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Black Gold BGT3595 Now Available (Dual DVB-S2 + DVB-T + Analogue)

  • 25-06-2010 1:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭


    Available for order that is, shipping week closing 12th July.

    http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf/en_AU/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Products/BGT3595

    167 inc vat and delivery to Ireland.
    It says OEM only but it went into the cart for me (didn't order though).
    BGT3595 Premium multi-tuner PCI express X1 dual digital satellite DVB-S2, dual digital terrestrial DVB-T, world standard analogue terrestrial product

    The BGT3595 is designed to transform a personal computer to a high-end audio video entertainment system supporting multiple external video streams and High Definition (HD) broadcast streams. (Worldwide DVB-S, S2 and DVB-T HD streams, not UK DVB-T2 HD)

    Hardware receiver support - Analogue terrestrial, dual digital satellite (DVB-S2) including DiSEqC2.0, dual digital terrestrial (DVB-T)

    Hardware External Video – Composite video CVBS, Separate-video, Component video YPbPr, Component video RGB

    Hardware remote – IR remote receiver, learning receiver, remote wake-up

    Hardware profile - Low profile solution supports half and full height PC systems.
    The perfect Windows 7, Vista & XP Media Center TV partner solution:
    1. 32 and 64 bit Broadcast Driver Architecture (BDA) drivers
    2. Windows 7 and TV pack 2008 Media Center satellite tuner support
    3. Media Center remote control support including S3 wakeup (option)
    4. External video equipment connection via adapter cable supporting Composite video - phono, S video - mini DIN, RGB – phonos and stereo audio – phonos


    Watch, record and pause multiple Freeview (DVB-T) TV, FreeSat (DVB-S) and Analogue channels SIMULTANEOUSLY with the optional BGT3560 Ultimate PVR application.

    http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Products/BGT3560

    The BDA driver supports multiple BGT3595 card installations.
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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Nice card, I've been waiting a good long while for these to appear . It was due to appear September/October of last year and then again at the start of this years so I'm not sure if that a good thing or a bad thing.

    I'll get one eventually but I'll wait for a another bit longer and check out the reviews for any problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    Have ordered one...lets hope it lives up to the specs...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    slegs wrote: »
    Have ordered one...lets hope it lives up to the specs...

    Be sure to let us know how you get on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    any indication that they will actually ship to retail on that day.
    ive been waiting a long time for these to be released and am ready to buy 2 once they ship and somebody provides evidence that they are as good as they seem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,031 ✭✭✭FrankGrimes


    Have been keeping an eye out for these for a while. Was hoping they'd be available when I was doing my latest rebuild but I had to opt for a Pinnacle 7010i (or is it 9010?).

    I have 2 x freeview satellite feeds and 2 x digital antennae feeds - is there any advantage this card will give me in the short term or is it more a case of it future proofing to support future formats and future Irish HD signals?

    My Pinnacle does a decent job but on some channels (e.g. ITV 4) I get a bit of pixelation every few seconds - would this card likely help with that (assuming reviews confirm if does what it says on the tin)?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Have been keeping an eye out for these for a while. Was hoping they'd be available when I was doing my latest rebuild but I had to opt for a Pinnacle 7010i (or is it 9010?).

    I have 2 x freeview satellite feeds and 2 x digital antennae feeds - is there any advantage this card will give me in the short term or is it more a case of it future proofing to support future formats and future Irish HD signals?

    My Pinnacle does a decent job but on some channels (e.g. ITV 4) I get a bit of pixelation every few seconds - would this card likely help with that (assuming reviews confirm if does what it says on the tin)?

    Hi Frank , In relation to Irish DTT viewing this card will offer nothing new over the 7010ix , both have DVB-T tuners.

    The BGT3595 main advantage is it can receive DVB-S2 sat signals. Currently BBC-HD and ITV1-HD are on a DVB-S signal and can be received by the 7010ix, but it's likely these channels will change to a DVB-S2 signal.

    I'm not sure when that change is going to happen but I've heard when BBC1-HD launches or some time after that but then again it could be a few years after this , I can't say for sure as I've not be following the subject.

    I doubt the pixelation you're getting is due to the card, it may be down to a weak signal on those particular channels (slight misalignment on the dish) or the codec you're using.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 martythespark


    just wanted to ask you guys if this card can be used with vmc with media pack update to receive 2 sat channels at once. Maybe a bit off topic but seems as good a place as any. Thanks. Cant wait to get rid of sky+ so we can watch 2 things at once via xbox 360.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Any update as to whether or not these are shipping to retail customers yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    gtg60 wrote: »
    Any update as to whether or not these are shipping to retail customers yet?

    Hi gtg60!

    I got notification that mine shipped but havent received it yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    slegs wrote: »
    Hi gtg60!

    I got notification that mine shipped but havent received it yet.

    That'd be great slegs! Currently have 2x DVB-S tuners, 1x DVB-S2 and 3 x DVB-T tuners in my setup so looking forward to the upgrade!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    OK got this during the week. It was in the post office for a couple of days!

    Physically Installed the card easy enough.

    The drivers werent automatically installed when Win 7 rebooted so I downloaded from the Blackgold site and manually chose the driver folder from device manager.

    The devices then installed OK and all looks good. Even rebooted to be sure

    Went into Media Centre directly and DVBLink (software for managing multiple cards towards Media Centre) but the card isnt recognised by either.

