Luas Cross City (Line BX/D) [now open]

CramCycle

It was also only 5 metres of track, not like they ripped up the entire length of track from one end of the street to the other. Suppose it is free advertising for his business.

LeinsterDub

MJohnston wrote: »

Ah stop looking for an argument, I'm just trying to look at it from both perspectives, instead of moaning about moaning.

You're giving him a whinger too much credit. A shop that was open donkeys years and the works are well over due fair enough but he knew what he was getting into and the works are on schedule

MJohnston

LeinsterDub wrote: »

You're giving him a whinger too much credit. A shop that was open donkeys years and the works are well over due fair enough but he knew what he was getting into and the works are on schedule

How am I giving him *any* credit let alone too much? All I said was I hope the works are done before a business I like is affected too badly.

serfboard

LeinsterDub wrote: »

The works he knew of in advance of setting up his business and will bring thousands of people past his door daily when completed?

What are the chances that when the works are completed we'll see a follow-up article with him saying how great the Luas is and how it brings all that extra custom into his shop?

xper

LeinsterDub wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/507909/furious-dublin-cafe-owner-claims-luas-works-are-crippling-his-city-centre-business-nearly-three-years-on-from-when-it-began/

Ranting shop owner complains about works being on schedule

Have to laugh at the "Would you see this on the other side of the city?" comment.

Well, yes, Barry, that's kind of the fcuking point of the whole project.:rolleyes::)

Let's all promise to stop off at 147 and buy a sandwich on our first trips on the new Luas section and leave it at that.

spacetweek

I can understand his frustration, but a lot of what he said was plain silly and he didn't do his business any favours.

markpb

spacetweek wrote:

I can understand his frustration, but a lot of what he said was plain silly and he didn't do his business any favours.

He's in the press and we're talking about him right now. One poster here has talked about how good their food is. Even if it wasn't his intention, how did it not do his business any favors?

MJohnston

If anyone does go in there to complain, try the 147 Club, it's the best sandwich I've ever had

LeinsterDub

Testing starts in June

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/testing-of-new-luas-line-in-june-ahead-of-december-passenger-launch-35425963.html

Sierra Oscar

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Testing starts in June

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/testing-of-new-luas-line-in-june-ahead-of-december-passenger-launch-35425963.html

I see they are still sticking to the December date for the service becoming operational. Any chance of it opening earlier? It wouldn't surprise me to see it up and running by October. Afterall would be a good news story if it opens 'ahead of schedule'.

Jamie2k9

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I see they are still sticking to the December date for the service becoming operational. Any chance of it opening earlier? It wouldn't surprise me to see it up and running by October. Afterall would be a good news story if it opens 'ahead of schedule'.

Unlikely before November at least, it will take them months to test trams and of course of the idiots in car's to get used to it.

ongarboy

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Unlikely before November at least, it will take them months to test trams and of course of the idiots in car's to get used to it.

Some idiots in cars around Queen Street/Benburb Street still not used to the Red Line despite it being there 13 years.

Middle Man

ongarboy wrote: »

Some idiots in cars around Queen Street/Benburb Street still not used to the Red Line despite it being there 13 years.

Well, 12 penalty points for colliding with a tram might change attitudes.

Idbatterim

I see they are still sticking to the December date for the service becoming operational. Any chance of it opening earlier? It wouldn't surprise me to see it up and running by October. Afterall would be a good news story if it opens 'ahead of schedule'.

Id say they are reluctant to tie themselves down to it opening ahead ahead of schedule at this point, for several reasons. Unexpected delays and disappointment if date gets delayed, you can imagine the moron media if the date was brought forward and then put back "luas cross city opening delayed"

PhoenixParker

Under promise, over deliver. . . .

Let's keep our fingers crosssed for early November.

FreudianSlippers

Middle Man wrote: »

Well, 12 penalty points for colliding with a tram might change attitudes.

3 words: red. light. cameras.

Sierra Oscar

I notice the new trams aren't expected to be delivered until October, so that would rule out any early opening until November I'd imagine.

