Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread

irishbucsfan

Kidney would have to be particularly dull not to have learned his lesson about ignoring Chris Henry at openside. He's an easy choice.

irishbucsfan

Will we see an international squad today?

bilston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Will we see an international squad today?

More likely Tuesday or Wednesday I think

Sinbad_NI

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Kidney would have to be particularly dull not to have learned his lesson about ignoring Chris Henry at openside. He's an easy choice.

He's been in outstanding form since his return. Should be starting I agree.

irishbucsfan

bilston wrote: »

More likely Tuesday or Wednesday I think

Seems it was a Tuesday in 2010

Teferi

Clegg wrote: »

It's encouraging to see him playing so well after the undeserved criticism he received last season.

He has been getting undeserved criticism for 2+ seasons now.

molloyjh

bilston wrote: »

Wards team is:

15 Kearney
14 Bowe
13 O'Driscoll
12 D'Arcy
11 Zebo (assuming Earls isn't available)
10 Sexton
9 Reddan
1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Ryan
5 O'Connell
6 Ferris
7 O'Mahony (assuming SOB isn't available)
8 Heaslip

The only position I disagree about is O/S where surely Chris Henry would simply HAVE to start?

+1

I think most here would agree. But whether we actually see it happen is another thing. Take out Reddan and put in Murray and you have what Deccie will select I reckon.

It's a poor price that lumps all the responsibility for the 60-0 defeat on the players really. If they are not embarrassed about it then they should leave. But the same doesn't appear to be true of the coaching staff. I am so sick of these double standards. And I'm so sick of seeing the players continually questioned, be it individually or collectively, while their head coach remains untouchable.

RoundBox11

Given that O'Mahony has been playing 8 so far this season (and not very well either), combined with the fact that Henry and indeed Ulster are playing so well, there really is no excuse for Kidney not to start Henry at 7...

Lets hope he takes off his rose tinted glasses

dtpc191991

bilston wrote: »

Wards team is:

15 Kearney
14 Bowe
13 O'Driscoll
12 D'Arcy
11 Zebo (assuming Earls isn't available)
10 Sexton
9 Reddan
1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Ryan
5 O'Connell
6 Ferris
7 O'Mahony (assuming SOB isn't available)
8 Heaslip

That's a decent team however I would make a couple of changes.

15 Kearney
14 Bowe
13 O'Driscoll
12 D'Arcy
11 Zebo (assuming Earls isn't available)
10 Sexton
9 P.Marshall
1 Healy
2 Best
3 Ross
4 Ryan
5 O'Connell
6 Ferris (Henderson if Ferris isn't available)
7 Henry (assuming SOB isn't available)
8 Heaslip

Clegg

If ROG is fit then he'll play.

Doesn't matter if that he's been crap for years.

He'll play so long as Kidney is the coach.

Tomtom364

Team for Ireland XV vs Fiji

I dont know the upcoming front rows, help me out xD

15. Jones
14. Gilroy
13. Cave
12. McSharry
11. Zebo/O'Halloran
10. Keatly
9. Marshall

1. Kilkoyne
2. Cronin/Sherry
3.
4. Touhy
5. Toner
6. Henderson
7. Henry
8. Butler

16. Sherry/... Varley?
17.
18.
19. McCarthy
20. McLaughlin
21. Boss
22. Jackson/Madigan
23. ... Theres too many!

thomond2006

I'd have Henshaw over Jones, Jones has not done anything (yet) to merit selection. We need to take a more proactive attitude in throwing in youngsters, both Wales & Australia have produced top class players from backing their young talent.

Jackson should be ahead of Keatley in the pecking order, I'd have him on the bench for SA and then start the Fiji game.

There's not much tightheads going around, we're really going to be stretched since 23 man squads are being trialled. The only Irish starting tighthead is Mike Ross, the best options after him are Loughney and Fitzpatrick (injured last I read).

Deano7788

There's also Andress, who's been starting regularly for Worcester. I would hope that Henry would be starting (or at least involved) for the senior team so we'd need a different 7; similarly depending on Earls fitness Zebo could be involved also. Personally I'd have Marshall on the bench for the seniors and would start Marmion in this game (for a similar reason to Henshaw). Won't happen though

thomond2006

Deano7788 wrote: »

There's also Andress, who's been starting regularly for Worcester. I would hope that Henry would be starting (or at least involved) for the senior team so we'd need a different 7; similarly depending on Earls fitness Zebo could be involved also. Personally I'd have Marshall on the bench for the seniors and would start Marmion in this game (for a similar reason to Henshaw). Won't happen though

Is Andress that good? There's a lot of mention of him on this forum. I've never seen him.

