European Draw

TheBigLebowski

Enough of this 'World Cup' vuvuzela blowing, hyped up nonsense. The draw for the Europa league is on Monday 21st June (streamed live on UEFA website).

Dundalk FC enter at the first qualifying round as a seeded team and could have a good chance of qualifying for the 2nd qualifying round.

Sporting Fingal and Shamrock Rovers enter at the 2nd qualifyind round as unseeded teams and could be drawn against Olympiacos or Besiktas. Here's hoping for a favorable draw for Rovers against one of the weaker sides.

Any teams who make it through the 2nd qualifying round could then be drawn against some heavyweights of European football, such as Juventus, Galatasaray or Liverpool.

Brint it on...

TheBigLebowski

I guess it was too much to expect that there might be some interest on an Irish soccer forum in some Irish teams playing in Europe. Obviously more important things to discuss like Wayne Rooney's latest musings or 'Becks' latest clobber...:(

lordgoat

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

I guess it was too much to expect that there might be some interest on an Irish soccer forum in some Irish teams playing in Europe. Obviously more important things to discuss like Wayne Rooney's latest musings or 'Becks' latest clobber...:(

Yep you got it in one! I quite like DB07's suit actually - any thoughts?

TheBigLebowski

lordgoat wrote: »

Yep you got it in one! I quite like DB07's suit actually - any thoughts?

He certainly brings a little 'je ne sais quoi' to the English bench...

In other news, Bohs enter the champions league 2nd qualifying round as a seeded team which gives them a fairly good chance of advancing.

Mushy

When is the CL draw? And also, how much of an impact would qualification to the actual stages of Europa League have on Irelands co-efficient?

TheBigLebowski

Mushy wrote: »

When is the CL draw? And also, how much of an impact would qualification to the actual stages of Europa League have on Irelands co-efficient?

I believe the CL draw is on Monday also. Not sure about the co-efficient side of things for getting to the group stages. I doubt it's something we'll need to worry about any time soon anyhow, unless there is a major seachange in the way the Irish sporting public treats it's own league...

GLaDOS

CL draw is Monday aswell, Bohs are seeded for the first round

Mushy

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

I believe the CL draw is on Monday also. Not sure about the co-efficient side of things for getting to the group stages. I doubt it's something we'll need to worry about any time soon anyhow, unless there is a major seachange in the way the Irish sporting public treats it's own league...

That can work two ways. Maybe if team did better in Europe, more would go watch them. On the flip-side, they need more people to attend first to raise more money for better players etc. Leaving that out, maybe if they managed to shock a team/get a decent draw, and get in, surely it would have positive ramifications for the co-efficient. Or does that depend on national team too?

dreamers75

Hmmm

Teams do well as we may get into Europe next season and it will benefit us or rovers get hammered twice......

yeah gonna have to go woth a Zimbru style beating

Tallaght Saint

Kind of glad we aren't in Europe this term. With our title rivals having to travel and play the extra games we'll be nice and rested.

Hope rovers get ****ing hammered btw

TheBigLebowski

Tallaght Saint wrote: »

Kind of glad we aren't in Europe this term. With our title rivals having to travel and play the extra games we'll be nice and rested.

Hope rovers get ****ing hammered btw

Support your local team Tallaght Saint...

bohsman

We will draw one of these, trip to Malta please.

HJK Helsinki Fin 2.399
Levadia Tallinn Est 2.374
Metalurgs Liepaja Lat 2.149
FH Hafnarfjardar Isl 2.083
Zeljeznicar Bos 1.749
Olimpi Rustavi Geo 1.649
Pyunik Yerevan Arm 1.599
NK Koper Slo 1.391
Inter Baku Azb 1.349
Renova Dzepciste Mac 1.316
Dinamo Tirana Alb 1.049
HB Torshavn Far 0.866
The New Saints Wal 0.766
Linfield Belfast Nir 0.574
Jeunesse d'Esch Lux 0.249
Round 1 Qualifier: Santa Coloma (And)/ Rudar (Mon)/ Birkirkara (Mal) or Champions of San Marino
Round 1 Qualifier: Santa Coloma (And)/ Rudar (Mon)/ Birkirkara (Mal) or Champions of San Marino

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Preferably an easy draw to start off with for Rovers and then humiliate Liverpool with a 5-0 thrashing.:pac:

dreamers75

bohsman wrote: »

We will draw one of these, trip to Malta please.

HJK Helsinki Fin 2.399
Levadia Tallinn Est 2.374
Metalurgs Liepaja Lat 2.149
FH Hafnarfjardar Isl 2.083
Zeljeznicar Bos 1.749
Olimpi Rustavi Geo 1.649
Pyunik Yerevan Arm 1.599
NK Koper Slo 1.391
Inter Baku Azb 1.349
Renova Dzepciste Mac 1.316
Dinamo Tirana Alb 1.049
HB Torshavn Far 0.866
The New Saints Wal 0.766
Linfield Belfast Nir 0.574
Jeunesse d'Esch Lux 0.249
Round 1 Qualifier: Santa Coloma (And)/ Rudar (Mon)/ Birkirkara (Mal) or Champions of San Marino
Round 1 Qualifier: Santa Coloma (And)/ Rudar (Mon)/ Birkirkara (Mal) or Champions of San Marino

Wales or NI, get the win then get the euro trip in the next round. Some horrible trips there.

