MMA TOURNAMENT IN CORK

o.murphy

Possible MMA tournament in Cork In mid/late August

My idea for this tournament is to have two categories:

A, - Head shots allowed standing, but not on the ground

&

B, - No head shots atall

---

For both categories fighters will wear:

• MMA Gloves
• groin guard
• shin pads
• mouth guard

Fights will be 2 X 3minute rounds

---

No details for this event have been put down yet, for fight rules and date.
If a sufficient amount of interest is shown this event will go ahead and full rules and details will go up.

If you are intersted you can assume the rules for now, things wont be massively different from any other event.


This post is to find out if there is any demand for such an event?

Would people enter the A category fight?

Cheers!

All comments welcome

Clive

For an event with headstrikes, pretty much every coach will want to know who the referee is, who the doctor is, and how much will people be paid. Once you have those sorted, then you can get an idea of numbers.

o.murphy

Thanks!

Its not gonna be a show or anything, it'll be for guys and girls who train and want to try out there skills in a fight. No one will get paid for fighting so maybe if people are expecting to get paid for a "head shots allowed fight" maybe it'd be better to not have Head shots fight..

This tournament will be held in a gym in Cork

r_obric

what gym is running it?

isnt there rules set already that covers the different rule classes in MMA, A, B, C class and all that

Martin Walker

r_obric wrote: »

what gym is running it?

isnt there rules set already that covers the different rule classes in MMA, A, B, C class and all that

Yes there is a standardized rule set in Ireland. And there is a pool of quality officials too. As said above clubs will need to know who the ref is first. Its down to coaches. Fighters dont take it upon themselves to organize fights thats not the way its done.

And also August is stacked with established MMA events already. I dont see many going for this as it stands.

o.murphy

Could some one post those rules up please? i know of them yeah, and sure if they work il go with them! cheers

Daniel2oo9

Would this be for ametures as im only training for 5 months which will be 7 in august,dont know if i should do this or MMA League

o.murphy

Sure do both man! This one will probably be smaller though. Its all experience. Yeah its amature and for more advanced fighters too, every one really. Divisions will be made when the event becomes more concrete, but again, it'll be simular to other events, you know youre self, people of same experience will be matched against each other. The main things here are fair, equal fights and fun!

Martin Walker

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Would this be for ametures as im only training for 5 months which will be 7 in august,dont know if i should do this or MMA League

Its down to your coach if he/she thinks you are ready to fight. Im sure you are raring to go yourself as thats what MMA training does to you and that positive attitude is needed. But dont rush man. In my opinion the League is the best way for Novice MMA.

Daniel2oo9

Martin Walker wrote: »

Its down to your coach if he/she thinks you are ready to fight. Im sure you are raring to go yourself as thats what MMA training does to you and that positive attitude is needed. But dont rush man. In my opinion the League is the best way for Novice MMA.

V.Good.
Thing is this is in cork where im from and would be easier,but on the other hand the MMA League has better teen divisions for my weight class,LHW

r_obric

what gym is running it?

o.murphy

r_obric wrote: »

what gym is running it?

Its not being run by a club, its just myself organising it. But it will be held in K2C Martial Arts centre down in the north point business park

Daniel2oo9

o.murphy wrote: »

Its not being run by a club, its just myself organising it. But it will be held in K2C Martial Arts centre down in the north point business park

Your ****tin me,i live in onlow about a 5 min walk from there,is that Liam Og?

bjj-fighter

o.murphy wrote: »

Its not being run by a club, its just myself organising it. But it will be held in K2C Martial Arts centre down in the north point business park

Who are you may I ask? MMA backround?

da-bres

http://www.k2c.ie/ This your website??

cowzerp

o.murphy wrote: »

Its not being run by a club, its just myself organising it. But it will be held in K2C Martial Arts centre down in the north point business park

I would not recommend you run an MMA event if you don't even know the basic rule sets used in Ireland-also i would not be too keen on a Karate lad running MMA events either just like i would not run a Karate event.

my suggestion would be too take part in a few amateur leagues if your interested in getting involved with MMA and leave the shows to people with more experience as there is already to many shows out there and its getting ridiculous now.

some issues, lack of relevant experience, August is packed out with shows already which you'd know if involved in the scene.

The Shows been run are already been watered down, now the MMA league is getting diluted too..

Safety of fighters fighting on a show without knowledge of MMA and who don't seem to know anything of rules, officials or even approaching clubs directly...

weemate

No disrespect to the orginal poster as I dont know him or anything about his background...but what you are proposing is mental.You dont know the rules involved in MMA at any level,you are not experienced to officiate in MMA,you are clearly not a promoter.....and yet you want to stage an MMA event???

Liam Og

I'm the "Karate Lad". I'm not organising this event. I was asked if our gym could be used as a venue and I was happy to say yes.

I know Owen and I know he's conscientious enough to run a safe event. I believe that's why he's posted up here - to include the community in the discussion, to get advice from those more experienced in running MMA tournaments and to see if running the event would be a good idea in the first place.