He couldn't get a game for Exeter last season.

Tomtom364

Deano7788 wrote: »

There's also Andress, who's been starting regularly for Worcester. I would hope that Henry would be starting (or at least involved) for the senior team so we'd need a different 7; similarly depending on Earls fitness Zebo could be involved also. Personally I'd have Marshall on the bench for the seniors and would start Marmion in this game (for a similar reason to Henshaw). Won't happen though

I dont think inclusion with the Ireland Senior side will exculde exclusion with the Ireland IV, thats why I have put Zebo, Keatley, Henry, Jones, Cronin into this team as they are likely IMO to get senior calls ups due to injuries but need as much international game time as possible aswell.

Deano7788

Tomtom364 wrote: »

I dont think inclusion with the Ireland Senior side will exculde exclusion with the Ireland IV, thats why I have put Zebo, Keatley, Henry, Jones, Cronin into this team as they are likely IMO to get senior calls ups due to injuries but need as much international game time as possible aswell.

True but I'd rather see other players get a chance. This is a brilliant opportunity to look at different options so why pass it up. Without SOB I'd have Henry starting both test matches, so I'd keep him out of this match especially, whatever about the others. Also, I'd say it's almost guaranteed that Strauss will be involved in this game in some form. I actually think that Jackson should be ahead of Keatley on form; similarly Henshaw is more deserving than Jones, while Marmion deserves at least a chance from the bench. What are we going to learn by having Boss on the bench?

Deano7788

thomond2006 wrote: »

Is Andress that good? There's a lot of mention of him on this forum. I've never seen him.

He couldn't get a game for Exeter last season.

He's ok; not a world beater but solid enough. The only reason I mentioned him is he's one of the few tightheads starting regularly. I'd rather have something like Hagan or Loughney starting, with either the other or Moore on the bench. Fiji aren't the most destructive forces in the scrum.

Also, I think Buckley (Denis, not Tony) deserves a look at loosehead, possibly even ahead of Kilcoyne.

jacothelad

thomond2006 wrote: »

Is Andress that good? There's a lot of mention of him on this forum. I've never seen him.

He couldn't get a game for Exeter last season.

Don't play with the sound on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IELf9RGc79s

gally74

After the weekend does mcsharry not deserve a call up?

CIARAN_BOYLE

gally74 wrote: »

After the weekend does mcsharry not deserve a call up?

I personally think he could feature for Ireland XV against Fiji

bilston

gally74 wrote: »

After the weekend does mcsharry not deserve a call up?

Didn't see the Connacht game but heard he played well. Why not? We need new options at 12. I'm pretty sure D'Arcy has the shirt for SA but someone new should be tried against Fiji.

Fireball07

Form 12 imo. Very impressed with him against Quins, and against Zebre.

Blackheath

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I personally think he could feature for Ireland XV against Fiji

Yes he does, he is our on form inside centre

gally74

It would be a high reward for him after coming to conn from Mary's

Tox56

D'Arcy has been in some great form too, but I agree, try him in the Fiji game and see what he's made of.

Blackheath

gally74 wrote: »

It would be a high reward for him after coming to conn from Mary's

Its not a question of where he came from but more of a question how far can he go

TheKeenMachine

According to @irfurugby on Twitter, the squad announcement will be on Wednesday.

RoundBox11

Let's not forget Luke Marshall too!

McSharry has the advantage of starting every week tho i suppose. I just think Marshall has a bit extra to his game. He's the future 12 imo

.ak

Defo think Luke Marshall is the key to Ireland's IC future.

Fireball07

RoundBox11 wrote: »

Let's not forget Luke Marshall too!

McSharry has the advantage of starting every week tho i suppose. I just think Marshall has a bit extra to his game. He's the future 12 imo

I'd agree Marshall probably has more potential, very exciting player. But hard to start someone who's behind another Irish player at their province.

Wallace, D'Arcy, Downey, McFadden, McSharry, Marshall.....none are bad players...but none are great either. 3 are aging, 2 aren't certain starters...McSharry is the leftover. I think he's in great form and I'd give him a go against Fiji.