Malta isnt cheap to get to for 3 days, cheaper to stay for a week tbh.

Pinturicchio

Mushy wrote: »

That can work two ways. Maybe if team did better in Europe, more would go watch them. On the flip-side, they need more people to attend first to raise more money for better players etc. Leaving that out, maybe if they managed to shock a team/get a decent draw, and get in, surely it would have positive ramifications for the co-efficient. Or does that depend on national team too?

No. The club co-efficient and the national team rankings are separate.

Oat23

Best of luck to all the teams. We didn't do too well last time out(sligo). Beaten by an Albanian side .

Foxx92

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Beaten by an Albanian side .

...that were trying to lose.

Oat23

Foxx92 wrote: »

...that were trying to lose.

See ye in 3 weeks .

Pinturicchio

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Best of luck to all the teams. We didn't do too well last time out(sligo). Beaten by an Albanian side .

Foxx92 wrote: »

...that were trying to lose.

Thanks to a Galway man.

Töpher

Mushy wrote: »

That can work two ways. Maybe if team did better in Europe, more would go watch them.

Irish football doesn't work like that because the crowds don't return for non-European games.

Foxx92

Mushy wrote: »

Maybe if team did better in Europe, more would go watch them.

Shels getting c30,000 one week and c1,000 the next springs to mind

SRFC90

Looking forward to the draw. As others have said, nice 1st tie close to home with a good chance of progression then a nice trip in the 2nd round to some wild foreign place!

Madworld

The CL will be regionalised for us. :):)

dreamers75

Bohemians in the CL draw can get:

HJK Helsinki (FIN), FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL), HB Tórshavn (FRO), The New Saints FC (WAL), Linfield FC (NIR) or AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX).


First Round Group 4:
Seeded- Dundalk, Kalmar FF, KR Reykjavík, FK Tauras
Unseeded- EB/Streymur, Glentoran FC, JK Trans Narva, Llanelli AFC, CS Grevenmacher

stolen from foot.ie

Fingal rovers have to wait for round 1 to be complete.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/index.html

All irish clubs seeded in their draws, np lads

Dub13

The Europa league is the new Champions league,fact.

doncarlos

dreamers75 wrote: »

Bohemians in the CL draw can get:

HJK Helsinki (FIN), FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL), HB Tórshavn (FRO), The New Saints FC (WAL), Linfield FC (NIR) or AS Jeunesse Esch (LUX).


First Round Group 4:
Seeded- Dundalk, Kalmar FF, KR Reykjavík, FK Tauras
Unseeded- EB/Streymur, Glentoran FC, JK Trans Narva, Llanelli AFC, CS Grevenmacher

stolen from foot.ie

Fingal rovers have to wait for round 1 to be complete.

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/index.html

All irish clubs seeded in their draws, np lads

Cheers Dreamers. Most sites blocked here in work.
Not a bad draw for Dundalk at all. Hopefully we get Llanelli or Gravenmacher as they both should be winnable and not much travel expenses.

applehunter

Linfield or TNS would probably be most desired draw for Bohs.

astrofool

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

I guess it was too much to expect that there might be some interest on an Irish soccer forum in some Irish teams playing in Europe. Obviously more important things to discuss like Wayne Rooney's latest musings or 'Becks' latest clobber...:(

It should have it's own forum, there's too much Rooney/Becks/France stuff going on for stuff like this to get much traffic. There also seems to be enough LOI supporters to make it a viable forum.

applehunter

Bohs drawn against TNS(Wales)

Handy in terms of opposition and logistics. I'm sure they would have been thinking the same....

LiamMc

I think TNS is the one of the better draws.
Lost cost in travel for club and fans.
1st leg draw in Dublin?
Pat Fenlon is always very vociferous about NOT changing the legs as it shows a sign of submission.
Also Bohs will want the first leg in Dublin for the same reasons TNS may ask to change it. (That could be a disservice to TNS though).

doncarlos

applehunter wrote: »

Bohs drawn against TNS(Wales)

Handy in terms of opposition and logistics. I'm sure they would have been thinking the same....

Best possible draw for Bohs in my opinion. Great financially and should beat them. Hopefully Dundalk get Llanelli

LiamMc

I'm presuming the Europa League won't be regionalised. As the UEFA site hasn't set it up that way.
The regions draw hit central and S.E. Europe badly as the competent clubs not each other out and making room for the dross from Northern Europe.

Last year was an example when Vllaznia shat on Sligo Rovers in an unregionalised draw. Sligo Rovers fans still think they were robbed.

doncarlos

LiamMc wrote: »

I'm presuming the Europa League won't be regionalised. As the UEFA site hasn't set it up that way.
The regions draw hit central and S.E. Europe badly as the competent clubs not each other out and making room for the dross from Northern Europe.