    Thought it would be picked up by Media centre at least without issue. I still have my dual DVB-S Pinncale installed also and this still works fine.

    Have dropped Blackgold a note to see what is next step.

    Would advise people to hold off until these become generally available as Blackgold are using this "OEM" period as a some kind of Beta field trial.

    Will let you know how I get on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    thats a shame, keep us up to date, will be buying a pair of these once the teething problems are solved


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    slegs wrote: »
    OK got this during the week. It was in the post office for a couple of days!

    Physically Installed the card easy enough.

    The drivers werent automatically installed when Win 7 rebooted so I downloaded from the Blackgold site and manually chose the driver folder from device manager.

    The devices then installed OK and all looks good. Even rebooted to be sure

    Went into Media Centre directly and DVBLink (software for managing multiple cards towards Media Centre) but the card isnt recognised by either.

    Thought it would be picked up by Media centre at least without issue. I still have my dual DVB-S Pinncale installed also and this still works fine.

    Have dropped Blackgold a note to see what is next step.

    Would advise people to hold off until these become generally available as Blackgold are using this "OEM" period as a some kind of Beta field trial.

    Will let you know how I get on.

    Apparently it needs a 4pin power connector to be used. See set-up manual - http://home.btconnect.com/blackgold/Downloads/BGT3595_Installation_Guide_1-0-0.pdf.

    There is an issue with DVB-S2 channels not being detected on one of the tuners but BG have acknowledged the issue and are working on it - http://shop.blackgold.tv/epages/BT3159.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Categories/Support/Product_Hot_Topics/BGT3595/DVBS2_Detection_issue.

    Some interesting reading from page 4 onwards on the avforum thread - http://www.avforums.com/forums/home-entertainment-pcs/1183026-latest-bgt3595-update-4.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    OK, didnt read the PDF about the power cable...will play around some more tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Interesting stuff, have heard on the DVBlink forum that there were issues with the second DVB-S2 tuner.

    Keep us informed, even though I'll probably end up getting one from the next batch anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    I see they're taking orders again, estimated delivery time is 14days, even if it only works as a dual DVB-T, DVB-S and DVB-S2 until they get the new drivers in order then it's still better than what I have at the moment!

    So, I ordered one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Lastest from the website re the second DVB-S2 tuner:
    w/c 30/08/10: We are now testing a new driver pack which addresses the above issue. We hope to release this very shortly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Got mine today, tested with new drivers, seems to be working fine, finds all channels on both tuners, great bit of kit for the money and looks absolutely tiny compared to my Pinnacle 7010!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    Thanks GTG..must try these new drivers with my card tonight as i previously couldnt get it recognised by Win MC or DVBLink even though the card was recognised by the OS (drivers seemed to install correctly)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    New drivers applied and my card is recognised! Now for some playing...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    Works like a dream with the new drivers. Can now recommend this card fully.

    Dual DVBS2 and Dual DVB-T for under 150eur - brilliant value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭sfag31


    thanks for the updates - does that mean the win 7 media center now recognises the card and works ok with it. ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    sfag31 wrote: »
    thanks for the updates - does that mean the win 7 media center now recognises the card and works ok with it. ?

    Isn't that what myself and slegs have written?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭sfag31


    gtg60 wrote: »
    Isn't that what myself and slegs have written?

    Note quite - you said "
    Got mine today, tested with new drivers, seems to be working fine, finds all channels on both tuners, great bit of kit for the money and looks absolutely tiny compared to my Pinnacle 7010!! "

    I wanted to make sure.
    I have past of experience of cards that are supposed to work with win 7 and even win 7 mce - and they the do former but not the latter.

    There is something else you might be able to help me with.
    I only have one pci-e slot - its currently taken up with a graphics card. I'd like to resort to the on board graphics and slot this new blackgold card into that sole pci-e slot - can you see any problems with that.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    Yes, card works with Win7 64bit MCE and I haven't heard anybody complain about issues with it not working in 32bit either.

    As long as your onboard graphics are powerful to cope with whatever you need then I see no problem, why did you add an external one anyway?

    There are only 2 issues with this card at the moment, one is slight fitment problems in certain cases if you use the half height bracket. The second is that nobody seems to know how to use the Analogue inputs yet but then this card hasn't started public shipping yet so I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

    Win7 has a bug handling dual tuners but have released a fix:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/981129

    Highly recommended card, probably buying a second one in the near future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    Does Windows 7 MCE support DVB-S2 natively ? If BBC-HD and ITV1-HD move to DVB-S2 will the only means of getting them on WIN7 MCE involve DVB-link ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭sfag31


    gtg60 wrote: »
    As long as your onboard graphics are powerful to cope with whatever you need then I see no problem, why did you add an external one anyway?

    .


    The external question: I held on to my old CRT TV for a long time. I only recently moved to a samsung LCD - 42 inch.
    The CRT picture was superior to any flat telly. Still is when watching football although my new flat tv is not too bad.
    Alas to connect my computer to it I had to add a card with tv-out.

    thanks for the other advice.
    I am gonna buy one of those cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭gtg60


    jobyrne30 wrote: »
    Does Windows 7 MCE support DVB-S2 natively ? If BBC-HD and ITV1-HD move to DVB-S2 will the only means of getting them on WIN7 MCE involve DVB-link ?

    Yes and MPEG4.

    You won't need DVBlink if they remain FTA which they will.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 DesG


    Anyone know if there are linux drivers for this card, I would love to put a couple of them in my system.

    Cheers, Des.


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