Germany v England, Sunday 3pm

Leiva

Capello talking about why we still have no 5th Ref .

Sepp Blatter seen running from stadium at 89th minute .

Raskolnikov

df1985 wrote: »

shut up gabby logan

When did Frank Lampard score?

Kev_ps3

Cappello: "we play well":rolleyes::D

Mr.Nice Guy

John Giles was right. Gabby Logan is awful. I wonder if RTE will broadcast this?

ragg

fullstop wrote: »

Who said he should be ripping the piss about them FFS? He was nearly in tears after the 4th goal by the sounds of him.

Does that make him less Irish??

Balmed Out

England whenever in this tournament the opposition has the ball they just never looked like they gave a fiddlers fart in geting it back. Cant understand.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ragg wrote: »

Obviously not, but i think they really believed the shíté they were talking before the match. They did think that germans were a poor side and they would win it comfortably

Don't have the beefits of UK media - can you tell me what exactly was said?

everdead.ie

Lampard was very disappointing and Milner was better when he was on the wing but he kept coming inside and Barry wasn't good enough he wasn't the worst but he wasn't good

_Kaiser_

antodeco wrote: »

Ah Capello. He is very, very disillusioned

He'll be gone within a fortnight I reckon..

Bob the Seducer

Rooney has played like a player struggling for form and fitness, just back from injury after carrying United for large parts of the season.

Blazer

ragg wrote: »

Is the germans team success a direct result of a domestic league, where the best players are all german?

Makes sense...plus their youth system concentrates on technical ability as well...really emphasises that...

briany

Oh my god Capello is entirely dumbfounded. "Why do you think the players didn't perform?" Capello: "...................................I think they play well."

SuperInfinity

antodeco wrote: »

In fairness, the BBC guys are saying England played badly, very poor...

Yes they are. The ONLY time they went crazy with accolades was when England gave Slovenia a massive 1-0 beating.

I can't believe that guy on RTE is saying: "we'd never know what would happen if they gave that second goal" and that "hurr I can guess the newspapers tomorrow will be saying they were robbed".

They will NOT be saying England were robbed, that's ridiculous. 3-1? Maybe they MIGHT be saying things like that, but NOT with 4-1. Psychology is WAYYYYY too much overhyped, no matter what the score is they're going to basically play the same way. They're professional footballers, not babies. They'll try the same things and play the same way apart from maybe pushing forward more no matter what the score is.

England's defence today was sunday league stuff at times, Germany outclassed them in every way. They just looked soooooo slow and inept, particularly when Germany got a counterattack going.

bad2dabone

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Cappello: "we play well":rolleyes::D

The more i see of Capello the more I think he's a spoofer and a fraud.

Doodee

The main difference between the England and Germany teams is that the Germans play well together and want to win. Even in the game they lost they always looked likethey were going to score.

England have been pure muck, the only players that did anything credible were Milner, Defoe and Gerrard. They are a bunch of tabloid players not a team.

Ozil is gonna be a big name after the tournament, signed for 6mill but now worth the same as the Milner figures id say. Same goes for Muller.

dubmick

Hansen said they were lucky that it was only four

Actual quote: "Fabio might struggle with his English, but he knows he's just said England played well and they didn't - they were hammered. The bottom line is they are lucky it was only four."

ragg

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Don't have the beefits of UK media - can you tell me what exactly was said?

Now? Or pre game?

Now - they are gutted

Pre game - they were saying that the germans were poor and that they were very beatable, inexperienced etc....

Lukker-

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

John Giles was right. Gabby Logan is awful. I wonder if RTE will broadcast this?

In fairness they are she is just saying what the English want to hear. RTÉ do the exact same, all polularist BS tbh.

Mr Alan

briany wrote: »

Oh my god Capello is entirely dumbfounded. "Why do you think the players didn't perform?" Capello: "...................................I think they play well."

In fairness to him, his english is really poor and he said said when they went 2-1, 2-2 they played well, which they did, he then said when the conceded the third their heads went down.

fullstop

ragg wrote: »

Does that make him less Irish??

Yes :rolleyes:

_Kaiser_

bad2dabone wrote: »

The more i see of Capello the more I think he's a spoofer and a fraud.

Well he should have gotten a lot more out the players. Rooney never made any real impact, and who brings Heskey on when you're 3-1 down???

gandalf

England were dreadful. Given the players they have they never seem to be able to gel as a team. Capello has been a sham of a manager and really should be told to resign after this pathetic showing at the World Cup.

FUNKY LOVER

well i got shot down in this thread for suggesting terry and rooney aint world class.

people need to take the premierleague blinkers off.

_Bella_

They are right Terry should never have played on the right

blueser

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

He'll be gone within a fortnight I reckon..

He's history. And he probably knows it. The rumour was that the FA expected him to resign if England didn't get out of the group. I can't imagine that one truly awful performance later will dramatically alter anything. Speaking as an Englishman, I wouldn't mind seeing harry Redknapp getting the job. He seems to get the best out of his teams. Wouldn't be too sure about Hodgson.

FUNKY LOVER

gandalf wrote: »

England were dreadful. Given the players they have they never seem to be able to gel as a team. Capello has been a sham of a manager and really should be told to resign after this pathetic showing at the World Cup.

they dont have great players,its the media and temas like hull and stoke making them look good.

bUILDERtHEbOB

bad2dabone wrote: »

The more i see of Capello the more I think he's a spoofer and a fraud.

