España -v- Honduras, 7:30pm RTE & ITV HD

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España -V- Honduras

Match 32 - Group H
Johannesburg - Ellis Park
Monday 21 June, 2010
7:30pm RTE & ITV HD

CorkMan

I think Spain will win this 2-3 nil definitely, if not 4-5 to make a point about the first loss.

I think Torress will be more fit, and I think if Iniesta isn't guaranteed to be top form before the game Fabregas should be place smack-bang in the middle of the Spanish midfield.

flahavaj

CorkMan wrote: »

I think Spain will win this 2-3 nil definitely, if not 4-5 to make a point about the first loss.

I think Torress will be more fit, and I think if Iniesta isn't guaranteed to be top form before the game Fabregas should be place smack-bang in the middle of the Spanish midfield.

How is this even possible?

curry-muff

flahavaj wrote: »

How is this even possible?

The spanish have an old technique of testing their players before games by rubbing bull semen on their skin, if the skin absorbs it then the player will definitely be on top form!!!

_Bella_

The spanish media apparently want Fabregas to play

I think Spain will win this by three for goal difference and to make a statement

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I think Spain will clean up here. I'm gonna go Spain -2 and -3.

CorkMan

flahavaj wrote: »

How is this even possible?

There has been talk of a injury, as he was out for the majority of last season, and it recurring in small bits. But they say it is only psychological as well, so people need to assess.

HalloweenJack

iPodemos!

Spanish telly are saying Iniesta won't play tomorrow. It'll be Fabregas instead, not too shabby as a replacement.

flahavaj

CorkMan wrote: »

There has been talk of a injury, as he was out for the majority of last season, and it recurring in small bits. But they say it is only psychological as well, so people need to assess.

How would you do this?

Lie detector?

Crystal ball?

Headshot

flahavaj wrote: »

How would you do this?

Lie detector?

Crystal ball?

mystic meg is out there already

citizenerased1

-2 does sound quite tempting..

8-10

citizenerased1 wrote: »

-2 does sound quite tempting..

-1 was tempting in the first game.

citizenerased1

8-10 wrote: »

-1 was tempting in the first game.

agreed!
still though the spanish with there backs on the ropes against a team on a par with Athlone town...

HalloweenJack

citizenerased1 wrote: »

agreed!
still though the spanish with there backs on the ropes against a team on a par with Athlone town...

Athlone Town don't have David Suazo and Wilson Palacios.

citizenerased1

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Athlone Town don't have David Suazo and Wilson Palacios.

but they do have Robbie Farell and David Bracken!:D

redout

Iniesta is injured (thigh) and will not play any part tomorrow said Del Bosque.

Del Bosque mixed up his players during the final training session to keep the media guessing his side unlike last week.

Cypher_sounds

redout wrote: »

Iniesta is injured (thigh) and will not play any part tomorrow said Del Bosque.

Del Bosque mixed up his players during the final training session to keep the media guessing his side unlike last week.

What are the chances of Silva starting this game? Navas may replace him after a good performance when he was introduced last time out?

pickarooney

What odds this group finishing with three teams on 6 points?
Chile to beat Switzerland, Spain to beat Honduras and Chile, Switzerland to beat Honduras - quite feasible, although there will surely be a draw at some stage.

redout

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

What are the chances of Silva starting this game? Navas may replace him after a good performance when he was introduced last time out?

Navas and good ?

Not against Switz - his delivery was awful.

Couldnt see why Silva wouldnt start.

As far as I know the only change will be a fit again Torres back in and Iniesta out as he is injured.

Spain should revert to their regular 4-4-2.

_Bella_

pickarooney wrote: »

What odds this group finishing with three teams on 6 points?
Chile to beat Switzerland, Spain to beat Honduras and Chile, Switzerland to beat Honduras - quite feasible, although there will surely be a draw at some stage.

I think this is the most likely scenario, unless Chile and Switzerland draw. This is why I think Spain will really go for it tonight and try and get as many goals as possible

101001

apparently starting with torres and villa up front... looks like theyre looking for a goalfest. I also thought i read silva was starting behind them both. Cant figure out where i read that though

redout

101001 wrote: »

apparently starting with torres and villa up front... looks like theyre looking for a goalfest. I also thought i read silva was starting behind them both. Cant figure out where i read that though

I dont know how anyone can say that as that is the way Spain always lineup in the first place. The only reason of late it wasnt like that was because Torres was out injured.

CorkMan

flahavaj wrote: »

How would you do this?

Lie detector?

Crystal ball?

It has been reported in the papers (Marca, AS, etc). Iniesta has been out for most of last season, but lately since the world cup commenced there has been no problems, but he then was "hurt" in the last game.

