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Revelation 8:8,9 and the Gulf oil spill.
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23-06-2010 1:06pm#1Does anybody here believe that the 2nd Angel's trumpet is being blown right now in the Deepwater horizon oil gusher, the oil looks red like blood, the sealife is dying, and it's only the beginning, the oil cannot be stopped, the mountain may be rumbling below about to make its arrival known in a huge methane explosion which will sink ships, seems everything is ripe for Revelation 8:,9 to be fulfilled.
How the ultimate BP Gulf disaster could kill millions.
Disturbing evidence is mounting that something frightening is happening deep under the waters of the Gulf of Mexico—something far worse than the BP oil gusher.
According to worried geologists, the first signs that the methane may burst its way through the bottom of the ocean would be fissures or cracks appearing on the ocean floor near the damaged well head.
Evidence of fissures opening up on the seabed have been captured by the robotic submersibles working to repair and contain the ruptured well. Smaller, independent plumes have also appeared outside the nearby radius of the bore hole itself.
According to some geological experts, BP's operations set into motion a series of events that may be irreversible.
With the emerging evidence of fissures, the quiet fear now is the methane bubble rupturing the seabed and exploding into the Gulf waters. If the bubble escapes, every ship, drilling rig and structure within the region of the bubble will instantaneously sink. All the workers, engineers, Coast Guard personnel and marine biologists measuring the oil plumes' advance will instantly perish.
As horrible as that is, what would follow is an event so potentially horrific that it equals in its fury the Indonesian tsunami that killed more than 600,000, or the destruction of Pompeii by Mt. Vesuvius.
http://www.helium.com/items/1864136-how-the-ultimate-bp-gulf-disaster-could-kill-millions
Experts Puzzled at Red Gulf Oil Slick
This occurrence is highly unusual
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Experts-Puzzled-at-Red-Gulf-Oil-Slick-142907.shtml
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17WLmFWYsyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhugmaAL3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytlxw5sxz3E
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What gets my goat is that events of minimal global significance get hyped up by doomsday enthusiasts because they happen in the most self-obsessed nation in the world - the USA.
So, Hurricane Katrina was pumped as some big prophetic event, even though worse flooding and loss of life occurs in Bangladesh every single year.
The same with the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. The same volume of oil has ben spilled into the waters of the Nigerian Delta region every day for the last 20 years. But the only time we hear about it is when the long-suffering fishermen get desperate enough to kidnap a few western oil workers. Yet the same thing happens for a few weeks in US waters and suddenly it's the end of the world.
No this is totally different, and your quote is wrong, the same amount (as what has gushed from the gulf so far, going on official underestimates), every year not day, mainly due to neglect and sabotage, this is across land, swamp and sea, its a crime and disgrace, it destroys lives and livelihoods, but mainly due to big oil not giving a toss about anything other than profit. All bad, cruel and evil. Man can turn off the tap should he wish and flow/spills would stop.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201006170009.html
http://www.offshore-technology.com/projects/agbami/
http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_10.asp
But......
The deepwater horizon is something totally different,much bigger, technology man has cannot contain this pressure, it is a mile under the sea, and its really a monster, a normal well has pressure of 1,000-2,000 psi (pound square inch), some estimates put the deepwater horizon at 70,000-100,000 psi, some people say it's gushing millions of gallons per day, there is a media blackout and a no fly zone over the gulf, if anything I think US corporate controlled media are playing it down.
This estimate would put the amount at almost 16 million gallons per day
Just how big is that gusher in the Gulf of Mexico?
http://pesn.com/2010/05/23/9501654_Gulf_gusher_size/
They have tried all they have, it's becoming more unstable by the second,Fanny Cradock wrote: »In short, no, I don't think this.
Out of curiosity, how do you know that the oil can not be stopped?
There is talk of using a nuke to stop the flow, it may be the last and only option, this really is that bad,
Nuke the Gulf oil spill, says expert
http://bpoilnews.com/gulf-oil-spill-response/nuke-the-gulf-oil-spill-says-expert/
A nuke to stop the Gulf oil spill
http://www.ngoilgas.com/news/a-nuke-to-stop-the-gulf-oil-spill/
Nuking the oil spill: nuclear option being considered?
http://oil-price.net/en/articles/nukes-to-stop-the-oil-gusher.phpFanny Cradock wrote: »Really?
No. Read all about it in quote below, it's per year (not per day) in Nigeria V's total up to 25 days ago(the article is from 30 May 2010), coming from 1 mile below the Gulf sea. 2 very different situations. Nigeria total per year is equal to a little over a month in Gulf.(calculated from very low estimates from the gulf)
From the article.In fact, more oil is spilled from the delta's network of terminals, pipes, pumping stations and oil platforms every year than has been lost in the Gulf of Mexico, the site of a major ecological catastrophe caused by oil that has poured from a leak triggered by the explosion that wrecked BP's Deepwater Horizon rig last month.