Last year was an example when Vllaznia shat on Sligo Rovers in an unregionalised draw. Sligo Rovers fans still think they were robbed.

Not regionalised but the group draw was done already (EB/Streymur, Glentoran FC, JK Trans Narva, Llanelli AFC, CS Grevenmacher)
The Faroe Islands team aside the rest are easy and cheap enough to get to. Financially the Faroe team would be the worst draw for us.

dreamers75

Linfield got Rosenberg.


Would say its good/bad but linfield wont give a ****, their players be on holiday when its played.

LiamMc

doncarlos wrote: »

Not regionalised but the group draw was done already (EB/Streymur, Glentoran FC, JK Trans Narva, Llanelli AFC, CS Grevenmacher)
The Faroe Islands team aside the rest are easy and cheap enough to get to. Financially the Faroe team would be the worst draw for us.

Thanks, I came across that now on the UEFA.com
I would describe that as regionalised looking at the different groups.
But at the moment it looks like it's only the 1st qRd. Like only the 2nd qRd. in the Champions League.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1498176.html
(Towards the bottom of the page)

After edit:
I know an Estonian they talk about Narva the town being an ethnic Russian place. More Russian than actually ethnic Russian.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Dundalk have Gravenmacher from Luxembourg.
Glentoran have Reykjavik from Iceland.

LiamMc

Two for two on the home leg first.
Foreign enough for everybody. Except Dundalk fans livingin Luxembourg obviously.

Skonto Riga return to Northern Ireland for the second year in a row.

stovelid

Live:

http://video.uefa.com/video/Competitions/UefaCup/Season=2011/liveDraw_videoFlash.html

stovelid

Töpher wrote: »

Irish football doesn't work like that because the crowds don't return for non-European games.

To be honest, even if a team like Liverpool were (are?) to drop out of contention for regular Champions League participation, they'd lose a shed-load of support here imo.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Have to wait 45 minutes for Rovers' draw.

LiamMc

For second round:
Match 14 Portadown : Skonto Riga
Match 16 KR Reykjavik : Glentoran
Match 17 Dundalk : Grevenmacher

stovelid

lordgoat wrote: »

I quite like DB07's suit actually - any thoughts?

It's like his wife's trousers. Expensive and shiny, but with a cunt inside it.

5ForKeeps

stovelid wrote: »

To be honest, even if a team like Liverpool were (are?) to drop out of contention for regular Champions League participation, they'd lose a shed-load of support here imo.

Do you think all Liverpool supporters are the same, Liverpool have had supporters in Ireland going way back before the success of the 60's, 70's and 80's due to the high influx of Irish people in Liverpool in the preceding decades. The Liverpool docks was built with sand from the River Slaney back many moons ago.

Liverpool and its city has had a strong bond with generations of Irish people so a lot of supporters wouldn't desert the club at all. The Istanbul hangers on yes would jump ship I would say but even if the club was playing in League 1 or 2 you would still see a lot of people going over for games.

stovelid

5ForKeeps wrote: »

Do you think all Liverpool supporters are the same, Liverpool have had supporters in Ireland going way back before the success of the 60's, 70's and 80's due to the high influx of Irish people in Liverpool in the preceding decades. The Liverpool docks was built with sand from the River Slaney back many moons ago.

Liverpool and its city has had a strong bond with generations of Irish people so a lot of supporters wouldn't desert the club at all. The Istanbul hangers on yes would jump ship I would say but even if the club was playing in League 1 or 2 you would still see a lot of people going over for games.

Thanks, "la".

Can we get back to discussing the Europa league now?

It's a competition Liverpool supporters will be intimately acquainted with for the foreseeable future anyway.

5ForKeeps

stovelid wrote: »

Thanks, "la".

Can we get back to discussing the Europa league now?

It's a competition Liverpool supporters will be intimately acquainted with for the foreseeable future anyway.

That was a boss comment there la, we were well acquainted with the competition during the 90's as the UEFA Cup so it doesn't bother me in the slightest. We're in the competitions to win them, once the club the is sold in the next few weeks Liverpool will change drastically all it needs now is to rubberstamped that there is no conflict of interest on the buyers part.

GLaDOS

Very happy with TNS

dreamers75

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Very happy with TNS

Reckon they happy getting bohs ?


Handy cheap trip tho

TheBigLebowski

Handy draw for Bohs. They should murder the new saints especially with Bohs being mid-season. Hopefully they do well this year. Only for the sake of the co-efficients of course :P

2nd round draw for Europa league coming up at 13:15...

stovelid

Have you seen the home strip of TNS...? :pac:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Saints_F.C..

dreamers75

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

2nd round draw for Europa league coming up at 13:15...

Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos

Please

stovelid

dreamers75 wrote: »

Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos Olympiacos

Please

Minnow.

:pac: