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Post While Watching Ultimate BB11 Minute to Minute Discussion **ENTER AT OWN RISK**
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gwan Andrew!!!
corin ya ride
corin?! jaysus...
anyway, bob righter has given them the message about the parrot now. looking forward to hearing who they're gonna mimic, should be interesting.
anyone see josie massaging caoimhe in the bed and flashin caoimhes boobs? quite funny actually.
thought ben was gonna kill corin when she turned the light on in the bedroom, he just got up and turned it off and was like "goodnight corin", he is priceless over the sleep disruptions.0 -
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To summarise the argument between Ben and John James:
I think it started with something along the lines of Ben taking issue with John James making a comment about his character that went something like.. "to get the full Ben experience we need to not do anything, and nothing will get done".
It diverted into a full blown personal attack basically from John James, to which Ben retaliated.
Ben asked John James why he's always snapping at his heels with personal comments and said he feels uncomfortable around his aggressive nature.
John James said that he hates the fact that Ben isn't interested in taking part in tasks and doesn't like teamwork.
John James called Ben "the most selfish person in the house" and he called himself "selfless".
Ben agreed that he's not particularly interested in the tasks they've done so far, which sparked a further (and repetitive) attack from John James.
Ben likened his lack of teamwork to John James' temper.
John James says that the lack of effort in tasks affects the housemates far more than his temper. "My temper doesn't take away hot water and food".
Ben says that that's true but it does affect the housemates in other ways, making them uncomfortable etc.
John James asks Ben if he's prepared to try harder with tasks.
Ben is unenthusiastic but with a bit of encouragement from others says he will.
Ben asks John James if he will work on his temper.
John James flim-flams on this throughout the argument. First saying he'd be happy to work on areas of his personality, then dismissing the need for that entirely.
Ben eventually (after a couple of hours) relents and basically accepts the terms set out by John James which are: You'll earn my respect when you try harder in tasks. If you don't try harder in tasks, I'll continue to be aggressive towards you.
Ben tries to put an end to the argument but John James keeps needling.
All during this the other housemates have been wanting to go to bed but they've been arguing in the bedroom
Dave also tried to mediate for a while and they were making a small bit of progress but once he left it just got stupid again.0 -
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WesternNight wrote: »To summarise the argument between Ben and John James:
I think it started with something along the lines of Ben taking issue with John James making a comment about his character that went something like.. "to get the full Ben experience we need to not do anything, and nothing will get done".
It diverted into a full blown personal attack basically from John James, to which Ben retaliated.
Ben asked John James why he's always snapping at his heels with personal comments and said he feels uncomfortable around his aggressive nature.
John James said that he hates the fact that Ben isn't interested in taking part in tasks and doesn't like teamwork.
John James called Ben "the most selfish person in the house" and he called himself "selfless".
Ben agreed that he's not particularly interested in the tasks they've done so far, which sparked a further (and repetitive) attack from John James.
Ben likened his lack of teamwork to John James' temper.
John James says that the lack of effort in tasks affects the housemates far more than his temper. "My temper doesn't take away hot water and food".
Ben says that that's true but it does affect the housemates in other ways, making them uncomfortable etc.
John James asks Ben if he's prepared to try harder with tasks.
Ben is unenthusiastic but with a bit of encouragement from others says he will.
Ben asks John James if he will work on his temper.
John James flim-flams on this throughout the argument. First saying he'd be happy to work on areas of his personality, then dismissing the need for that entirely.
Ben eventually (after a couple of hours) relents and basically accepts the terms set out by John James which are: You'll earn my respect when you try harder in tasks. If you don't try harder in tasks, I'll continue to be aggressive towards you.
Ben tries to put an end to the argument but John James keeps needling.
All during this the other housemates have been wanting to go to bed but they've been arguing in the bedroom
Dave also tried to mediate for a while and they were making a small bit of progress but once he left it just got stupid again.
I think that's a very one-sided view of it. Seemed to me John James was trying to actually resolve the issue of Ben not being bothered about helping out in tasks (which he admitted).
Every time he asked Ben if he'd try in the tasks Ben would reply with 'Are you going to deal with your anger and aggression issues'? Basically he was in denial about having anything to work on, kept trying to turn the tables, and then just wanted to end the conversation.
If I was in there and needed to do tasks to help people get food and stuff then I'd be fed up as well with someone who couldn't be bothered helping out. I thought J. J. was spot on and thought Ben came across as very selfish.0
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