This is by far worse than anybody here realises,
Mother of all gushers could kill Earth's oceans
http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_all_gushers_could_kill_Earths_oceans/
Why Is the Gulf Oil Slick Red?
The oil slick that's spreading atop the Gulf of Mexico looks nothing like the black gunk and tar balls that have washed ashore.
The reason for the reddish coloring of the oil slick has to do with how the oil mixes with water, but scientists are puzzled as to why the colors coating the Gulf water are so bright.
http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/why-is-the-gulf-oil-slick-red-0802/
Revelation 8:8
And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Revelation 8:9
And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
Should they decide on the nuke option and something go wrong, there will be a mountain of fire in the sea, should the ocean floor rupture, every detail of Revelation 8:8,9 will be fulfilled, it's a very real possibility.
The Niger Delta is a sad fact, but the Gulf is Terrifying, much faster flow, and is exclusively under water at the starting point of the North Atlantic Drift sea current which sends waters to these shores.
Sea creatures flee spill, gather near shore
Scientists say phenomena may signal polluted habitat, loss of fish
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37738626/Just how bad will it be?
We know the immediate environmental impact on marine life in the Gulf of Mexico is catastrophic. The economic impact on fishing and tourism maybe unrecoverable. Will the August relief drilling be successful? Or will the gushing leaks continue spewing until the massive reserves are exhausted? How much of the hidden oil will the oncoming hurricane season dump on coastal areas or further inland? And will the lingering toxic fumes make living in the Southern States a humanitarian crisis?
There are many speculative predictions circulating the internet: Will the vacuum created by the unchecked gusher swallow and heat seawater to create a tsunami that destroys the southern states? Will the massive quantities of methane hydrates cause further geological disruption and earthquakes? Will toxic dispersants evaporate and fall across north America in acid rain showers? Will this lead to the death of the worlds oceans and our ultimate extinction?
The truth is no one really knows.
First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This it right on the edge of what human technology can do. Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/209573-Mother-of-all-gushers-BP-Oil-Disaster-in-Gulf-of-Mexico-A-Timeline
I guess the truth is its a guess how bad it will become ultimately, but whats not a guess is that it is currently the worst in history, its location, pressure and depth mean its far, far beyond anything thats gone before, and no indication of when or how it can be stopped.0 -
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Sorry this may go against the grain here, but the "New Testament" was written a long time after Jesus's life, and 2nd hand accounts of what went before it was written and I believe it was plagiarised from other earlier Hebrew Books which have vanished/destroyed.
So, when you asked what was the original Hebrew version of this prophecy, you were actually asking what was the Hebrew word used in a long vanished/destroyed manuscript of which no evidence exists outside of your imagination.
And how did you think anyone was going to answer your question?
You are aware that most of our modern translations are based on Hebrew and Greek manuscripts that predate King James by well over 1000 years?King James destroyed how it was and should have remained, and to be honest the "True Religion Of God" (my opinion) doesn't exist anymore, there are truth's and lies mixed together in the Bible thanks to James, but I believe the truth is there for all to see.0 -
So, when you asked what was the original Hebrew version of this prophecy, you were actually asking what was the Hebrew word used in a long vanished/destroyed manuscript of which no evidence exists outside of your imagination. And how did you think anyone was going to answer your question?
"The unfolding of Your words gives light." Psalm 119:135
No evidence exists outside my imagination?, are you sure about that?, maybe you need to brush up on your knowledge before making such statements.
http://www.archive.org/stream/LostBooksOfTheBible/LostBooksOfTheBible_djvu.txtScholars know about the past existence of some missing gospels
because they are mentioned in other ancient writings that have survived.
Parts of some lost books were even copied into surviving writings, so that a
portion of their original content is still preserved.
