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Pairc Ui Chaoimh re-development

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    #1322
    rebel.ranter
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    who_me wrote: »
    It's been mentioned alright, Vodafone being one of the names hinted at.

    I think that's only part of it: "Pairc Ui Chaoimh, powered by Vodafone", there a second piece to the naming rights apparently.


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    #1323
    Cape Clear
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    Has the pairc closed down again? Given the lack of talk about it on here of late.


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    #1324
    namloc1980
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    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Has the pairc closed down again? Given the lack of talk about it on here of late.

    Yeah loftus moving in with the demolition gear soon.


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    #1325
    Rooy
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    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Has the pairc closed down again? Given the lack of talk about it on here of late.

    Lack of games in PUC fairly evident now , nearly 4 weeks since the hurling quarter finals , next/final games of year might be the county finals.
    Compare that to Croke park where they is a game every week , have ladies double header Sat and football semi sunday.


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    #1326
    Shedite27
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    Rooy wrote: »
    Lack of games in PUC fairly evident now , nearly 4 weeks since the hurling quarter finals , next/final games of year might be the county finals.
    Compare that to Croke park where they is a game every week , have ladies double header Sat and football semi sunday.
    What in the name of god are ya comparing it to Croke Park for? They've complelty different purposes.

    Loads of county games between now and the finals, plenty will be held in PUC


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    #1327
    gustafo
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    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Has the pairc closed down again? Given the lack of talk about it on here of late.

    ya to finish off the rest of it they are missing a few roofs


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    #1328
    ShamoBuc
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    Rooy wrote: »
    Lack of games in PUC fairly evident now , nearly 4 weeks since the hurling quarter finals , next/final games of year might be the county finals.
    Compare that to Croke park where they is a game every week , have ladies double header Sat and football semi sunday.

    Stupid comparison. Casement park, Gaelic grounds, McHale park, Fitzgerald stadium etc, are the stadiums you need to be comparing the Páirc with. I know which one I would prefer to have in Cork.


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    #1329
    yabadabado
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Stupid comparison. Casement park, Gaelic grounds, McHale park, Fitzgerald stadium etc, are the stadiums you need to be comparing the Pc with. I know which one I would prefer to have in Cork.[/QUOTE]

    I'm gonna guess it's the one that cost multiples of the other grounds mentioned ?


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    #1330
    ShamoBuc
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    yabadabado wrote: »
    I'm gonna guess it's the one that cost multiples of the other grounds mentioned ?

    Absolutely, not rocket science really;)


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    #1331
    MissShihTzu
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    You used to be able to park up at the Pairc to walk along the Atlantic pond and the old railway track. Does anyone know if that parking has been restored or if the greedy gits have fenced it off for paid parking?


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    #1332
    clerk
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    MissShihTzu wrote: »
    You used to be able to park up at the Pairc to walk along the Atlantic pond and the old railway track. Does anyone know if that parking has been restored or if the greedy gits have fenced it off for paid parking?

    You can still park there for free.


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    #1333
    Cape Clear
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    clerk wrote: »
    You can still park there for free.

    Frankeen will even give you a free car wash voucher if his white elephant happens to defecate on your automobile.


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    #1334
    sheff the ref
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    Invariably Thurles will always get a lot more games than Pairc Ui Chaoimh due to its geographical neutrality. Thurles hosts a number of club games also.

    Pairc Ui Chaoimh may not host the same number of club games due to Pairc Ui Rinn which is a nice compact ground that has never got the credit it deserves


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    #1335
    Shedite27
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    sheff the ref wrote: »
    Invariably Thurles will always get a lot more games than Pairc Ui Chaoimh due to its geographical neutrality. Thurles hosts a number of club games also.

    Pairc Ui Chaoimh may not host the same number of club games due to Pairc Ui Rinn which is a nice compact ground that has never got the credit it deserves
    By who? Everyone loves Pairc Ui Rinn


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    #1336
    two wheels good
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    MissShihTzu wrote: »
    You used to be able to park up at the Pairc to walk along the Atlantic pond and the old railway track. Does anyone know if that parking has been restored or if the greedy gits have fenced it off for paid parking?

