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Revelation 8:8,9 and the Gulf oil spill.
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Fanny Cradock wrote: »You weren't getting criticised, you were receiving your one and only warning. Be nice.
When you take into consideration what we've just read you'll realise that I was being nice. I have completely held back the furious rhetorical anger I could wager using philosophical arguments - but that would most certainly mean nothing to a person who blithely attempts to use ancient/monolithic scripture to condemn/belittle millions of people.
No, I've merely used his own words, as it were, to show him how foolish his attempt at hatred & condemnation of the backwards, unenlightened people of the world who choose polygamy instead of the approvable Western monogamy :rolleyes:Those caught up in such relationships are to be taken as they are, but not so that we approve the arrangement.
This kind of a claim, with or without biblical mandate, is what should be corrected & challenged. This is most certainly not a nice thing to say, especially when you lie about your sources - i.e. stating your sources dictate X when in fact ~X is the case.(~X = the negative of X
)There's nothing wrong with challenging someone who lies to condemn human beings, I think you can understand that is a fair statement to make. I would be nicer if this were a trivial issue but this is the kind of action we see all too often, namely the invocation of scriptural doctrine to condemn a class of people for being different.
There is no room for being nice with this kind of foolishness, that is all I've said here & I don't think that's insulting or mean.0 -
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The Mad Hatter wrote: »Bit of a change from
It ain't over till the fat lady sings, I still don't believe they will stop it.
And what I meant from that statement I still hold, really I am p!ssed off with how this corrupt evil world is, it's a disgrace, total destruction the only solution, then start afresh, the new world where lion and lamb sit side by side, no more hurt or pain, imagine that, even if I'm not part of it, I still wish it come soon.
Many would suffer and die, and these must come to pass, but it's only temporary and small in the whole scheme of things. Theres a big reward at the end, much more than silver and gold.
But were not out of the woods yet with this oil leak, what was good news seems to be turning bad,
what they are not saying outright is that if they cap it the oil has found other exit points through the seabed from a lower/deeper leak in the well structure,
and the pressure figures they're talking about are well below the accepted psi of the leak, they are hoping for 9,000 psi pressure in the cap to prove all is well, they can't get that as there must be other leaks reducing the pressure, and if total pressure from this leak is 9,000 psi, well then they(unified command:rolleyes:) are the most incompetent idiots, 9,000 psi would have been capped in a matter of hours.
Also this capping may be slowly fragmenting the seabed with oil forcing its way up through it, but we'll have to wait and see
Thats why they are saying they may need to open the well back up and allow flow.
Heres a page with video's apparently showing oil leaking from the seabed after the historic capping that made everybody feel great, could be the calm before the storm.
Well Integrity Test Pressure May Indicate Leaks Below BP Gulf Oil Spill Sea Floor
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2010/07/15/intergity-test-pressure-leaks-bp-gulf-oil-spill-sea-floor/
One of the video's.
And remeber little leaks grow, remind me of the dutch boy who put his finger in the dike, Hans Brinker:The boy understood the danger at a glance. That little hole, if the water were allowed to trickle through, would soon be a large one, and a terrible inundation would be the result.
And to be honest I posted here for a friendly discussion (for some strange reason I assumed people here maybe pondered Bible prophecy from time to time and I pointed out some similarities and possible end results, that havent yet gone away), but almost immediately a barage of posts I wouldn't consider friendly came flooding in to belittle my post, and I replied in kind.
I could have replied to PDN's last post but thought "why?", for confrontation?, I'll be happy to express my views on another thread concerning hebrew/greek texts, lost and destroyed books, plaguarism and other issues I have with them, and clarify exactly my point and explain my concerns that I believe God fearing soul's blindly follow false paths in ALL religions, but as I said thats another thread.0 -
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Be truly glad. There is wonderful joy ahead!" - I Peter 1:6
BP: No sign of leaks as capped well nears 48 hours
With the cap working like a giant cork, scientists kept watch in case the buildup of pressure underground caused new leaks.
Pressure readings after 41 hours were 6,745 pounds per square inch and rising slowly, Wells said, below the 7,500 psi that would have reassured scientists the well was not leaking. He said pressure continued to rise by around 2 psi per hour, compared to a range between 2 and 10 psi BP and the government provided late Friday. A low pressure reading, or a falling one, could mean the oil is escaping.