Doctors revealed the scan and it shows there is nothing wrong with the same area that kept him out last season, so they reckon it is mainly psychological, from Iniestas point of view.

Would you be the same if you were out for 7-8 months, given just 2 friendly games before the world cup and then thrown into the starting line up of the first game?

101001

redout wrote: »

I dont know how anyone can say that as that is the way Spain always lineup in the first place. The only reason of late it wasnt like that was because Torres was out injured.

Thought Torres played particularly badly against Swiss. He looked slugish and lacked confidence. TBH during the qualifiers i always thought he was backup for Villa. Am I wrong in thinking this?

redout

101001 wrote: »

Thought Torres played particularly badly against Swiss. He looked slugish and lacked confidence. TBH during the qualifiers i always thought he was backup for Villa. Am I wrong in thinking this?

Yeah, Spain play 4-4-2 with Torres and Villa up front.

They have been doing that since around about 2007.

Before that Torres and Villa use to play behind Garcia.

CorkMan

redout wrote: »

Yeah, Spain play 4-4-2 with Torres and Villa up front.

They have been doing that since around about 2007.

Before that Torres and Villa use to play behind Garcia.

Garcia? Who's he? Before 2007 Raul was the man.....ah Raul Garcia (for Espanyol). He wouldn't be good enough for the world cup.

EDIT: I meant Raul Tamudo. Who was Garcia?

redout

CorkMan wrote: »

Garcia? Who's he? Before 2007 Raul was the man.....ah Raul Garcia (for Espanyol). He wouldn't be good enough for the world cup.

EDIT: I meant Raul Tamudo. Who was Garcia?

Luis Garcia - Raul was down in the doldrums and found himself on the bench for the 2006 World Cup. He was dropped from the squad by Aragones shortly afterwards and hasnt been in a Spanish squad in the past 4 years.

Mr. Guappa

Looking forward to getting another look at the Spanish. They should win this one, and potentially be in line for a tasty looking Last 16 clash with Brazil or Portugal.

redout

España lineup:
Casillas; Ramos, Piqué, Puyol, Capdevila; Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Navas; Torres, Villa


G'wan no Busquets - Spain definitely looking for goals.

Expect Alonso to somewhat cover Busquets role but more advanced.

redout

Definitely would have preferred Mata/Pedro on instead of Navas.

No Fab?:eek:

CorkMan

Deleted User wrote: »

No Fab?:eek:

Ya! Fabregas>>>>Xabi Alonso, jesus christ.

Hopefully he will be def coming on at half time if there are ANY signs of something going wrong.

Spain 3 or 4 nil.

redout

redout wrote: »

España lineup:
Casillas; Ramos, Piqué, Puyol, Capdevila; Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Navas; Torres, Villa

Lineup changed - Busquets does start, Silva dropped.

Cant say I approve of Navas for Silva.

Peyton Manning

Redout, are you from Spain?

_Bella_

I cannot understand why Fabregas is not replacing Iniesta!

redout

Fcuk it - she back to distract Iker!

How Soon Is Now

Bit of a joke that Fab cant get into that Spanish midfield even with Iniesta injuried.

Does he not see if he goes to Barca its probley gonna be same situation.

Anyway couple goals for Fernando 2nite hopefully get my bet on him back on track. Id say 3 maybe 4 nil.

Cypher_sounds

Spain team

Casillas, Pique, Puyol, Capdevilla, Sergio, Xavi, Alonso, Navas, Busquets, Villa, Torres

Pepe LeFrits

C'mon Honduras.

ctrl-alt-delete

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Spain team

Casillas, Pique, Puyol, Capdevilla, Sergio, Xavi, Alonso, Navas, Busquets, Villa, Torres

Glad Torress is playing, but he did look very rusty the other day.

We will see how Spain handle the pressure tonight, it is only Honduras but stranger things have happened in this World Cup.

Am hoping if Torres can't bang them in, that at least he might have a positive link up with Villa

redout

Iker's lost the beard.

Maybe it will bring fortune :pac:

Score one and I reckon we'll see several.

How Soon Is Now

redout wrote: »

Fcuk it - she back to distract Iker!

Is there a game or something on tonight..................

redout

Xavi :eek:

It didnt happen.

MagicMarker

What kind of defending was that!

_Bella_

bad miss by torres

SV

MagicMarker wrote: »

What kind of defending was that!

honduras defending!





the way this is going i'm seeing at least a 4-0 win for spain

Pepe LeFrits

Honduras are going to get torn apart the way they're playing here.

rossie1977

CorkMan wrote: »

Ya! Fabregas>>>>Xabi Alonso, jesus christ.

SarahBM

I dont get why refs book guys for trying to take frees quickly. WTF
never a card!!!

redout

Spain could have had two peno's by now.

One would have been harsh but the Ramos one was a definite.