In fact, people are often surprised to learn that parts of several lost
gospels may have been preserved in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. This
preserved material has been identified by certain characteristics which
indicate that it was copied from other writings. Thus the authors of the New
Testament gospels apparently got some of their information from earlier
writings. Modern scholars call these earlier writings "sources", and have
determined that there were probably three of them. But apparently all of them have disappeared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeptuagintThe Septuagint (pronounced /ˈsɛptʊ.ədʒɪnt/), or simply "LXX", referred to in critical works by the abbreviation
,[1] is the Koine Greek version of the Hebrew Bible, translated in stages between the 3rd and 2nd Centuries BC in Alexandria.[2] It was begun by the third century BC and completed before 132 BC.[3]
It is the oldest of several ancient translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, lingua franca of the eastern Mediterranean Basin from the time of Alexander the Great (356-323 BC).While many in modern times still feel that the evidence supports the traditional view of authorship, others question the traditional position, some suggesting that John the Apostle, John the Evangelist and John of Patmos were three separate individuals. More recent methods of scholarship, such as textual criticism, have been influential in this conclusion. Differences in style between the Gospel of John, the epistles of John, and the Revelation are seen by some scholars as indicating three separate authors. For example, the author of Revelation identifies himself as "John" several times, but the author of the Gospel of John never identifies himself directly (though there is an indirect identification [Jn 21:20-24]). While both works liken Jesus to a lamb, they consistently use different words for lamb when referring to him—the Gospel uses amnos, Revelation uses arnion.[15] Pointing out differences in style, theological content, and familiarity with Greek, Bart D. Ehrman wrote that "it can be stated without reservation that whoever wrote the Gospel did not write this book"
It has also been contended that the core verses of the book (Revelations), in general chapters 4 through 22, are surviving records of the prophecies of John the Baptist.[22] In this view, the Lamb of God references and other hallmarks of Revelation are linked to what is known of John the Baptist, though it must be confessed that very little is known of him..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_of_John
Revelation: A Hebrew Book
Read all about it here:The religion, traditions and concepts of the New Testament are thoroughly Hebrew.
The third evidence of a Hebrew text is that sometimes taking the Greek literally results in a clumsy English translation or a sentence may even fail to make sense. However, the verse makes perfect sense when translated back into Hebrew. For example, in 10:1 an angel is described with feet like pillars. However, feet cannot be “like pillars,” only legs can. The problem is resolved by recognizing that while Greek has separate words for “feet” and “legs” Hebrew has only one word that can mean both. Apparently, a Greek translator unacquainted with Hebrew nuances translated the Hebrew word as “feet” when the intention was “legs.”
http://www.blainerobison.com/endtimes/rev-hebrew.htmYou are aware that most of our modern translations are based on Hebrew and Greek manuscripts that predate King James by well over 1000 years?
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Shouldn't you all be researching for links that will prove 21/12/2012 is going to be a direct consequence of the BP oil spill as predicted in Ezekiel 23:20 instead of talking about red waters linking to revelation when oil is actually black...?
I don't even think the bible code could predict some of the things we've read here in this thread, yet: here it is...
I can't resist, how does all this eschatological prophesizing explain the end of existence for all of the planets in the universe?
Is this theorizing, again, just confined to the flat earth that these prophets, in all of their glory, assumed was what the universe consisted of at the time?
Does your literature take into account black hole's as part of the setting for all of these vuvuzela-led deathwishes we're reading here or did that little one slip by?
I have to wonder, do the earth's plate's, after being expelled by the magma that pushed them out into space because this red oil went on fire, suddenly start hitting
other planets, space invaders style, and knocking them out one by one or is there a biblical quote you can use to tell us how the BP spill will cause Canis V Majoris to end along with all of existence?
I don't know, maybe if I start going to church again, as one poster was quick to remind, it will somehow send magnetic attractions to the red oil to flow away from the magma, or mabe the vuvuzela ban will end it, who knows - I'm sure we'll find out soon
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sponsoredwalk wrote: »Shouldn't you all be researching for links that will prove 21/12/2012 is going to be a direct consequence of the BP oil spill as predicted in Ezekiel 23:20 instead of talking about red waters linking to revelation when oil is actually black...?
I don't even think the bible code could predict some of the things we've read here in this thread, yet: here it is...
I can't resist, how does all this eschatological prophesizing explain the end of existence for all of the planets in the universe?
Is this theorizing, again, just confined to the flat earth that these prophets, in all of their glory, assumed was what the universe consisted of at the time?
Does your literature take into account black hole's as part of the setting for all of these vuvuzela-led deathwishes we're reading here or did that little one slip by?
I have to wonder, do the earth's plate's, after being expelled by the magma that pushed them out into space because this red oil went on fire, suddenly start hitting
other planets, space invaders style, and knocking them out one by one or is there a biblical quote you can use to tell us how the BP spill will cause Canis V Majoris to end along with all of existence?
I don't know, maybe if I start going to church again, as one poster was quick to remind, it will somehow send magnetic attractions to the red oil to flow away from the magma, or mabe the vuvuzela ban will end it, who knows - I'm sure we'll find out soon
I'd suggest sticking to the sponsored walks or else know what your talking about before posting nonsense, maybe go back over the thread and click links etc before telling us oil is black, well it is normally, but there are 2 links I posted here about the "RED OIL" and how it has the "experts" puzzled or as suggested above watch the video.
Oh and the END is not the end, it's the beginning.0 -
sponsoredwalk wrote: »as predicted in Ezekiel 23:20 instead ofStealthRolex wrote: »Ezekiel 23:20 (New International Version)
20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
maybe you meant a different version?
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