The Vampire Diaries - Season 2 [US] *Spoilers*

DeWitt

First look of present day Klaus :
http://www.tvline.com/2011/04/vampire-diaries-spoilers-klaus/

His hair makes me sad. I much preferred the flashback style.

DeWitt

Richard Dower wrote: »

My hitlist - Bonnie/Jeremy/Matt/Sherrif Mom/John......we need an epic culling!!!!!

I'd be happy with all them dying, with the exception of Jonathan Gilbert. Dave Anders

Jaxxy

DeWitt wrote: »

I'd be happy with all them dying, with the exception of Jonathan Gilbert. Dave Anders

Aahhh, how I loved him as Sark and Josef. I'd even take Adam Monroe at this stage.

Richard Dower

^ as someone mentioned in that article, i also *just* saw him in Ben Hur....he wasn't amazing but he wasn't bad either. His performance was adequate for the part, but no Emmy wins if you get what i mean.

Tbh....me seeing him in Ben Hur does NOT instill me with the idea Klaus will be the scariest and deadliest vamp ever. Elijah fills that role imo!!

Jaxxy

Richard Dower wrote: »

Tbh....me seeing him in Ben Hur does NOT instill me with the idea Klaus will be the scariest and deadliest vamp ever. Elijah fills that role imo!!

I liked/like Elijah too. He had that oldwordly evil thing going on. I like that. He was obviously evil, but he had nice table manners too.

Richard Dower

DeWitt wrote: »

First look of present day Klaus :
http://www.tvline.com/2011/04/vampire-diaries-spoilers-klaus/

His hair makes me sad. I much preferred the flashback style.

His hair is identical to that seen in Ben Hur, will he have the English accent or American like Klaric?....that p!ssed me off last night :mad:
The previous ep. we saw Klaric speaking Bulgarian/Russian type....then next ep. Klaric is all preppy Americano :rolleyes:

Jaxxy

Richard Dower wrote: »

His hair is identical to that seen in Ben Hur, will he have the English accent or American like Klaric?....that p!ssed me off last night :mad:
The previous ep. we saw Klaric speaking Bulgarian/Russian type....then next ep. Klaric is all preppy Americano :rolleyes:

I gigglesnorted at that, at the end of the last episode he went all Count Chocula, with his "Katerina, I haf misst yoo." No sign of it in the latest episode though, maybe it ran away with Jeremy's balls.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Finally got to see this weeks episode. Was a bit of a let down I guess in that we've been waiting for Klaus to show up for so long and then all he did was play a request for Elena.
Still, important things, Katherine is still alive and if he drags out her death for 250 years I'm OK with that. Although in next weeks promo she's dancing around drinking so she seems to be doing OK

Bonnie's "death". Was kind of hoping it was real, but at least she's trapped in a house for the foreseeable future, and has Jeremy down there with her. Oh how I wanted Klaus' minions to kill Jeremy too. How much do you wanna bet that the people we actually want to see die will still be alive and kicking next season and those we love will be dust

Poor Matty Blue Eyes, they let him in on the secret, give him his own secret and still he has nothing to do

Extended promo for next week:

Is anyone else getting the idea that Klaus and Elijah might've been related? Or that there was a similar situation with them as there was with Damon/Stefan/Katherine? Some of the stuff they say in the flashbacks in that promo all sounds very familiar.

P.S. How funny is the product placement in this show It's so terrible and out of place that I have to wonder are they making it that way on purpose. I remember them being really obvious about something on 30 Rock before. They basically had Jack and Liz have a conversation about something while constantly looking at the camera and Liz finished it with "now give us our money!!"
Are they trying to be like that on TVD or are they just really bad at working in the stuff? I know all American shows do it but it's just too funny on this show. Jeremy's MyFi was brilliant. Not quite as good as them using Caroline's ipad to order pizza but a close second.

Richard Dower

^ or Caroline's talking Ford car :-) ^ the product placement got a bit of a pasting on DS from the fans this week, good crack reading the thread :-)

It'll never outshine the product placement for Dr. Pepper on 90210 though!