    The parking area near CAB is actually enlarged and surfaced. However, access was blocked by bollards yesterday when I visited - some bollards are removeable and secured with padlocks. ( I wonder who has the keys.)
    I don't know if the riverside parking area next to turnstiles is still open to the public.


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    #1337
    Rooy
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    documentary on TG4 tonight @9.30 (Sep 27) "An Pháirc" about redevelopment of Pairc Ui Chaoimh


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    #1338
    Ludo
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    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Has the pairc closed down again? Given the lack of talk about it on here of late.

    ...Yes...


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    #1339
    Cape Clear
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    Shedite27 wrote: »
    What in the name of god are ya comparing it to Croke Park for? They've complelty different purposes.

    Loads of county games between now and the finals, plenty will be held in PUC

    Have any county championship games been scheduled for the place yet?


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    #1340
    ShamoBuc
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    Cape Clear wrote: »
    Have any county championship games been scheduled for the place yet?

    Apparently so.


    Light at end of tunnel as Páirc sorts snags to host club finals



    Wednesday, September 27, 2017By Michael Moynihan
    Páirc Uí Chaoimh stadium manager Bob Ryan says the venue is dealing with the “snags to be expected on a project of this size” but says the stadium will be open for the business end of the local club championships.


    “The plan is for the semi-finals of the senior hurling championship to be played here on October 8,” Ryan said yesterday. “The senior football county final will be played the following Sunday, October 15, and the senior hurling final the Sunday after that, October 22.


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    #1341
    blue note
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    ShamoBuc wrote:
    “The plan is for the semi-finals of the senior hurling championship to be played here on October 8,†Ryan said yesterday. “The senior football county final will be played the following Sunday, October 15, and the senior hurling final the Sunday after that, October 22.


    What sort of crowds would these usually get?


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    #1342
    ShamoBuc
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    For the finals depends on who is playing and the weather really. Between 10 and 15 k but there is a novelty factor this year.


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    #1343
    blue note
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    For the finals depends on who is playing and the weather really. Between 10 and 15 k but there is a novelty factor this year.

    That will look tiny in that stadium. You'll really lose out on atmosphere from not having an appropriately sized place for the game.


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    #1344
    j8wk2feszrnpao
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    blue note wrote: »
    That will look tiny in that stadium. You'll really lose out on atmosphere from not having an appropriately sized place for the game.
    Probably the case for most county finals I'd imagine. Not a lot they can do about it. 15k for a final ain't bad at all.
    The goal will be to get as many Inter county games there as well as a few concerts.


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    #1345
    blue note
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    Vienna Rancid Creature wrote:
    Probably the case for most county finals I'd imagine. Not a lot they can do about it. 15k for a final ain't bad at all. The goal will be to get as many Inter county games there as well as a few concerts.


    Nothing they can do now. But croke park really needs to take responsibility for provincial grounds. Having as many as we do, and where we have them is embarrassing. And instead of having a ground suitable for club games now, you have a ground that will be 30% full for the county final. That will be repeated all over the country.


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    #1346
    ShamoBuc
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    blue note wrote: »
    That will look tiny in that stadium. You'll really lose out on atmosphere from not having an appropriately sized place for the game.

    But county finals have always been played there, it's not a new problem!

    The same can be said for most other counties in fact.


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    #1347
    ShamoBuc
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    blue note wrote: »
    Nothing they can do now. But croke park really needs to take responsibility for provincial grounds. Having as many as we do, and where we have them is embarrassing. And instead of having a ground suitable for club games now, you have a ground that will be 30% full for the county final. That will be repeated all over the country.

    Nothing embarrassing about it really. No stadium is used 12 months of the year for matches. Some finals could be played in pairc ui rinn but they shouldn't, the páirc will do fine. There are Munster club games but I doubt the páirc will see any this year.

