Pedigree (is it really that bad)

Jinxi

What qualifies as the runs?
Have had dog three weeks and she is on beta puppy food. Woke up at 4 this morning to her crate being destroyed in loose faeces.
But is in great form. I presume it has to be loose over a number of bowel movements to be a worry? And if it was the food it would have happend sooner, right?

Graces7

Sittingpretty wrote: »

You see it's all relative really as to how expensive dog food is. If I were to feed my dog on Pedigree, she would need about 4 tins a day going by her weight & nutrition requirements. This would cost me on average about €5 a day which is €150 a month.

We pay €60 for a 12KG of Royal Canin and it lasts about 5 weeks so that's a saving right there.

I hear you; but we do not feed any tinned or processed dog food so the comparison does not apply. Raw and home made is what we feed and it costs far less than that. ( I thought the OP was talking re Pedigree dry?)

paultf

Just had a quick look and one can get a 15kg bag of Pedigree Complete Adult chicken and rice for about €34 on zooplus.ie (cheaper than Tesco or Woodies).

Going by the Pedigree feeding guidelines and the weight of my 3 cockers, I would have to feed them 552g in total per day. So a 15kg bag of Pedigree would last 27 days costing me €1.23 per day.

I feed my cockers Burns. I can get a 15kg bag for €47. Going by Burns feeding guidelines and using the same weights as above, my cockers would use 350g per day. So a 15kg bag of Burns would last 43 days costing me €1.09 per day.

Burns is a better food and works out way cheaper than Pedigree complete.

barbiegirl

Due to allergies, I've recently changed to James Wellbeloved and mix it with a little Lidl Brand dog food, the Orlando one. Sindy is very picky but so far we're having some results, her eyes and nose are a lot better. We took her off Science Plan which a lot of people felt was too high in protein. The vet felt she might have to be on anti inflamatories for life but the diet change so far has been a success.

Discodog

I have been using Pedigree for over 30 years. Used to use cans but I switched to dry complete about 10 years ago. I cannot fault it. Everyone including my vet tell me that my dogs are in superb condition.

Denerick

I always laugh when I hear of people spending to high heaven for their pets. My dog and cat eat Lidyl's finest (i.e, CHEAPEST) and do just fine.

lrushe

GAIN Complete, my 3 dogs are jumping out of their skin on it €17 for 15kg bag, absolute bargin. Throw in some fresh meat and veg from whatever I'm cooking for myself that day and mackrel once a week and I've got 3 v.healthy dogs who (touch wood ) haven't cost me a penny extra in vet bills and are the picture of health.
I've a 9 and a half year old Spitz who can out run an 11 month old Rottie and jump a metre in the air to catch a tennis ball (which he does daily) so he defies those who claim that dogs will suffer when they get older. My sister's JRT was put to sleep on Saturday from old age, she was 16, she was fed as above, my GSD was put to sleep at 13 from old age and was fed as above. All in all 5 different breed, different sizes all living or lived healthy lives, of those who have died they were pts at good old ages Luck? Coincidence? I don't think so.

imokyrok

Denerick wrote: »

I always laugh when I hear of people spending to high heaven for their pets. My dog and cat eat Lidyl's finest (i.e, CHEAPEST) and do just fine.

I've tried Lidl when I'm broke but my pets turn their nose up completely. You could almost see their sighs of disappointment when I took out the bag! They are happy with dry food brands like pedigree, brandy, whiskas, kitekat though so that's what I get.

imokyrok

lrushe wrote: »

GAIN Complete, my 3 dogs are jumping out of their skin on it €17 for 15kg bag, absolute bargin. Throw in some fresh meat and veg from whatever I'm cooking for myself that day and mackrel once a week and I've got 3 v.healthy dogs who (touch wood ) haven't cost me a penny extra in vet bills and are the picture of health.
I've a 9 and a half year old Spitz who can out run an 11 month old Rottie and jump a metre in the air to catch a tennis ball (which he does daily) so he defies those who claim that dogs will suffer when they get older. My sister's JRT was put to sleep on Saturday from old age, she was 16, she was fed as above, my GSD was put to sleep at 13 from old age and was fed as above. All in all 5 different breed, different sizes all living or lived healthy lives, of those who have died they were pts at good old ages Luck? Coincidence? I don't think so.

That sounds like a good deal allright. I don't think I've seen it anywhere? Coincidentally I have a J. Spitz and my other dog (a rescued papillion who reached 15) passed away last month so I'm thinking of rescuing another. I'm very tempted to get a rottweiler as I've always loved the breed but researching it on line a lot of people say they get hassled a lot by others when they are out walking a rottie. They claim people shout at them for having a "dangerous" breed. What's your experience been?

Denerick

imokyrok wrote: »

I've tried Lidl when I'm broke but my pets turn their nose up completely. You could almost see their sighs of disappointment when I took out the bag! They are happy with dry food brands like pedigree, brandy, whiskas, kitekat though so that's what I get.

I kinda forgot that our highly strung cat will eat whiskas and whiskas only. But our dog gets cheap lidyl food and wags its tail appropriatelly. Cats are a law unto themselves though, if you spoil them in anyway when young they'll grow an ego the size of the house. Then when you go back to basics they take issue with you and go out of their way to let you know how disappointed they are in you for your base treachery.

andreac

imokyrok wrote: »

That sounds like a good deal allright. I don't think I've seen it anywhere? Coincidentally I have a J. Spitz and my other dog (a rescued papillion who reached 15) passed away last month so I'm thinking of rescuing another. I'm very tempted to get a rottweiler as I've always loved the breed but researching it on line a lot of people say they get hassled a lot by others when they are out walking a rottie. They claim people shout at them for having a "dangerous" breed. What's your experience been?

