Germany v England, Sunday 3pm

Jigga

Germany weren't great tonight but still have impressed far more than England, should be an interesting game.

Deutschland vor!

conno16

so england will prob crash out again to the germans
this will be devastating for english football

it should be the glamour tie of the 2nd round though
rooney needs to pull up his socks

Kev_ps3

Germany to go through on penos:)

Melion

I think England will go through, possibly AET

Morzadec

Can't wait for it. It will be entertaining whatever happens.

England seriously need to up their game to stand a chance.

baldbear

Can't wait. hope we won't be seeing stupid headlines such as
"Achtung! Surrender! For You Fritz, ze Euro 96 Championship is over" from those rag papers!!!

df1985

based on the group games id fancy germany, but if theres one team to wake up the english itd be the germans.

_Bella_

I'd back Germany... but it will be tight.

DubDani

That's the game where the WC really starts for me, that's what I want to see.

mike65

Dur-du-da-da,
dur-du-da-da
de da
de da
de dah!

etc

Inquitus

England have been pure muck, the Germans have been a fair bit better, hard to see anything but a German win unless England find the other gear we know they have.

redout

England will need a serious improvement to beat Germany is my first impression.

Germany havent looked bad in this tournament.

Even playing with one man less for 60mins against Serbia they still were the better team.

Jax Teller

should be good game , be interesting to see what team england pick and if schweinsteiger makes it .

Gillington

Wow.Even The Sun havent started writing about this game yet! Thumbs up Boards!

Gang of Gin

DubDani wrote: »

That's the game where the WC really starts for me, that's what I want to see.

Or going to the WC - when down the pub:pac:

Hoki

redout wrote: »

England will need a serious improvement to beat Germany is my first impression.

Germany havent looked bad in this tournament.

Even playing with one man for 60mins against Serbia they still were the better team.

Ah they had more than one now

Peyton Manning

lol @ Kevin Keegan

"Germany have shown a high level, we havent played at that level yet, so yes we can win"

conno16

if england get thru this i predict they will win the WC

sir john terry etc

mike65

Keegan on form!

Anyway here is the secret to Englands future success. Hic!

namloc1980

conno16 wrote: »

if england get thru this i predict they will win the WC

sir john terry etc

Nah they would then most likely have Argentina in the q-final. England v Argentina in a World Cup Quarter Final....now where have I seen that before?!

mike65

Flips sake lads you're late

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055948911

Gang of Gin

Hoki wrote: »

Ah they had more than one now

The Sparrow

How will England cope with Ozil?

That to me is the key question. Barry will have to stop him playing and I don't think he will be able to. Therefore, I'm backing Germany.

But it will be very tight. Could go to penos :pac:

Handsome Bob

Judging on the group stages, you'd have to favour Germany. England haven't impressed me at all bar for a segment of the first half today.

conno16

this version is for intellectual debate

the other is for mindless predictions, cheap shots at lamps, cashley and jt

Morzadec

mike65 wrote: »

Flips sake lads you're late

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055948911

Both posted at 21.21 so this might've been the 1st one no?

Peyton Manning

conno16 wrote: »

this version is for intellectual debate

That's like Karl Pilkington starting a thread on the meaning of life.

Royale with Cheese

Germany were impressive against Australia (who ended up not losing another game in the tournament). They actually played quite well against Serbia but were undone by some terrible refereeing, bad luck, and Lukas Podolski having a bit of a nightmare in front of goal. Tonight they weren't great, particularly at the back, but did enough to grind out the win they needed.

England were crap against USA. Crap against Algeria. Decent for the first half against Slovenia today, but not great again in the second.

I guess that points to a German win, but it's very close to call. England certainly need to step up a gear though.

McGrath5

This thread is going to get messy Any news on the German player's who seem doubtful for sunday?

sky88

if this match doesnt end with penalties ill be so dissapointed

Gang of Gin

I'd have to go for Germany.
Schweinsteiger and Ozil will give them problems from midfield. Klose is back too. Can be very effective, but maybe his effect is ephemeral.