Milan
Serie A (4): 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96
Supercoppa Italiana (3): 1992, 1993, 1994
UEFA Champions League (1): 1993–94
European Super Cup (1): 1994

Roma
Serie A (1): 2000–01
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2001

Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 1996–97, 2006–07

Deffo.

super_furry

England are just a very poor team made with some good players who only play for themselves. The shockingly poor defence aside, Gerrard, Rooney and Lampard are all trying to be the superstars, not trusting their teammates. England are not a team.

adox

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

well i got shot down in this thread for suggesting terry and rooney aint world class.

people need to take the premierleague blinkers off.

And their champions league blinkers too?

Cop on.

DB10

At least BBC are being real with their analysis, going against Capellos pathetic interview as well.

The problem is as usual, they hype up the players over an average 1-0 win over Slovenia and are now dumbfounded about this result.

In all 4 games so far England were absolutely shocking.

copacetic

SuperInfinity wrote: »

They will NOT be saying England were robbed, that's ridiculous. 3-1? Maybe they MIGHT be saying things like that, but NOT with 4-1. Psychology is WAYYYYY too much overhyped, no matter what the score is they're going to basically play the same way. They're professional footballers, not babies. They'll try the same things and play the same way apart from maybe pushing forward more no matter what the score is. .

Thats absolute unadulterated rubbish. There is no doubt that the win for Germany was well deserved, but their 3rd and 4th goals came from counter attacks when England had pushed too many men forward. It's very doubtful either goal would have come about in the same way if it was 2-2.

Drumpot

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

well i got shot down in this thread for suggesting terry and rooney aint world class.

people need to take the premierleague blinkers off.

Rooney isnt world class . . Yes, if you started watching football for the first time at the start of this month, I agree, he hasnt been world class . . :rolleyes:

SarahBM

Sack Capello and get in Harry Redknapp

ciaran76

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

Franks for nothing !!!!

Nalz

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

England to come back and win, mark my words.

I marked them with a bookmark . God they were awful. Barry, Rooney, Johnson and Terry were muck

PHB

Capello has to resign imo. He couldnt find a system that got the best out of his players. Now, lets not coddle this, a fit Ferdinand and Hargreaves and England could have been much better, and he was unlucky with King, but frankly, I think his team selection and his formation selection has been perplexing, especially considering that they havent gotten the results. Capello is a world class manager, but he isnt cut out for international football where you have a set of players and thats it.

Rooney works best for United as a lone front man, but he can work in a 2 man system.
Lampard and Gerrard both play in the same position for their clubs, at the front of a midfield 3.

What system does he choose to play? 2 up front, Lampard out of position, Gerrard out of position. Same thing has last time, he didn't have the balls to drop one of Lampard or Gerrard. They can't play together. This time it wasnt in central midfield that they couldnt, but its the same every time.

Lampard is 32 now. His international career is over. Gerrard is going to be 34 by the next world cup, too old. The problem has now sorted itself out. England can now move past this Gerrard Lampard problem, and move onto the next tournament.

ragg

fullstop wrote: »

Yes :rolleyes:

I really feel sorry for anyone that genuinely believes this.

DB10

Bob the Seducer wrote: »

Islamic Republic of Afghanistan?

I'm sure they will be happy as well, their invaders have been knocked out...

dubmick

Capello 7/4 to go tonight

inforfun

bUILDERtHEbOB wrote: »

Milan
Serie A (4): 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96
Supercoppa Italiana (3): 1992, 1993, 1994
UEFA Champions League (1): 1993–94
European Super Cup (1): 1994

Roma
Serie A (1): 2000–01
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2001

Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 1996–97, 2006–07

Deffo.

You see a patern there? everything is 15/20 years ago.
Apart from Real 2007

Lukker-

copacetic wrote: »

Thats absolute unadulterated rubbish. There is no doubt that the win for Germany was well deserved, but their 3rd and 4th goals came from counter attacks when England had pushed too many men forward. It's very doubtful either goal would have come about in the same way if it was 2-2.

I agree, it'd would have been a completely different game. The English system isn't built around constant pressure. Anyway, I'm glad we can go back to just watching football and hopefully this media circus can go away.

x in the city

England, what do you expect with heskey in the team.

He must have touched the ball 10 times in the tournament.

They were outclassed. Argentina Germany will be a hell of a game, can we move into that folks.

cherryghost

dubmick wrote: »

Capello 7/4 to go tonight

Finally, a safe bet!

PHB

Rooney was poor this world cup, so was Lampard. But they were both utterly world class for their teams this year, which can't be said for the rest of the England players, bar Cole.

Lampard deserved his goal, and frankly, has been utterly wasted in his England career.

Bob the Seducer

At least the England 5 Germany 1 song should be consigned to history now.

FUNKY LOVER

adox wrote: »

And their champions league blinkers too?

Cop on.

oh did john terry win the champions league i must have missed that?

Degag

Did Capello actually just say that England played well???!!!!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

ragg wrote: »

Now? Or pre game?

Now - they are gutted

Pre game - they were saying that the germans were poor and that they were very beatable, inexperienced etc....

Sorry, but not on the BBC website they weren't. The occasional SMS and that's it. They seem to be of the opinion that the team underperformed in the groups stages, and there was no reason to expect anything different. What;s your source?

super_furry

Calling it now Mike Bassett Harry Redknapp, England Manager.

adox

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

oh did john terry win the champions league i must have missed that?

Emm...... Has played in the champions league