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Psalm 118:24 -
"This is the day the LORD has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it."
Nehemiah 8:10 - "Nehemiah said, 'Go and enjoy choice food and sweet drinks, and send some to those who have nothing prepared. This day is sacred to our Lord. Do not grieve, for the joyofthe LORD is your strength.'"
Matthew 25: 21 - "The master was full of praise. ‘Well done, my good and faithful servant. You have been faithful in handling this small amount, so now I will give you many more responsibilities. Let’s celebrate together!"
See you guys around 18th December 2012
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chozometroid wrote: »Here is what you should be paying attention to: (from CNN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpJBsjKhRTo
Did you not hear, They revoked the ban, allowing credentialed reporters
to cover the area.
P.S. I don't think anyone who wrote the bible knew what an oblate sphere was & how that would even relate to the earth, nevermind that the earth wasn't flat 0 -
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Thanks.sponsoredwalk wrote: »Did you not hear, They revoked the ban, allowing credentialed reporters
to cover the area.
P.S. I don't think anyone who wrote the bible knew what an oblate sphere was & how that would even relate to the earth, nevermind that the earth wasn't flat0 -
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Seem's there some seepage from the ocean floor in the area, but of course it's NATURAL, there is a sense of surprise around these "NEW" found leaks in the seabed, these have been reported for months, it was the worst kept secret.
Ok they capped the leak, everybody was happy, they forgot to tell the general public a few things, now thad allen wants it uncapped, because he is afraid of pressure build up, and seepage a couple of miles away in the sea floor.
Now here's the problem with their new relief wells and trying to block it, the pressure will just build up, the rock between the oil and methane and the seafloor isn't as strong as it was before the bubble was ruptured, a timebomb.Seepages near the leaking BP oil well 'may be natural'
Seepages on the sea floor near the leaking Gulf of Mexico oil well may be unrelated to the well itself, the government's incident commander says.
Adm Thad Allen said there were concerns over three areas of "anomaly" during monitoring for a pressure test on the well.
The well has been capped to see if the flow of oil can be stopped without provoking leaks in the sea bed.
BP wants to keep the valves on the cap closed until an operation to permanently seal the well can be performed - a procedure the company expects will take place in less than two weeks.
But Adm Allen is not convinced the oil giant should leave the cap in place until the well is permanently plugged.
"I'm not prepared to say the well is shut in until the relief well is done. There are too many uncertainties," he said.
The US government has told the company to be ready to remove the machinery immediately if the seepage is confirmed to be methane.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10692360OIL BE BACK!
BP is facing a new crisis over claims that oil is leaking from ANOTHER spot in the Gulf of Mexico.
US authorities said they had detected a "seepage" close to the ruptured well that BP capped last Thursday.
They fear it is being caused by pressure building up beneath the seabed.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/Green/3060816/BP-faces-fresh-seepage-crisis.html#ixzz0uBQ1RFGPThe company was yesterday told by the US authorities that it would be allowed to keep the experimental cap on its blown-out well for a fourth successive day despite signs of seepage after it promised to closely monitor the surrounding seabed to head off a potentially devastating new leak of oil and gas.
Although the device has staunched the flow of oil since it was first put into operation last Thursday, unexpectedly low pressure readings inside the damaged well suggested oil and gas might be leaking out elsewhere, raising the spectre of an even more uncontrollable spill.
It was still unclear last night how long the cap – the first real piece of good news for Gulf businesses, residents and wild life since the 20 April blow-out – would stay in place. "Clearly, we want this to end," Carole Browner, the White House's top energy policy adviser, said. "But we don't want to enter into a situation where we have uncontrolled leaks all over the Gulf floor."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/as-cameron-flies-in-us-declares-ceasefire-with-bp-ndash-for-the-time-being-2030344.htmlWashington Post Reported In May That Gulf Seabed Was Fractured!
http://stevenjohnhibbs.wordpress.com/2010/07/15/washington-post-reported-in-may-that-gulf-seabed-was-fractured/
A few days ago, all was well:
Then things take a turn for the worse:Thad Allen: Leak Discovered in Gulf Oil Cap, Ground Seepage For Miles Around Not a Problem
Some news breaking out now.....BP oil admits to Gas & Oil leaking from ocean floor 7km away from Drill well site,
On French station RDI,twice so far this evening they have mentioned how there's a major leak in the ocean floor and how it will decades for the Gulf to become pristine again.Gulf Oil Spill: Government Fears New Well Leak, Might Remove the CapWatch this from 5:45 if nothing else, what she just said would be a "Catastrophic Situation" is exactly whats happening now.