As far as I can see, as long as careful and strict attention is placed on safety, rules and good refereeing, then extra events can only help promote the sport. If our gym is a venue, I'd be extremely insistent on the safety element above all else but like I said, as far as organising the tournament goes, it aint me!

Daniel2oo9

Liam Og wrote: »

I'm the "Karate Lad". I'm not organising this event. I was asked if our gym could be used as a venue and I was happy to say yes.

I know Owen and I know he's conscientious enough to run a safe event. I believe that's why he's posted up here - to include the community in the discussion, to get advice from those more experienced in running MMA tournaments and to see if running the event would be a good idea in the first place.

As far as I can see, as long as careful and strict attention is placed on safety, rules and good refereeing, then extra events can only help promote the sport. If our gym is a venue, I'd be extremely insistent on the safety element above all else but like I said, as far as organising the tournament goes, it aint me!

I know liam an he does promote a lot of safety in his Gym,id love to fight in this if it goes ahead but it would be my first fight and id want to be safe

pablohoney87

How long has the OP been involved in MMA in ireland. Does his gym offer MMA classes? Has he ever fought an MMA bout at any level?

Daniel2oo9

pablohoney87 wrote: »

How long has the OP been involved in MMA in ireland. Does his gym offer MMA classes? Has he ever fought an MMA bout at any level?

Well i know Liam the owner of the gym who is hosting the event.Has fought in MMA Before

pablohoney87

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Well i know Liam the owner of the gym who is hosting the event.Has fought in MMA Before

By the sounds of it Liam has just given permission for the event to be held at his venue. He is not organizing it.

Liam Og

Thanks for the kind words Daniel but I'm not an MMA fighter. I do enjoy practicing it and have competed once earlier this year. We don't offer MMA classes at K2C but like I said, I'm not orgainising this event... only offering a venue.

Daniel2oo9

Liam Og wrote: »

Thanks for the kind words Daniel but I'm not an MMA fighter. I do enjoy practicing it and have competed once earlier this year. We don't offer MMA classes at K2C but like I said, I'm not orgainising this event... only offering a venue.

It would be a great venue for an event.Is there many people comming for open training at 2 today im gonna be looking for some sparring partners

Martin Walker

I just read this thread again. Is it serious? I mean come on, some dude with no experience in MMA except that he likes to "practice it" comes along with no info on anything except venue and wants to put an MMA "tournament" on. (by the way what do you mean by tournament? Like and 8 man or something?) This has to be a joke.
If it is serious do some research first mate. This forum contains all the info you need to know that the way youve gone about things really isnt the way its done.

John Ferguson

Martin Walker wrote: »

I just read this thread again. Is it serious? I mean come on, some dude with no experience in MMA except that he likes to "practice it" comes along with no info on anything except venue and wants to put an MMA "tournament" on. (by the way what do you mean by tournament? Like and 8 man or something?) This has to be a joke.
If it is serious do some research first mate. This forum contains all the info you need to know that the way youve gone about things really isnt the way its done.

Tut tut tut Marty:)

I remember not too long ago some other idiot turned up with no mma experience wanting to run a 8 man tournament. Lol

but on a serious note, I like to see new shows on the calander (and Cork is one of the cities Cage Contender is coming to in 2011). As stated by many above fighter safety is (or should be) the single most important thing for any show. I would suggest the op speaks to coaches and seeks advice on what they expect and then contacts one of the great refs we have on the circut (fivers in the post please gents:P ).

Anyway good luck with it if it goes ahead and don't forget to ad it to the events section on www.fight.ie

Martin Walker

fightie wrote: »

Tut tut tut Marty:)

I remember not too long ago some other idiot turned up with no mma experience wanting to run a 8 man tournament. Lol

but on a serious note, I like to see new shows on the calander (and Cork is one of the cities Cage Contender is coming to in 2011). As stated by many above fighter safety is (or should be) the single most important thing for any show. I would suggest the op speaks to coaches and seeks advice on what they expect and then contacts one of the great refs we have on the circut (fivers in the post please gents:P ).

Anyway good luck with it if it goes ahead and don't forget to ad it to the events section on www.fight.ie

I didnt call anyone an idiot!!

And your no Idiot John. Well kinda.....;)

The difference between you and this thread. Is that you had a full set of Rules and a structure to what you wanted to do before you posted up here looking for fighters. You also contacted clubs and coaches directly.
This thread has nothing but someone no-one knows basically saying "if i set up a fight night in a local gym will anyone go?"
You must admit its not the way to go about things.
I find it strange.

John Ferguson

Martin Walker wrote: »

I didnt call anyone an idiot!!

And your no Idiot John. Well kinda.....;)

The difference between you and this thread. Is that you had a full set of Rules and a structure to what you wanted to do before you posted up here looking for fighters. You also contacted clubs and coaches directly.
This thread has nothing but someone no-one knows basically saying "if i set up a fight night in a local gym will anyone go?"
You must admit its not the way to go about things.
I find it strange.

lol I know you didn't call anyone an idiot mate, but I get called it at least twice a day

you are totally correct, that is def not the way to go about things. I learned very quickly that the only way to make it work was to engage with the clubs, will be interesting to see how this one turns out

o.murphy

Ok, people really need to read posts with a little more care.


