South Africa -v- France Group A Free State Stadium, 3pm Irish Time Live on RTE 2/ITV1

billymitchell

df1985 wrote: »

to be in a fly on the wall in the french dressing room at half time! where does domenech even start??

I reckon the air will be bleu.......

GavRedKing

df1985 wrote: »

to be in a fly on the wall in the french dressing room at half time! where does domenech even start??

he doesnt do anything and twiddles his thumb, even if he a had team of Zinedien Zidanes he wouldnt get himself out of this mess.








But if he had a team of Gary Breens :pac:

aidan24326

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Sure the manager is only getting what he deserves, Malouda and Evra on left the bench is a joke, top players for their clubs last season.

We know they're top players but in fairness their ability as players has nothing to do with why they're on the bench. But I agree that the manager is certainly getting what he deserves. There will be no tears shed for him here and he's not exactly a popular figure in France either, to put it mildly.


PS what is the exact criteria they're using for qualification in the event of a tie?

What do they look at first? Goal difference? Goals scored? hed-to-head between the teams? Anyone know exactly?

peabutler

Domnech won't start, he'll be told to shut up by Evra-Henry etc who will make 3 changes I'd say including themselves. Im positive one of Henry, Abidal or Evra will come on now and Domnech won't have a say.

aidan24326

peabutler wrote: »

Domnech won't start, he'll be told to shut up by Evra-Henry etc who will make 3 changes I'd say including themselves. Im positive one of Henry, Abidal or Evra will come on now and Domnech won't have a say.

Would they even want to come on though? If I was a France player right now I'd be dying to get the hell out of there and go home.

gibson

ntlbell wrote: »

flip of a coin

if everything level iirc

either head to head or most goals scored i think

What a great game fair play to South Africa not going out scared just trying their best, obviously its helped playing against 10 men but for a team who dont have the greatest players theyre not playing bad football!!

Diaby at the corner for the first goal was laughable, the guys a giant and watches his man jump above him to head the ball into the net, diaby doesnt even jump lol :rolleyes:

peabutler

aidan24326 wrote: »

We know they're top players but in fairness their ability as players has nothing to do with why they're on the bench. But I agree that the manager is certainly getting what he deserves. There will be no tears shed for him here and he's not exactly a popular figure in France either, to put it mildly.


PS what is the exact criteria they're using for qualification in the event of a tie?

What do they look at first? Goal difference? Goals scored? hed-to-head between the teams? Anyone know exactly?

Goal Difference then Head to head (irrelavent for SA and Mexico) and then goals scored, so if it stays the same in Rustenberg and South Africa win by 4 The Bafana are through.

SarahBM

Id like to see SA get another goal. rub salt into the wounds
coz Im not bitter at all!!! :rolleyes:

that was definitely a red card IMO.

Cissé seems to be the only one trying. show some Spirit FFS! what a terrible attitude.

the positivity of SA is great to see.

DB10

In all fairness, Domenach put out a decent team and made the right choices for this line up. Left out the underperformers and troublemakers.

I knew Gallas should have been dropped though.

At the end of the day the manager can only do so much, these players are at fault.

_Bella_

the rte analysis is too anti-france

mike65

Chipy was very happy to see them go out before kick off, he is a bitter little man!

They need a good Uruguay win really.

Kev_ps3

_Bella_ wrote: »

the rte analysis is too anti-france

Na your just too pro-France:pac:

_Bella_

do people want to see a bafana bafana miracle or mexico through

gibson

SarahBM wrote: »

that was definitely a red card IMO.


the positivity of SA is great to see.

Theres no way that was a red card Gourcuff was jumping for the ball, yes he went in awkwardly but i cant see him trying to hurt the guy. that kinda of collision happens all the time and nothing is ever said.

Totaly agree with your last point however!!!

Paulw

_Bella_ wrote: »

the rte analysis is too anti-france

Try watching UTV. They're just having a laugh at France. At least the Irish panel have a reason to be bitter and anti-French.

Fanny Cradock

df1985 wrote: »

to be in a fly on the wall in the french dressing room at half time! where does domenech even start??

I can imagine them sitting there in silence.

Kev_ps3

mike65 wrote: »

Chipy was very happy to see them go out before kick off, he is a bitter little man!

They need a good Uruguay win really.

Well if the same thing happened to your team England you would be bitter aswell im sure

mike65

I wish people would stop romanticising South Africa.

Kev_ps3, Brady always struck me an an angry fellow.

_Bella_

maloudas on!

jesus_thats_gre

Considering Brady's involvement in the team, he has every right to resent France's participation in this tournament. In fact, he is doing well to resist burning a French flag live on TV.

DB10

Will everyone stop this Brady hates the French bull**** please!

His club is filled with the French and his boss is French, for the hundred time get into your heads!

SarahBM

mike65 wrote: »

I wish people would stop romanticising South Africa.

And why not!!!!! I would much rather see a team like south africa who are actually playing football and trying! get through than that sorry excuse for a french team. seriously. france dont deserve to be there! not with the awful attitude they have! :mad:

france are a disgrace to the game IMO

That_Guy

If Uruguay can score another without reply against Mexico, South Africa can go through if they score one more without reply... I think.