Richard Dower

One word to describe this episode......EPIC, or the modern lingo......O.M.G.!!
Haha!....what a brilliant line from Williamson/Plec when the reveal of the brothers was revealed, Elijah throws out an OMG to describe the bombshell.......

Lots of twists, reveals and action in that ep., jam packed as usual....Daniel Giles is FAR better an actor/screen presence then Joseph Morgan/Klaus....far better!

I was never once scared of Klaus, a pretty boy who needs to have his locks chopped down. Soo many interesting dynamics in that ep. especially between Stefan and Elena, the brothers fighting between themselves, that'll run.

Lots of history and info, no moon curse, all a bluff....on the show or a bluff pulled on the fans for an entire season?. :mad:

Top notch tv!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Have to say I was kind of disappointed by that episode. Everything that Elijah revealed to Elena I had already figured out. I mean the moonstone thing was obviously not real. If anybody took two minutes to Bing the Aztec civilization they'd have figured out that it didn't make sense in terms of time line. Or if they thought about it why on earth would a vampire spend hundreds of years trying to break a spell that would achieve something a gaudy blue ring whipped up by a witch in about a minute would've achieved?

Sometimes I think they're all so dumb that they deserve to die.

I do wonder was that they're plan all along, or was it a case of so many people pointing out how little sense it made that they then had to try and fix it. It was quite clever how they managed to do that, but I will be glad to see the end of that stupid bloody rock in a few weeks.

I was glad to see Stefan grow some back bone, and for them to finally address the fact that Damon loves Elena out loud. They always avoid the actual issue even though everyone's happy to use it to manipulate Damon into doing what they want on a weekly basis. I was also glad to see Damon have a back bone and walk away from them all. I'm sure his rogue attitude will backfire in a major way before the finale but for now it's nice to see some of the old Damon back.

All episodes are made better by dancing (except episodes set at a dance) more of that please. So glad to see Katherine still alive and Damon kind of trying to help her stay that way. I won't hold my breath for her seeing season 3, but fingers crossed

Richard Dower

Nina obrev was great in this ep. - Jenna, bless her...she was really shocked finding everything out. I had wondered by happened to Andie Starr...then she pops up, i was totally expecting her to get the neck snapped in that ep.

I think Katherine will escape and pop up now and again. Who i wonder was the doppleganger of Katherine?....i mean the original girl Elijah fell for?

Grindylow

Richard Dower wrote: »

Nina obrev was great in this ep. - Jenna, bless her...she was really shocked finding everything out. I had wondered by happened to Andie Starr...then she pops up, i was totally expecting her to get the neck snapped in that ep.

I think Katherine will escape and pop up now and again. Who i wonder was the doppleganger of Katherine?....i mean the original girl Elijah fell for?

The original girl was Katherine. Elijah had fell for her, that's how she escaped as far as I can tell.. She must have got turned after that, ie: she was the original doppelganger, then she got turned, so a new doppleganger had to be born to replace her as she couldn't be used as she was no longer human!

Richard Dower

^ right, ok....but then that means Katherine was a clone/lookalike for someone else....ergo, who was the ORIGINAL girl, before Katherine?....Elijah said Katherine reminded him of someone.

Grindylow

Richard Dower wrote: »

^ right, ok....but then that means Katherine was a clone/lookalike for someone else....ergo, who was the ORIGINAL girl, before Katherine?....Elijah said Katherine reminded him of someone.

Yeah I'm guessing it's something to do with the story of how they got turned into the vampires, he never specified anything about it, and Klaus had such a disregard for her that it seems he was holding a vengeance upon her or something.. Elijah probably didn't know she was the doppelganger during the clip of what we saw back at Klaus' birthday party, and it was after that the whole plan came into action. It's not as if Katherine was compelled to go to the party, she went by choice, so it may have just been luck that Katherine was a doppelganger who they could easily catch.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Richard Dower wrote: »

^ right, ok....but then that means Katherine was a clone/lookalike for someone else....ergo, who was the ORIGINAL girl, before Katherine?....Elijah said Katherine reminded him of someone.