My name is Owen, I have trained in BJJ - Gi and NoGi, Muay Thai and currently boxing and have trained in them for a significant amount of time. I want to hold and MMA tournament In Cork over the summer, i picked august as il be busy in september and july will be too early for any one who wishes to enter to be ready. In my search for a venue i asked K2C Martial arts centre and they said yes. The guy that runs it Liam Og is just a genuinely nice guy, very generous and giving :cool: the only involvement K2C and liam Og will have in this entire event is that it will be held there.

My reasons for posting here and giving very ruff info is because i wanted to see what people are looking for, as i mentioned originally. I didnt want to make out rules, categories and all that and it not cater for the Cork people. I wanted to see what THE PEOPLE were interested in and then make an event that suited them. my motivation for doing this you may ask? I love MMA, I love martial arts and i want to see events, shows, tournaments, exhibtitions etc every where! Im not looking to make money, im not looking for any thing.. find it hard to believe or not. Im open to help, im open to suggestion, but people with negative attitudes need to go and hit the punch bag for half an hour :P

I know about the the categories, A,B,C,D etc, I know about the rules and categories for most MMA events held around ireland, and for that matter the UK. But those rules dont always fit people, and as there is No OFFICIAL mma body in ireland, Theres nothing OFFICIAL to go by. and when i say official body i mean A body that regulates mma clubs and events in ireland.

There could never ever be too many events, im aware of other mma events on in august but could some one post up a list of mma events happening in Cork in August??! :eek:

And when i call it an event, or an tournament, To be honest I dont know what to call it! it is what it is :cool: dont get hooked up on the small things.

people train in mma, or muay thai, bjj, sambo, boxing, judo, karate, TKD, kickboxing.. so on, and i wanna give them a chance to test out there skills, in a safe and fun atmosphere! simples

The event will have medical personell present and experienced martial art refs.

And, it wont be a tournament as in you fight and advance to the next stage, it'll be, you fight and if your up for fighting again we'll see who else is and do it like that..

And of course i was going to approach coaches and gyms in person, but i cant do that untill i have all the details worked out, which is what i came on here to do, to work out details.

Barry.Oglesby

I know about the the categories, A,B,C,D etc, I know about the rules and categories for most MMA events held around ireland, and for that matter the UK. But those rules dont always fit people

You're kidding me? A buffet of 4 (possibly 5) rulesets and someone can't find one to suit them?

people train in mma, or muay thai, bjj, sambo, boxing, judo, karate, TKD, kickboxing.. so on, and i wanna give them a chance to test out there skills, in a safe and fun atmosphere! simples

That's fine and dandy, but there are numerous opportunities to compete in this way in August. I know what you're saying; that there's none in Cork, but I think you'll really struggle to find competitors in August. Why not try again later in the year?

Clive

If you're serious about this, I'd suggest you use the MMA league rules and keep it as far from the MMA league dates as possible. Start small and use a repechage system. Get a few well known guys to agree in principle to ref if they're free and go from there.

Daniel2oo9

Clive wrote: »

If you're serious about this, I'd suggest you use the MMA league rules and keep it as far from the MMA league dates as possible. Start small and use a repechage system. Get a few well known guys to agree in principle to ref if they're free and go from there.

Thats what i was thinking exactly.Use the MMA League rules as theyre the best for newbies starting to fight

weemate

ok reading your post.....firstly,its not that we read your original post carelessly,it's more you worded it wrong.Secondly,the rules system that is in place in the country at the minute works...now Im abit of a socialist myself but you continually say that you want to suit the PEOPLE!!!...very well.....but you are now going to have a load of clubs with different ideas on how the rules should work....to suit them.....so good luck with that.
If you are going to stage an event,as many of the others have already stated,use a recognised set of rules,as its on a matted area,'d' class is good,find a date in a month that is not saturated with other shows,like august,contact the coaches,secure GOOD QUALIFIED EXPERIENCED REFS and take it from there.

youllneverknow

o.murphy wrote: »

There could never ever be too many events, im aware of other mma events on in august but could some one post up a list of mma events happening in Cork in August??! :eek:

to many shows close to each other and not enough fighters to fill the cards



what difference does it make if its in cork or donegal if people want to fight they will trave.l i know people who are going to the bjj Munster open next week end from dublin. if your not really willing to travel to fight then your really hindering yourself.



"people train in mma, or muay thai, bjj, sambo, boxing, judo, karate, TKD, kickboxing.. so on, and i wanna give them a chance to test out there skills, in a safe and fun atmosphere! simples"

so if i entered i could be fighting some one from a tkd club or a karate club? then its not really a mma fight event. if your going to suite everyone then karate will more then likely fight a karate fight instead of an mma fight.
looks to me you just want to see more shows down in cork and not travel.

if your familiar with the rules then why not use the rules that every one knows.make sure you tell them what the rules are and not just say its C class rules. explain the rules eg punches kicke to the head standing no elbows at all no head shots on the ground and what moves are banned etc
have a rules meeting before hand explaining these too and what moves are legal

cowzerp

Asked to close by op, so i am closing it now.