If England continue with Barry they will be found out - he was a disaster today. They'll be up for it, but I don't think they have anything this World Cup. They've shown me nothing.

mike65

Hopefully this will just be the play-pen warm-up for the game and we'll have a fresh thread on matchday. (this'll prolly get locked anyway!)

BraziliaNZ

There's no doubt this will awaken the bulldog spirit etc. I think if England play well they can beat these Gerrys, although the return of Klose might help them up front, I don't rate that Kakau bloke.

Looking forward to/dreading the Sun and English hype.

conno16

England 2 Germany 0

terry, gerrard

The_Kew_Tour

conno16 wrote: »

England 2 Germany 0

terry, gerrard

Its not on till sunday:p:p

Gang of Gin

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

There's no doubt this will awaken the bulldog spirit etc. I think if England play well they can beat these Gerrys, although the return of Klose might help them up front, I don't rate that Kakau bloke.

Looking forward to/dreading the Sun and English hype.

And your location is the other side?

_Bella_

Barry gave the ball away a few times stupidly as did the back line, they will be punished by Germany. The lack of pace of Carragher and Terry will play a huge factor, to Germany's advantage. If Rooney can play his usual standard for Man Utd then the German defence will have trouble. Neither of Germanys choices for left back are strong and they could definitely be exploited by Milner and Johnson linking up as they did. Defoe is quite small so he wont win many balls in the air. If James makes any mistakes you can bet Klose will take advantage.

I think Germany will win, but England could win it if they make a vast improvement.

Edit: Scary stat for England: The last time Germany got knocked out of World Cup Finals before the quarter-finals was 1938

Morzadec

Germany 7/4 in 90 minutes... Seems very attractive to me

newballsplease

come on ze Germans

redout

Morzadec wrote: »

Germany 7/4 in 90 minutes... Seems very attractive to me

Shambolic to be honest.

England are virtually the same.

DazMarz

2 WORLD WARS AND 1 WORLD CUP!!!!:o;)

Come on the England!!!

That's the heart finished talking... now the head will take over:

It will be a tight, tight game. Despite Germany's trouncing of Australia and that 4-0 notwithstanding, neither side have been thoroughly impressive, but the Germans have shown great measures of class and I do think they were misfortunate against Serbia.

England have not been good at all, and even today (with a much better performance) they were not dominant over a very poor Slovenia.

It will be a tight game as England's heads will be up more, the Germans will also be spoiling for this game. 2-1 either way, IMO.

If it goes to penos tho, the Germans are a model.

KungPao

The Sun - "IT'S GERM WARFARE!"

Oh dear.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/worldcup2010/3026341/Ghana-0-Germany-1.html

Fiskar

Expect the Germans to prevail on Sunday having played the better football and better opposition in the group stage. They are also not shy of goals and can only get better.
England have been hugely disappointing and need to be put of their misery before they bring down the whole tournament. FFS, can you see them doing anything against Argentina.

Boskowski

Perfect Choice wrote: »

This thread is going to get messy

ye I think I'm going to stay away from this one. Four days of prematch banter will earn me a permaban at some stage me thinks

fryup

playing germany will actually suit england's style, breaking up play and hitting a team on the counter-attack

i really do fancy england's chances, must go down to the bookies first thing tommorow

SlickRic

England have to improve 10-fold.

Ozil will give them nightmares.

Lahm, if played at left-full will give Johnson a massive headache; Milner will be pushed back as a result.

the only chance England have is if Germany aren't clinical.

i expect Germany to have more chances throughout the game; it's whether they take enough of them.

all the same; fascinating match, and that's even without the history.

Bodhisopha

I predict a comfortable win for Germany. A goal per half; 2-0.

Fiskar

Clashes with a rather large GAA match between Dubby land and the Royals, going to be a choosey afternoon but will watch the beautiful game

Kiwi_knock

Going to be a hard one to predict, we know what Germany can do when at their best but England have not once been close to their best. If England start playing to their ability it will be a close match. Germany should edge it but it really could go either way.

Le King

Football wins if Germany wins. I want the Germans to go far. Good football side. Watching England is boring.


Rooney off form=England don't have much of a chance IMO.

fryup

rooney couldn't score in a brothel at the mo

(maybe thats where he wants to be)