Idbatterim

do the current green and red line not have enough trams in reserve? would it be a big deal if peak time frequency was reduced by say 20%, would that be preferable to getting the line up and running?

Jamie2k9

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

I notice the new trams aren't expected to be delivered until October, so that would rule out any early opening until November I'd imagine.

It's not going to happen before November anyway, all drivers won't be finished training before September/October.

do the current green and red line not have enough trams in reserve? would it be a big deal if peak time frequency was reduced by say 20%, would that be preferable to getting the line up and running?

It would be a big deal!

LXFlyer

Idbatterim wrote: »

do the current green and red line not have enough trams in reserve? would it be a big deal if peak time frequency was reduced by say 20%, would that be preferable to getting the line up and running?

I can only assume that clearly you don't use the LUAS as it is?


There is no way you could reduce capacity during the Autumn/Winter. It is jammed at peak times.


The extended service will start either in late November or early December - people are just going to have to be patient.

Idbatterim

I can only assume that clearly you don't use the LUAS as it is?


There is no way you could reduce capacity during the Autumn/Winter. It is jammed at peak times.


The extended service will start either in late November or early December - people are just going to have to be patient.

generally I dont use it at peak times, although I have the odd time, obviously its a joke! I wasnt advocating that they do it, I was asking if its better than having LCC idle, while we wait for the new trams?

also green line platforms are currently being extended. Will the existing trams be lengthened any time soon?

Another question, they are wedged at peak times. Could they not take out an area of seating for standing only?

FreudianSlippers

When I'm in Dublin I take the Luas to go to meetings a few times a week; in the last 2 months, I can count the number of times at various hours of the day that it hasn't been fairly full if not crammed.

I'm thinking maybe 11am-ish is fairly quiet?

LXFlyer

Idbatterim wrote: »

generally I dont use it at peak times, although I have the odd time, obviously its a joke! I wasnt advocating that they do it, I was asking if its better than having LCC idle, while we wait for the new trams?

also green line platforms are currently being extended. Will the existing trams be lengthened any time soon?

Another question, they are wedged at peak times. Could they not take out an area of seating for standing only?

Let's not get carried away here.

The capacity is just about right at present for the current loadings - I was merely responding to your suggestion of cutting capacity which would not be an option. There is no point in opening the extension until everything is in place.

As far as I'm aware the existing Green Line trams will all be extended in length as part of the project.

spacetweek

ongarboy wrote: »

Some idiots in cars around Queen Street/Benburb Street still not used to the Red Line despite it being there 13 years.

I still remember when a popcorn truck or something had collided there a few minutes before I walked past, the damage to the truck was unbelievable. Front of the luas was smashed up too.

spacetweek

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

When I'm in Dublin I take the Luas to go to meetings a few times a week; in the last 2 months, I can count the number of times at various hours of the day that it hasn't been fairly full if not crammed.

I'm thinking maybe 11am-ish is fairly quiet?

Hopefully the 25% capacity increase on the way will help, though tbh I'd imagine that getting used up pretty fast.

Avada

spacetweek wrote: »

I still remember when a popcorn truck or something had collided there a few minutes before I walked past, the damage to the truck was unbelievable. Front of the luas was smashed up too.

It happens far too often. There should be red light enforcement cameras at every junction with the luas tracks.

marno21

http://www.universitytimes.ie/2017/02/tcdsu-to-request-changes-to-construction-schedule-as-luas-works-continue/

TCD students unhappy with the noise caused by the BXD works.

Stephen15

marno21 wrote: »

http://www.universitytimes.ie/2017/02/tcdsu-to-request-changes-to-construction-schedule-as-luas-works-continue/

TCD students unhappy with the noise caused by the BXD works.

I really have go on a frantic search for biggest violin I can find. Bloody hell I thought students saw the bigger picture. Well there you go I learned that students actually in TCD. Well there's a first anyway.

MJohnston

What dullness has student life become if they're trying to sleep at night anyway?

riadach

MJohnston wrote: »

What dullness has student life become if they're trying to sleep at night anyway?

Screams from those Viking tours are enough to keep them awake anyway.