Trevor brought Katherine to the party because he knew she was the doppelganger. Klaus and Elijah had already been spreading the story of the sun and the moon curse at this point, so clearly there was someone else before of whom Katherine was the doppelganger.

It probably has something to do with the curse. I was thinking maybe it was their mother or something, makes sense that she would be used to cast the curse in the first place, but it's too creepy that Klaus and Elijah would both fancy someone that looked like their mother!! Although, Elijah never stated he romantically cared for Katherine, just that he cared. Still kind of creepy though.

Grindylow

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Trevor brought Katherine to the party because he knew she was the doppelganger. Klaus and Elijah had already been spreading the story of the sun and the moon curse at this point, so clearly there was someone else before of whom Katherine was the doppelganger.

It probably has something to do with the curse. I was thinking maybe it was their mother or something, makes sense that she would be used to cast the curse in the first place, but it's too creepy that Klaus and Elijah would both fancy someone that looked like their mother!! Although, Elijah never stated he romantically cared for Katherine, just that he cared. Still kind of creepy though.

Doubt it was their mother who cast the curse. Elijah said his father wasn't Klaus' father, and that the vampire blood line was in their family, and Klaus has the vampire blood line as well as the werewolf blood line, so that means the vampire blood line came from the mother. She couldn't have cursed her own family/herself that way!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Doubt it was their mother who cast the curse. Elijah said his father wasn't Klaus' father, and that the vampire blood line was in their family, and Klaus has the vampire blood line as well as the werewolf blood line, so that means the vampire blood line came from the mother. She couldn't have cursed her own family/herself that way!

I didn't say she caused it. Elijah said it was the witches that actually cast the spell but whoever the original person who Katherine/Elena look like was used as a sacrifice to seal the curse. So it could've been the mother that they used in the original sacrifice.

The vampire thing doesn't run in the blood either. Elijah never said how they actually became vampires and given that vampires can't reproduce it's unlikely that his parents were vampires, or if they were they weren't when all their kids were born. Plus obviously Klaus and Elijah didn't become vampires until they were the age they are now, so they weren't born like that.

Grindylow

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I didn't say she caused it. Elijah said it was the witches that actually cast the spell but whoever the original person who Katherine/Elena look like was used as a sacrifice to seal the curse. So it could've been the mother that they used in the original sacrifice.

The vampire thing doesn't run in the blood either. Elijah never said how they actually became vampires and given that vampires can't reproduce it's unlikely that his parents were vampires, or if they were they weren't when all their kids were born. Plus obviously Klaus and Elijah didn't become vampires until they were the age they are now, so they weren't born like that.

Yeah but it was in their blood line, the same way werewolf is in the Lockwood's blood line. It'll probably all be cleared up in the next episode if Elijah starts to tell Elena more stuff about it. They didn't just randomly get turned into vampires, something triggered them to get turned.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Noel2k9 wrote: »

Yeah but it was in their blood line, the same way werewolf is in the Lockwood's blood line. It'll probably all be cleared up in the next episode if Elijah starts to tell Elena more stuff about it. They didn't just randomly get turned into vampires, something triggered them to get turned.

It's not in the blood line though. That would mean that you could only become a vampire if it was in your bloodline which clearly isn't the case. Yes they were somehow turned into vampires but it wasn't because it was in their DNA. Plus like I said, vampires can't reproduce so how would the bloodline carry on like that? It couldn't.

Grindylow

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

It's not in the blood line though. That would mean that you could only become a vampire if it was in your bloodline which clearly isn't the case. Yes they were somehow turned into vampires but it wasn't because it was in their DNA. Plus like I said, vampires can't reproduce so how would the bloodline carry on like that? It couldn't.

That's not the point. There's no proof in this that vampires can't reproduce either, may I point out. But, it clearly has something to do with their blood, they pass it on by getting another to drink their blood, and then kill them to turn them. ie: Their blood line gets transferred into another...?