Nobody can control or do squat diddly about these seepages that has made its way through small cracks created bt BP, that will continue to grow and erode the rock until it cannot hold back the pressure below.
This is worse than this bad memory from this psychopath idiot.
Bush declares victory in Iraq
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Seem's there some seepage from the ocean floor in the area, but of course it's NATURAL, there is a sense of surprise around these "NEW" found leaks in the seabed, these have been reported for months, it was the worst kept secret..
You can appreciate the problem many Christians (never mind anyone else
) might have believing that this spill is a sign of end times. Afterall, world events have been shoe-horned into the undeniably pictorial language of prophetical biblical passages on the subject since, well since time almost immemorial.
My question is how it is that you yourself give credence to the idea - given that all previous (and failed) incumbants could rationalise things in the same way that you appear to. Is there any difference between the core argument used by yourself (interpretation of world events w.r.t. biblical passages) and that of all your failed predecessors?0 -
antiskeptic wrote: »You can appreciate the problem many Christians (never mind anyone else) might have believing that this spill is a sign of end times. Afterall, world events have been shoe-horned into the undeniably pictorial language of prophetical biblical passages on the subject since, well since time almost immemorial.
My question is how it is that you yourself give credence to the idea - given that all previous (and failed) incumbants could rationalise things in the same way that you appear to. Is there any difference between the core argument used by yourself (interpretation of world events w.r.t. biblical passages) and that of all your failed predecessors?
I'm not trying to be a Prophet here, or attempting to predict the future.
I'm simply stating how it is at this moment in time, you seem to be in the "They will stop this" camp, I'm in the "I don't think they can stop it", and if you actually looked into the complexity of the problem and stopped relying on Thad Allen and co you may start to think a little different.
There is a "shock" in the media that the capping doesn't seem to be solving the problem because of oil forcing its way through the now deteriorating rockbed, it was mentioned in my OP and has been widely known in certain sections of the media, the big names in media seem to be catching up now, because they can't hide the fact's.0 -
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Maybe I'm just being optimistic that the end is nigh, but so many things are moving into place at the same time.Yes I'm hoping a new world will begin asap, sooner the better.
Unfortunately you're optimism was misplaced, billions of people didn't die in
the end - sorry about that man maybe next time you're dreams
will come true :rolleyes:
The "possibly" card you were pulling throughout the thread as you layed on
extremely dense posts spouting hearsay was a wise move an eschatologists favourite word.
I have only come back to this post to ask you whether you'd consider
putting an end to all of this religious eschatology, it's been shown to
be wrong & grossly vague year in, year out but still we have to put up
with it. The posts you were giving us were laced with fear & hype
& this is standard practice - yet it's always wrong. Maybe you need
to think critically about all of these things before getting swept up
in the hype & irrational fear.
You know very well what you're doing when you are putting in
huge bold letters the word nuke and you know what kind
of a mindgame technique you're trying to employ, I have to wonder
whether it's a willing depection or that you're just trying to joke
because it's really an attempt to stir fear in the reader & have them agree
with your unfounded almost-assertions.e.g. Revelation 16:3 - And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and itThe many "could's" I've read almost convince me that you're not trying to
became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
beside a picture of a few fish that died, "hey, maybe it is prophecy!" :rolleyes:
The implication of putting this beside a picture of the fish is not a "maybe"
it's as if you're claiming that this will all happen due to prophecy,
well it didn't & Revelation 16.3 certainly has no maybe in there...
trick people but actually believe this so I'll just say to you to be careful,
you could get tricked into believing anything if it could be possible,
just don't fall for the hearsay of people - especially Russian scientists
that nuked the sea when it's an American situation we're dealing with...An example of a personal test you could give yourself would be to read the many
online blogs about 21/12/2012 & immerse yourself in the nonsense. See how
much of it seems convincing - I bet a lot of it will.
They employ a lot of the writing techniques we've seen you employ too
& I bet it'll freak you out when you notice it.
Then, go and read the counter-arguments against the crazy - it's a test...I'd suggest sticking to the sponsored walks or else know what your talking about before posting nonsense,
/goes back to the sponsored walks awaiting the end - it's nigh...
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