting a line through it then surely they cannot deduct marks?

    He wrote the right answer, cancelled it and put a wrong answer. They can't deduct for a wrong cancelled answer if you then put the right one down, but you it works the other way too, in that you can't gain marks from a cancelled right answer if you put a wrong one down next to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Kylzer911


    Amoeba - Progametangium = B , i hope, there legs basically...? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭ummtea


    lc2010 wrote: »
    Dont think so as pretty much every artery apart from the one which goes to the lungs branches off the aorta. sorry!

    haha very true!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭A19B1C12


    I found myself guessing a fair few answers but I reckon I may have got a "D/C"...hopefully anyway! I hope I answered the questions right but I thought those true or false part C's were very handy!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 drurz57


    yano when they askd for an example of diffusion in the human body i said "salt diffuses into the asending loop of henle in the nephron in the kidney in the human body" will that get me my marks or am i wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Kylzer911 wrote: »
    Amoeba - Progametangium = B , i hope, there legs basically...? :pac:

    That ameoba bastard, pain in the whole :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Kylzer911 wrote: »
    Amoeba - Progametangium = B , i hope, there legs basically...? :pac:

    pseudopodia :/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 bearcub


    it was ok . fairly confident on my A1.

    thought it was a bit awkwardly phrased in parts. particularly the heart dissection.

    well needed more space for the IAA experiment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭blubloblu


    Kylzer911 wrote: »
    Amoeba - Progametangium = B , i hope, there legs basically...? :pac:

    Pseudopodia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Eluminous


    Fairly nice paper, but some really wtf! phrasing, like the "outcomes" of protein synthesis?

    15 (c) too was a bit wierd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    pseudopodia :/

    I said psuedopods, if I don't that, I will burn down the SEC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 TowlieMcD


    what did everyone say for the question about the virus and the swine flu and about young people being more susceptible? apart from that the paper was fine
    A1 in the bag! (joke! would be disappointed with anything below a B1 though tbh)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    That part in the dna question about the 3 options was horribly worded!
    The second part made up for it - write a sentence about each of heterozygous etc...


    The reflex arc/hormone question was a nice...

    Enzyme question was fine as well!


    Photosynthesis q was perfect , hopefully 30/30 marks for it...

    Just one question , it gets the H from the NADPH and the ssimple compund that gives energy is the ATP right??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭Kylzer911


    pseudopodia :/

    sake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    PARARORY wrote: »
    That part in the dna question about the 3 options was horribly worded!
    The second part made up for it - write a sentence about each of heterozygous etc...


    The reflex arc/hormone question was a nice...

    Enzyme question was fine as well!


    Photosynthesis q was perfect , hopefully 30/30 marks for it...

    Just one question , it gets the H from the NADPH and the ssimple compund that gives energy is the ATP right??

    It gets the H from the splitting of water in the light stage, and energy from ATP. IN the Dark stage it get's the H from NADPH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭lc2010


    Ashashi wrote: »
    I said psuedopods, if I don't that, I will burn down the SEC.


    You Have to get that!! Its like saying mitochondrions for mitochondria!!

    If you don't Ill join you in burnin the place down!!!lol;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    It gets the H from the splitting of water in the light stage, and energy from ATP. IN the Dark stage it get's the H from NADPH

    I thought it asked where did it get it for the dark stage?
    Because NADPH breaks down to protons (H) etc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    PARARORY wrote: »
    I thought it asked where did it get it for the dark stage?
    Because NADPH breaks down to protons (H) etc...

    It asked where it got the energy for the dark stage reaction... answer: ATP. NADPH is used for protons and electrons, not energy :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    PARARORY wrote: »
    I thought it asked where did it get it for the dark stage?
    Because NADPH breaks down to protons (H) etc...

    Ah here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭stainluss


    Ashashi wrote: »
    It gets the H from the splitting of water in the light stage, and energy from ATP. IN the Dark stage it get's the H from NADPH

    Where did ya say it got the electrons from? Splitting of water also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Mwah


    oh no :( i dont remember it asking about the dark stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    stainluss wrote: »
    Where did ya say it got the electrons from? Splitting of water also?

    I cannot remember if I said where, I just said electrons pass through enzymes to convert Adp to ATP and all that lark.

    Yeah, it asked Light Stage I am fairly sure. I called the first stage cyclic photophosphorilation the first time....... then changed it to light stage.

    I don't even know what that is, it just sounded... biological at the time....:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 cweeva


    NADPH is right isn't it.. cause it asked what simple molecule did it get the H from for the formation of glucose in the second stage of photosynthesis........


    Btw i'll be joining ye if we don't get Pseudopods!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭stainluss


    cweeva wrote: »
    NADPH is right isn't it.. cause it asked what simple molecule did it get the H from for the formation of glucose in the second stage of photosynthesis........

    **** I said splitting of water, sounds like NADPH is right, though:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    It asked where it got the energy for the dark stage reaction... answer: ATP. NADPH is used for protons and electrons, not energy

    Yeah I got that part right.......
    Just one question , it gets the H from the NADPH and the simple compund that gives energy is the ATP right??

    I was asking about the first part. ;)

    It gets the H from the splitting of water in the light stage, and energy from ATP. IN the Dark stage it get's the H from NADPH


    NADPH delivers electrons and a proton to CO2 (NADP ? NADP+ + 2e- + H+)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    **** I said splitting of water, sounds like NADPH is right, though

    and
    NADPH is right isn't it..

    Yes it is!






    * Love when people say other people are wrong , are rude about it , then turns out they are wrong themselves... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Behind you Joey


    Will ye chill the fúck out it's only worth about 3 marks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Did it say second stage? I amn't sure, ah well it would only be worth 3 marks anyway. I hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    Did it say second stage? I amn't sure, ah well it would only be worth 3 marks anyway. I hope.

    Yeh it did , and yeah it would only be 3 marks so its not big deal :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Ashashi


    Meh, will check later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 casadenikki


    era sure the H in the NAPDH comes from the H in the water so tis all the same :rolleyes:

    question 12 had to be the biggest joke of a question ever, so you could do that without ever going to a class in your life:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Dacentdee


    hmmm when it said simple compound for the electrons i just said water, h2o?didn mention photolyisis lik? .... i know its only three marks, but three marks can turn into thirty marks very easily....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭seanbmc


    After the exam everyone was discussing how badly they drew the male reproductive system :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭PARARORY


    After the exam everyone was discussing how badly they drew the male reproductive system

    Our teacher this morning giving us advice if it comes up ; " Just look down boys , look down!! " - Shes female btw =)


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