Richard Dower

Ouch!!...series low for TVD, the overall viewers + the female demo are dire (for TVD) but still the highest rated for the network overall, it's not in danger but i do think Idol is hurting it, alot:

The Vampire Diaries
- 2.700 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 1.2/4 A18-49
- 1.2/4 A18-34
- 1.5/5 W18-34

Nikita
- 2.013 million viewers
- 1.3/2 HH
- 0.8/2 A18-49
- 0.6/2 A18-34
- 0.8/2 W18-34

^ Nikita is holding up well though.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Noel2k9 wrote: »

That's not the point. There's no proof in this that vampires can't reproduce either, may I point out. But, it clearly has something to do with their blood, they pass it on by getting another to drink their blood, and then kill them to turn them. ie: Their blood line gets transferred into another...?

It's been stated a number of times by different characters that they can't reproduce.

As for the blood transfer thing, it's not like a transfusion, the person becoming a vampire still has their own blood in them, it's not like they've suddenly got the person who turned them's DNA in them.

Obviously there is still more to learn about how Klaus, Elijah etc. became vampires in the first place but I don't think it's a case of it being a genetic thing. We'll see.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Richard Dower wrote: »

Ouch!!...series low for TVD, the overall viewers + the female demo are dire (for TVD) but still the highest rated for the network overall, it's not in danger but i do think Idol is hurting it, alot:

Idol and there's NBA and NHL playoffs on too. I'd imagine there's quite a few ladies who usually have control of the TV on Thursdays are having to make way. Those numbers are so vague though, the boxes aren't in every home and it doesn't take into account people who record it to watch later, or people who watch it on line legally. It's still the top rated show on CW though, so unless the entire network goes under I'd say it's safe enough. Strange that it hasn't been officially renewed already though.

DeWitt

I'm not really liking JM as Klaus, but I'll wait to see how it plays out before I comment further. The guy just isn't scary....yet.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

DeWitt wrote: »

I'm not really liking JM as Klaus, but I'll wait to see how it plays out before I comment further. The guy just isn't scary....yet.

I dunno, I thought his blatant disregard for human life was kind of off putting. Also when he did lose the head with Elijah it was kind of scary. I think the calm and cool menacing type can be more scary than someone who just stomps around the place all the time. To be fair though we haven't really seen much of him in the present day so maybe he'll get scarier. I hope they make him a horrible horrible person because I really don't need another villain to love and have to worry about their death all the time

Richard Dower

Noel2k9 wrote: »

That's not the point. There's no proof in this that vampires can't reproduce either, may I point out. But, it clearly has something to do with their blood, they pass it on by getting another to drink their blood, and then kill them to turn them. ie: Their blood line gets transferred into another...?

Elijah and 5 of the kids were born human, they didn't have a bloodline or vamp DNA, someone or something turned the family....or one family member and that member then turned everyone else.

Vamps cannot reproduce, meaning the 6 kids wre born before becoming vamps. As for the mother cheating and getting preggers with Klaus....that suggests Klaus' father was a warewolf, the mother was human....ergo reproduction not afforded vamps.

So Klaus grew up warewolf, but was turned in his mid-late 20's into a vamp, a hybrid wolf/vamp.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Richard Dower wrote: »

So Klaus grew up warewolf, but was turned in his mid-late 20's into a vamp, a hybrid wolf/vamp.

I'm wondering did he grew up with the wolf gene but never actually activated it? Like Tyler did? Is it likely he'd have killed someone before he became a vampire and been an actively turning warewolf before whatever happened to make them vampires? It's probably not important actually. He can't shift into one now anyway.

Richard Dower

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I'm wondering did he grew up with the wolf gene but never actually activated it? Like Tyler did? Is it likely he'd have killed someone before he became a vampire and been an actively turning warewolf before whatever happened to make them vampires? It's probably not important actually. He can't shift into one now anyway.