    We needed a modern 40 to 45 k stadium, we now have a very good modern one. Should it be used more, yes. Will it be..... yes.....but not necessarily with 35k in attendance. We now have conference facilities that will be used throughout the week and weekends 12 months of the year. This will see the stadium in use. The majority of other stadiums don't have what we have but in time I'm sure it will be standard.


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    #1348
    blue note
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    But county finals have always been played there, it's not a new problem!

    The same can be said for most other counties in fact.

    I in fact said that it's a problem in a heap of counties around the country! And the annoying thing here was that there was an opportunity to correct this. They could have built a more compact stadium with a smaller capacity and it would have been great for club games and league games and they could have done it at less expense to the GAA, the government and the clubs of Cork.

    Unfortunately for Cork, it's just not suitably located for neutral games. So hopefully they won't make teams travel there because it's built (but I fear the worst). I hear it's a lovely stadium by the way. But I didn't get down there this year. I thought about going with the girlfriend for the quarter final, but we were just too concerned about traffic, parking and annoyed at the fact that we'd be driving past Croke Park and Thurles to get there, both more suitable options for a Waterford vs Wexford game.


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    #1349
    namloc1980
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    blue note wrote: »
    I in fact said that it's a problem in a heap of counties around the country! And the annoying thing here was that there was an opportunity to correct this. They could have built a more compact stadium with a smaller capacity and it would have been great for club games and league games and they could have done it at less expense to the GAA, the government and the clubs of Cork.

    Unfortunately for Cork, it's just not suitably located for neutral games. So hopefully they won't make teams travel there because it's built (but I fear the worst). I hear it's a lovely stadium by the way. But I didn't get down there this year. I thought about going with the girlfriend for the quarter final, but we were just too concerned about traffic, parking and annoyed at the fact that we'd be driving past Croke Park and Thurles to get there, both more suitable options for a Waterford vs Wexford game.

    Traffic and parking turned out to be a non issue in the end. Taking a Waterford and Wexford quarter final to Dublin would be beyond ridiculous.


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    #1350
    blue note
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    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Traffic and parking turned out to be a non issue in the end. Taking a Waterford and Wexford quarter final to Dublin would be beyond ridiculous.

    Not a non-issue, but less of an issue than expected. My friend was down very early and still drove around for 40 minutes trying to get a parking space. he probably was too optimistic and tried to get too good a spot, but that's still 40 minutes of wasted time really.

    And Croke Park is handier for Wexford and about as handy for most of the population of Waterford. The motorway makes Dublin very accessible and parking for Croke Park is a hell of a lot easier than Pairc Ui Caoimh unless they did some work to ease it when building the new stadium? My memory of it was it was a nightmare to park down there.


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    #1351
    ShamoBuc
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    blue note wrote: »
    I in fact said that it's a problem in a heap of counties around the country! And the annoying thing here was that there was an opportunity to correct this. They could have built a more compact stadium with a smaller capacity and it would have been great for club games and league games and they could have done it at less expense to the GAA, the government and the clubs of Cork.

    Unfortunately for Cork, it's just not suitably located for neutral games. So hopefully they won't make teams travel there because it's built (but I fear the worst). I hear it's a lovely stadium by the way. But I didn't get down there this year. I thought about going with the girlfriend for the quarter final, but we were just too concerned about traffic, parking and annoyed at the fact that we'd be driving past Croke Park and Thurles to get there, both more suitable options for a Waterford vs Wexford game.

    But I don't think it was an opportunity missed at all. Having a compact stadium of 25k for example would simply mean that there could Never be a Munster final ever again in Cork. That is simply not an option and rightly so.
    Plenty of league games in páirc in rinn for a better atmosphere if needed.

    Waterford v tip, limerick or clare is certainly suitable as a neutral venue.

    I don't really understand people going on about issues with traffic and parking. These issues were there for the last number of years, they were never going to be addressed or changed unless the páirc was built somewhere different. As mentioned before in this thread, go to any stadium for an attendance of 45k and you have issues, plain and simple. Thurles is a bottleneck with traffic jams for hours after any game. I got a bus from Anfield to the city centre after a match, 45 mins it Took, you can walk it in about 30-35 mins.


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