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Pedestrian safety???Why the hell would you ban cyclists?
Have you seen the number of pedestrians at College Green - oh perhaps I don't get it - after all, cyclists say there are too many pesky cars and I guess it might be a case of too many pesky pedestrians that need their numbers cut down too. So cyclists really don't like me as I'm both a motorist and long distance pedestrian - oh, I'm also a Luas fan and well as a fan of green verges (bring back our nice green roads!), so I'm really something to be reviled by cyclists!0 -
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Fixed to me means that trams and buses are co-existing peacefully and efficiently in College Green. That can certainly be achieved.
I don't see how. The road used to be be 4 lanes wide at it's narrowest point (2 lanes each direction)
Now it's only 2 lanes wide at it's narrowest point and needs to support a LUAS going through as well.
Volume of traffic is just to large, the bulk of the buses will eventually need to go somewhere else. IE Another Bus corridor/no private cars.
And it's obvious that, that place is going to be somewhere around the other side of TCD. Probably around Merrion St Upper or Kildare StYou talk about a car ban not being an option because people can't or won't live without them. No-one is talking about a widespread ban on cars, only in the very core of the city centre.
You only needs to Ban cars on a few more streets to make it nearly impossible to get into town via a CarBanning cars there has numerous advantages. Luas, Dublin Bus, Bus Eireann and all the private bus operators will benefit. Cyclists and pedestrians will benefit. The air quality will improve. The noise pollution levels will fall. None of this affects people driving in the suburbs or even the outer parts of the city centre.
Absolutely agreed, I use DART everyday. In theory if everyone used public transport there would be very little traffic to worry about in Dublin.
That being said.... I wouldn't like to see many more people use the DART in the mornings. It's packed full at 7:45am.
I saw a guy trying to get on with buggy with a baby in it this morning. He couldn't fit on.
Maybe more park and ride facilities is what we need?Per national and DCC policy, prioritisation goes:
Pedestrians > Cyclists > public transport > cars >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motorcycles
Fixed that for ya!
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Well they are planning to increase DART frequency to every 10 minutes, which should effectively double capacity.
They are roughly every 10/15 minutes atm, if you live between Howth Junction and BrayIn fairness trying to get a buggy on any public transport during peak times is rather silly. Either wait to off-peak if you can or use a baby carrier.
Agreed, it is silly. But that person had somewhere to go. You're right in that they probably should have used a baby carrier. That being said if you had a toddler (around 2 years old) you have to have a buggy.
The point is someone tried to use public transport rather then their car (I'm assuming they had one) and it wasn't work able. I think people that don't have small kids don't realise how completely unworkable public transport is.
Then they are fustigated by other people (who cycle/use public transport) for using their cars all the time. They have no other option 0 -
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They are roughly every 10/15 minutes atm, if you live between Howth Junction and Bray
Only at peak times, they are planning to increase it significantly throughout the day.Agreed, it is silly. But that person had somewhere to go. You're right in that they probably should have used a baby carrier. That being said if you had a toddler (around 2 years old) you have to have a buggy.
I've a 2 year old toddler and take public transport all the time. A carrier backpack makes it easy to take them. Or even a small compact buggy that is easy to fold into a small size (see the Babyzen Yoyo for example).
Too many people don't think about it and use massive buggies that simply aren't suited to public transport.The point is someone tried to use public transport rather then their car (I'm assuming they had one) and it wasn't work able. I think people that don't have small kids don't realise how completely unworkable public transport is.
Then they are fustigated by other people (who cycle/use public transport) for using their cars all the time. They have no other option
I've a 2 year old, don't have a car, take public transport everywhere. It is absolutely doable, you just have to put a little thought into it.
Try taking a big buggy on the London Underground or New York Subway and see how far you get!!0 -
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We use one of those McLaren buggies from the eighties, small even when open and folds up to near nothing. It was bought in 1984 and still works.
I bike or walk but if needed I could use a bus.
Easily
half 8 to half 5
20km
About 5 minutes (10 with the child) away
There are a few kids at the creche where this would not be feasible as they live in the countryside. There are however a number of people who live closer than me who drive to the creche, even though the walk would be the same time (slower during summer, quicker during term time).
Ok,
So the creche is less than 500m from your house.
You drop the kid off on your way to work and then it's an approx 20.0km commute to work via walking (that's about a 4 hour walk ) or bicycle (about 60 min cycle).
I could be taking you up wrong here. Sorry if I am.
Our child minder was 3.0km away uphill (37 min walk according to google maps). no choice but to use the car as there was no bus up that way from our house.
There is a bus from the childer minder to town but it was not regular enough and was even slower than the 16.0 -
Ok,
So the creche is less than 500m from your house.
You drop the kid off on your way to work and then it's an approx 20.0km commute to work via walking (that's about a 4 hour walk ) or bicycle (about 60 min cycle).
I could be taking you up wrong here. Sorry if I am.
Our child minder was 3.0km away uphill (37 min walk according to google maps). no choice but to use the car as there was no bus up that way from our house.
There is a bus from the childer minder to town but it was not regular enough and was even slower than the 16.
First of all, google maps seriously over estimate both walking and cycling times, and seem to aim for the 10% who take the longest. Creche is over a km away and estimated at 13minutes walk. Cycling from the creche, direct is 18km with alot of light or 20km with very few lights, both take about 45minutes. Creche opens from 730 to 1830, so there is not much leeway for errors but the 145 and the 84X would cover the journey if I didn't cycle it.
Like I said, it works for us and for many people who live in a town or city, it should work with a bit of effort.
Could you put a bike in your car and cycle from the childminders, or leave your motorbike there at the start of the week to take off the trek back to your house every day?0 -
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Ok,
So the creche is less than 500m from your house.
You drop the kid off on your way to work and then it's an approx 20.0km commute to work via walking (that's about a 4 hour walk ) or bicycle (about 60 min cycle).
I could be taking you up wrong here. Sorry if I am.
Our child minder was 3.0km away uphill (37 min walk according to google maps). no choice but to use the car as there was no bus up that way from our house.
There is a bus from the childer minder to town but it was not regular enough and was even slower than the 16.
Get a child minder or creche closer to your home?
Get a child minder/creche in town near your work? Bring your child in on the bus with a light folding pram like the Mclaren mentioned earlier or a child carrying back pack.
Cycle? Cycle to the child minder 3km would take only about 15 minutes, be there for 7:15, then cycle into town. You don't say exactly where you live/work, but Grange Road to South City area is only a 30 minutes cycle, would give you plenty of time to get in for 8am.
Ask work for flexible hours? Obviously might not be possible, but no harm in trying.
It takes a little effort and thought, but there are always ways.0 -
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