I think it remains dormant until you reach a certain age, like late teens or something. It makes more sense imo.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Richard Dower wrote: »

I think it remains dormant until you reach a certain age, like late teens or something. It makes more sense imo.

I think the killing someone activates it thing would probably restrict it to a certain age anyway. I mean it's unlikely a young child would kill someone and activate it at like 5 or something. Although if you think about it, way back whenever Klaus and Elijah were born, they were probably always pillaging some neighbouring village or being pillaged themselves, so the chances of him activating it would be quite high.
I suppose it doesn't really matter if he activated it or not though because it didn't really become an issue until he was a vampire too.

On that note, could Tyler become a vampire? If they killed him as far away from the full moon as possible, would he then be a warepire too? And would the curse then apply to him too, thus solving his wolf problem?

Richard Dower

^ my guess is you need to be an original to be a hybrid.

Sudden Valley

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

On that note, could Tyler become a vampire? If they killed him as far away from the full moon as possible, would he then be a warepire too? And would the curse then apply to him too, thus solving his wolf problem?

I'm disappointed in the direction the plot went this week. The whole idea of a warepire/werepire? was done in the Underworld films and all I remember from that was how dumb looking the hybrid looked. A big question is what happened to the other five brothers then? Why did Elijah and klaus only hang together? I think any wampire stories that ever mention the origin of the species runs into serious problems in not making it sound ridiculous.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Sudden Valley wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the direction the plot went this week. The whole idea of a warepire/werepire? was done in the Underworld films and all I remember from that was how dumb looking the hybrid looked. A big question is what happened to the other five brothers then? Why did Elijah and klaus only hang together? I think any wampire stories that ever mention the origin of the species runs into serious problems in not making it sound ridiculous.

Yeah, I wonder is that why Elijah kind of brushed over it all. Maybe they're not going to go into any more detail with it. I suppose they don't really need to as it isn't relevant to what's actually happening. I also wonder if this was the plan from the beginning or was there so much confusion with the "sun and moon" Aztec curse thing that they had to rethink the whole thing and try and salvage an explanation.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Officially renewed for season 3. It was never really in doubt but it's nice to have official confirmation.

PhiloCypher

Sudden Valley wrote: »

I'm disappointed in the direction the plot went this week. The whole idea of a warepire/werepire? was done in the Underworld films and all I remember from that was how dumb looking the hybrid looked. A big question is what happened to the other five brothers then? Why did Elijah and klaus only hang together? I think any wampire stories that ever mention the origin of the species runs into serious problems in not making it sound ridiculous.

Totally there with you on that, a needless twist IMHO , I also thought the attempt at narrative symmetry by having yet another set of brothers obsessed with Ms Dobrev to be a trifle cliche .

DeWitt

Yeah, wasn't worried about TVD. Here's hoping we get word on Nikita next.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

PhiloCypher wrote: »

Totally there with you on that, a needless twist IMHO , I also thought the attempt at narrative symmetry by having yet another set of brothers obsessed with Ms Dobrev to be a trifle cliche .

I think the main storyline this season has been pretty poor. If it wasn't for the complicated relationships between those involved I'd say it sucked to be honest. Katherine and Caroline's story have probably been the highlight of the season, might even say they saved it. The worst set of episodes were the ones after they locked Katherine in the cave, which also coincided with the heavy focus on the wolves. I didn't care about the wolves and I can't say I particularly care about Klaus and what he's trying to do.
It's not that I don't like Elena but did we ever think she'd actually die in this silly twisted over complicated plot line? Nope.

Richard Dower

While it's nice to have renewal confirmation, i'm VERY worried about Nikita!!....i'm not arsed about OTH or Hellcats.

Grindylow

Richard Dower wrote: »

While it's nice to have renewal confirmation, i'm VERY worried about Nikita!!....i'm not arsed about OTH or Hellcats.

OTH will most likely be picked up, dunno about Hellcats, but I've a feeling MTV in the US will pick that up like they did over here. Nikita looks fairly promising if they're getting rid of Hellcats anyway.