SarahBM

_Bella_ wrote: »

maloudas on!

I dont think he will be able to affect much change though.

Jazzy

ahh cisse, the most offside player ive ever seen. i think he might be a woman

_Bella_

Sooo close!

That_Guy

SarahBM wrote: »

And why not!!!!! I would much rather see a team like south africa who are actually playing football and trying! get through than that sorry excuse for a french team. seriously. france dont deserve to be there! not with the awful attitude they have! :mad:

france are a disgrace to the game IMO

If they were playing "great" football as you say then surely they'd be topping the group or coming in second instead of the situation they find themselves in now.

Mexico and Uruguay are better than South Africa and they play better football than SA imo.

It'd be great for the host nation to go through yes, but they're playing a team in turmoil at the moment. Would rather see Uruguay and Mexico in the last 16 who have a better chance of progressing.


As I type.... Should've been 3.

amacachi

Playing decent stuff South Africa now.

pickarooney

French commentary needs more Wenger. They're neither scathingly negative nor trying to make the best of it at the moment.

JerryHandbag

FFS he only needed to dink it

Aidric

Shocking effort.

Mars Bar

Was he not offside?

And how did he miss?!

BrandonFlowers

thierry handball comin on... interesting!

SarahBM

Jazzy wrote: »

ahh cisse, the most offside player ive ever seen. i think he might be a woman

:mad:

_Kaiser_

lol.. ITV commentators wondering aloud that not too many tears are being shed in Ireland... he'd be right!

SlickRic

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

lol.. ITV commentators wondering aloud that not too many tears are being shed in Ireland... he'd be right!

i'd hope most of Ireland simply doesn't give a sh*t at this stage.

Fizman

Lol Domenech bringing on Henry for Cisse, chasing a two goal lead. He's hilarious.

Kev_ps3

SlickRic wrote: »

i'd hope most of Ireland simply doesn't give a sh*t at this stage.

yeah because it was 100 years ago after all:rolleyes:

That_Guy

BrandonFlowers wrote: »

thierry handball comin on... interesting!

:rolleyes:

SarahBM

you would think that if France dont want to play for their manager they would at least want to do it for the fans. they are not even trying. :mad:

That_Guy - Forget a team in turmoil as the excuse. its of their own making.

come on South Africa!!!

_Bella_

Tshabalala is much better in this game, against Uraguay he kept trying to go for glory himself. Makes you wonder how many goals Uraguay could have scored if they hadn't gone out with the defensive mindset.

That_Guy

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

yeah because it was 100 years ago after all:rolleyes:

We're not there, we won't be there and France are going home. Shush now and eat your pizza.

BrandonFlowers

SlickRic wrote: »

i'd hope most of Ireland simply doesn't give a sh*t at this stage.

no no, wouldn't care that our chance of qualifying was taken away by cheating scum who then went to S.A played like they didn't give f**k and went on strike before leaving in the 1st round!

sure why would that be a bittr pill to swallow?

:D:D:D

Mr. Guappa

_Bella_ wrote: »

Tshabalala is much better in this game, against Uraguay he kept trying to go for glory himself. Makes you wonder how many goals Uraguay could have scored if they hadn't gone out with the defensive mindset.

I was just going to post that I was impressed with him today. Plays with Kaiser Chiefs but I could see him doing well in a mid-table Premiership team.

_Bella_

Accordin to BBC Mexico are really struggling in Rustenburg, I wouldn't be surprised if Uruguay got another. If they do, South Africa would only need to score once more.

Why is Henry captain now?

Diabhal Beag

South Africa have been good. Hopefully they can get at least 1 more goal.

pickarooney

Ribéry's value just keeps going down and down.

That_Guy

SarahBM wrote: »

you would think that if France dont want to play for their manager they would at least want to do it for the fans. they are not even trying. :mad:

That_Guy - Forget a team in turmoil as the excuse. its of their own making.

come on South Africa!!!

It's the manager who simply can't drive the players on. They're not guilty over what happened in Paris.. think I read that in some rag. They have a serious lack of belief in that team stemming from the manager.

They need a huge change there. I agree, the players don't look bothered and that's criminal especially when you should be proud to play for your country and your fans.

That_Guy

BrandonFlowers wrote: »

no no, wouldn't care that our chance of qualifying was taken away by cheating scum who then went to S.A played like they didn't give f**k and went on strike before leaving in the 1st round!

sure why would that be a bittr pill to swallow?

:D:D:D

Out of curiosity who scored for France that night?

SlickRic

BrandonFlowers wrote: »

no no, wouldn't care that our chance of qualifying was taken away by cheating scum who then went to S.A played like they didn't give f**k and went on strike before leaving in the 1st round!

ok, i was as angry as anyone at the time.

but let's as a nation, be mature and move on.

we can take enjoyment in them losing, absolutely, but they didn't do anything that our players didn't admit themselves that they would do.

so let's leave 'scum' out of it.