I own a rottie and i dont get too much hassle as such but you will get people crossing the street etc to avoid you and picking up their little dogs in case my dog decides to eat it:rolleyes:.

But i dont take notice of them and my dog is very well trained and socialised so theres never any hassle. Ive actually found that a lot of people are in awe of him as you dont see many around and a lot like to come up and pet him esp kids and hes great with kids.

I would say if you are going to get a rottie do your homework. They are not for a novice handler and need a lot of training and socialisation so be prepared to put in a lot of time and effort with them from the word go and if you cannot do this then do not get one.

The males can be a handful when they mature and you need to keep on top of them. I show my fella so hes entire so i have to be very careful around other entire males so you really need your wits about you and make sure if you get a male he gos to lost of training classes and you socialise him from a very young age.
My fella is 50kg (7 1/2 stone) at the mo so just think about these dogs before you get one. But they are amazing dogs with the correct up bringing.

Just shout if you need any more info:)

imokyrok

Denerick wrote: »

I kinda forgot that our highly strung cat will eat whiskas and whiskas only. But our dog gets cheap lidyl food and wags its tail appropriatelly. Cats are a law unto themselves though, if you spoil them in anyway when young they'll grow an ego the size of the house. Then when you go back to basics they take issue with you and go out of their way to let you know how disappointed they are in you for your base treachery.

Don't I know it! I've acquired five of them. They make me laugh so much though with their funny fits of pique and the way they sort of shrug their shoulders and strid off like a hard man when their embarrassed!

lrushe

imokyrok wrote: »

That sounds like a good deal allright. I don't think I've seen it anywhere? Coincidentally I have a J. Spitz and my other dog (a rescued papillion who reached 15) passed away last month so I'm thinking of rescuing another. I'm very tempted to get a rottweiler as I've always loved the breed but researching it on line a lot of people say they get hassled a lot by others when they are out walking a rottie. They claim people shout at them for having a "dangerous" breed. What's your experience been?

The petshop on the Long Mile Road in Dublin stock Gain.
Sorry to hear you had to put your dog down but 15 is a good age so you should be proud of that.
No I've never had anyone shout at me but I do have people avoid me or ask me if she bites. I walk pretty much the same route everyday so the regular dog walkers know me and my dogs and have no fear of her.
I can't speak highly enough of Rottweilers as a breed, they are fantastic looking dogs, super intelligent and loyal to an absolute fault. As Andrea said though and I can't stress it enough they need a firm owner. Early socialisation / training is a must (and should be part of the sales contract imo), an unruly Rottie is not something you (or the public) want to end up with, lets face it the breed doesn't need anymore bad press.
They can also suffer health problems with their hips, elbows, eyes and heart, they are also prone to certain cancers so I would v.much recommend buying from a reputable breeder who has completed health checks on the parents or you will be in for alot of vet bills not to mention heartache.
My advice to you before taking on a dog like this is research, research, research. Go to dog shows, get to know breeders and if after that you decide that this is the breed for you you won't be disappointed

imokyrok

lrushe wrote: »

The petshop on the Long Mile Road in Dublin stock Gain.
Sorry to hear you had to put your dog down but 15 is a good age so you should be proud of that.
No I've never had anyone shout at me but I do have people avoid me or ask me if she bites. I walk pretty much the same route everyday so the regular dog walkers know me and my dogs and have no fear of her.
I can't speak highly enough of Rottweilers as a breed, they are fantastic looking dogs, super intelligent and loyal to an absolute fault. As Andrea said though and I can't stress it enough they need a firm owner. Early socialisation / training is a must (and should be part of the sales contract imo), an unruly Rottie is not something you (or the public) want to end up with, lets face it the breed doesn't need anymore bad press.
They can also suffer health problems with their hips, elbows, eyes and heart, they are also prone to certain cancers so I would v.much recommend buying from a reputable breeder who has completed health checks on the parents or you will be in for alot of vet bills not to mention heartache.
My advice to you before taking on a dog like this is research, research, research. Go to dog shows, get to know breeders and if after that you decide that this is the breed for you you won't be disappointed

I didn't put have to put her down. She died naturally which I'm glad off. It's so hard to make that particular decision.

I've been chatting to Andrea by pm and have received good advice. Given a tendency for children to climb into my garden to retrieve footballs every day and the hour and a half a day requirement for walking I guess I must do the responsible thing and think again.

lrushe

imokyrok wrote: »

Given a tendency for children to climb into my garden to retrieve footballs every day and the hour and a half a day requirement for walking I guess I must do the responsible thing and think again.

No harm knowing your limitations, fair play to you for thinking it through properly.

lorebringer

imokyrok wrote: »

I didn't put have to put her down. She died naturally which I'm glad off. It's so hard to make that particular decision.

I've been chatting to Andrea by pm and have received good advice. Given a tendency for children to climb into my garden to retrieve footballs every day and the hour and a half a day requirement for walking I guess I must do the responsible thing and think again.

lrushe wrote: »

No harm knowing your limitations, fair play to you for thinking it through properly.

Couldn't agree more! Great to see you are being realistic and genuinly taking an interest in what does and doesn't suit your situation - nothing worse than people don't research and just take them for looks or reputation or impluse, drives me mad (the typical "I didn't know it would be this big/ active/ distructive/whatever" - why did you get that breed then?!?!?!). Madness!

ginagina

http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/iams.html

This was a real eye opener for me, pet owners need to be better informed and these big brands need to be held accountable asap.