Richard Dower

Sneak peaks for tonights ep., dunno why SpoilerTV stopped using YT links?...these Springboard clips can't be embedded on Boards....grrr!

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/04/vampire-diaries-episode-220-last-day_26.html

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/04/vampire-diaries-episode-220-last-day_28.html

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/28/vampire-diaries-joseph-morgan-klaus-interview/

tomissex

Wow...really don't wana wait til next week for the next episode! Was wondering when the Elena becoming a vampire thing would be touched on! Had kinda already thought Damon would do that to save her but damn him, she doesn't want that! Hoping since Tyler hadn't fully transformed that Damon will be OK....

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Not sure how I'm feeling about all this lately.

How exactly was their plan going to work anyway? Klaus has to sacrifice the ware wolf and the vampire before he even gets anywhere near drinking Elena dry, so they were quite happy to just sit back and let him off some random vamp and wolf as long as Elena would be OK? And it never occurred to them that it would probably be someone they knew in at least one of the sacrificial places?

I don't know what they're trying to do to Damon anymore. I'm wondering if they will actually let him die from the wolf bite? They've pretty much destroyed his relationship with Elena and that was the only thing keeping him around really. He's also kind of responsible for Jenna being a vamp now, although if he hadn't done what he did Caroline and Tyler would've ended up dead so....

But yeah, not at all sure how I feel about it. Katherine's still alive though and Klaus has no plans for using her in the sacrifice so hooray for that

DeWitt

I'm still not feeling Klaus. He's just not intimadating.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

DeWitt wrote: »

I'm still not feeling Klaus. He's just not intimadating.

He looks almost exactly like my three year old cousin, I find him too adorable to be intimidating.

Richard Dower

Brilliant episode, very ensemble in structure....everyone got screentime, too many twists and shockers to count, the big one being....Jenna is a vamp!, holy crap!....how will Alaric feel about that?

OK, lets think about who MIGHT die!....i think Jenna is for the chop, i think Matt will be an innocent death due to stupidity on his part.....a third will be on deaths door. Either Damon or Elena.

I suspect Katherine will survive and skulk off into the night to return next season when ratings require her :-)
Beautiful and honest scene with Elena and Damon on the hillside....i've long suspected that Elena never wanted that life, i think Stefan knew it all along as well. Sooo much happened, hard to take in!...lol, can't wait now for the two part finale, big cliffhanger i expect.

The Vampire Diaries (96% coverage CW normally 95%)
- 2.679 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 1.2/4 A18-49
- 1.3/5 A18-34
- 1.9/6 W18-34

Nikita (96% coverage)
- 1.723 million viewers
- 1.1/2 HH
- 0.6/2 A18-49
- 0.6/2 A18-34
- 0.7/2 W18-34

^ bad for TVD...terrible for Nikita!

Richard Dower

Huh?....didn't even know Stefan was dating Melissa....now married?

http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2011/04/paul-wesley-devito.html

DeWitt

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Hawaii-Smallville-1032657.aspx

Will we see anymore flashbacks on The Vampire Diaries this year? — Betty
NATALIE:

The final two episodes left are very much about the present. If you're a fan of the history lessons, though, you're going to love next season, which has already been dubbed "the year of the originals," and thus will feature many flashbacks. The bad news: Neither Joseph Morgan nor Daniel Gillies (Klaus and Elijah, respectively) have new contracts yet

.

Great news, I'm really looking forward to season3 after hearing that.

JP Liz V1

Is Ian Somerhalder and Nina Dobrev dating off screen?

DeWitt

According to blogger sites, but neither of them have confirmed it...yet.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

DeWitt wrote: »

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-Hawaii-Smallville-1032657.aspx


Great news, I'm really looking forward to season3 after hearing that.

I dunno, season 1 flashbacks were great to fill us in on the brothers past, but apart from the Katerine flashback episode this season I thought they were a bit pointless.
I like Elijah, and Klaus seems pretty cool but I don't care enough about them to want to see time given over to their past.