Christianity forum needs at least 1 Catholic mod!

Tom Dunne

smurfhousing wrote: »

There's nothing funny or shocking about it. Boards.ie is a hotbed of anti-Catholic hatred and vitriol. It is probably representative of Ireland at the moment, sadly. If boards.ie is trying to be representative, then perhaps they are doing a good job.:(

The site may not be anti-Catholic per se, but if it's a playground for anti-Catholics, in the absence of effective moderation, then one could conclude that the site itself is anti-Catholic.

No, but from my perspective what is funny is how predictable vested interests are. If a certain group of posters/members of a forum do not get their way, the site is biased against them.

Textbook stuff.

This thread has gone to four pages now and despite numerous requests, I have not been provided with direct links to comments that demonstrate any such bias. From that I can only conclude that the allegations of anti-Catholicism are without foundation.

vodafoneproblem

Tom Dunne wrote: »

No, but from my perspective what is funny is how predictable vested interests are. If a certain group of posters/members of a forum do not get their way, the site is biased against them.

Textbook stuff.

This thread has gone to four pages now and despite numerous requests, I have not been provided with direct links to comments that demonstrate any such bias. From that I can only conclude that the allegations of anti-Catholicism are without foundation.

See, the thing is, Tom, I didn't start this thread with the intention of getting the current mods in trouble, so I'm a bit reluctant to start direct linking loads of posts and going "look what he did there! And there! and there!". That said, I did give you two direct links - one to a post and one to the relevant page - that demonstrate a couple of the points I made. After that, the best thing for you to do is read the Catholic/Protestant thread so you can see where I'm coming from. If you're not going to do that, then fine, but you can't reasonably say what I said is without foundation if you don't. Also, I agree with smurfhousing's point that if there is to be a Catholic mod then it should be one who toes the official Catholic line. Not sure I've much more to say, really, except to reiterate that I think there should be a Catholic mod to give a better balance to the forum.

Gordon

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

I feel that sometimes Catholic opinions and posters aren't listened to

Maybe the particular opinions/posts aren't that interesting.

/treated with as much respect as non-Catholic ones.

Report the posts if this is the case.

A mod doesn't necessarily have to be a champion of the subject matter that they moderate, we've worked on this premise for some time now and not had to change our stance so far afair.

Tom Dunne

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

See, the thing is, Tom, I didn't start this thread with the intention of getting the current mods in trouble, so I'm a bit reluctant to start direct linking loads of posts and going "look what he did there! And there! and there!".

This is not any kind of witch hunt. If there is genuine concern, both myself and I am sure my fellow admins, will make ourselves available to address such concerns.

Likewise, moderators (and admins ) are human and make mistakes. If a problem was pointed out to a moderator I would expect that he/she would take it on board not as criticism of him/her, but as a constructive way to better a forum.

To be honest, somebody such as myself reading a large, dynamic thread such as the Catholic/Protestant one, wouldn't make a lot of sense. I don't have much knowledge of, or interest in, religion and therefore would most likely miss the point you are trying to make. Even the few pages I have read involved many references to the various doctrines of each faith and went completely over my head.

Overheal

didnt we have this thread earlier in the month with the Soccer Forum?

Its not a driving factor in making mods. Sure wouldn't there then need to be Protestant, Presbyterian and Methodist mods?

Nevyn

I think that one of the reasons the christiany forum is catholic lite is due to the fact that most of the most active posters are not catholic. So may people in this country are lapsed or heritcal catholics with very little intrest in discussing religion never mind debating the finer points of catholic dogma and doctrine.
I don't think appointing a catholic mod will help.

I think apointing some one soley based on the fact the are catholic instead of the other merits needed would be daft and setting a bad precedent.

Thank fúck we don't need that type of repesentation in the paganism forum cos that would be really, really silly.

JimiTime

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

See, the thing is, Tom, I didn't start this thread with the intention of getting the current mods in trouble,

Some friendly advice, what you have actually done is the exact opposite of what you are saying you are trying to avoid.

so I'm a bit reluctant to start direct linking loads of posts and going "look what he did there! And there! and there!".

I'm sure PDN and FC would greatly appreciate if you DID link to the relevant posts. I'm sure that they would be the first to apologise if you showed them that they were being immoderate and as you previously claimed, telling catholics to hush up. I'm sure it would also aid them in realising the error of their ways and setting about putting it right.

The way you are going about it is akin to gossip, and then when someone says, 'Can you show me evidence that this is not just gossip', you say, ';I don't want to get them into trouble'. You've already made the accusation, so the 'trouble' has already begun. You have made similar accusations about me, but you do me NO favours by not providing evidence for your accusations. Lets say that you are the only mod in the motors forum, and I say, 'This place is very biased towards people with BMW's and I reckon we need a Mod who has a Volvo.' That is both useless AND it takes away your charachter. Of course, if I can back up my accusation, then you can be shown what you've done and put it right, or the relevant power can intercede and do something about the bias.

So understand the present position. All that there is presently is a baseless claim, and whatever you are tring to do, it brings the Christianity mods into disrepute. As I keep saying, at this point, the honourable thing would be to substantiate your accusations or withdraw them.

Not sure I've much more to say, really, except to reiterate that I think there should be a Catholic mod to give a better balance to the forum.

You should provide evidence that there is an imbalance first, otherwise this is just a slur against the Mods.

ISAW

smurfhousing wrote: »

You misrepresented the Catholic position in at least one instance [ http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66591841&postcount=221 ], and I corrected you.

WRONG! I posted "as far as i know2 and I am on record pleanty of times stating the chruch position on condoms and pointing out that condoms are not the problem but casual sex is the problem and it is YOU who mis interpreted ME in that message.

I never stated that the Catholic church supports condom use to prevent HIV/AIDS. I stated that as far as i know the church had a different policy on limited use in married couples.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article6072522.ece
Asked whether he would suggest condom use to a married faithful catholic couple who came to him for advice where one of them had Aids, he said: "Well obviously that's a very sensitive point and obviously there are different views on that."

Asked what his own view was, he insisted: "No, no, that's not what this public debate is about."

Now the above is from a conservative Bishop with nihil obstat. I didn't misrepresent anything. You do not represent the Catholic position you represent your view on the Catholic position.

It was about Church teaching concerning AIDS and condoms. If you are going to quote the Church teaching, you need to make sure it is actually the Church teaching and not your own interpretation of it, which in at least one case was totally wrong.

No it wasn't! And i am on record many times saying the Church view is that casual sex is the problem and condom use isn't a solution to AIDS and that this is a valid argument. I have supplied non Catholic statistical reports from WHO which show AIDS statistics in relation to intergenerational sex. that is the public debate on condoms. the "use in marriage" issue is different and if you don't believe me all you have to do is accept the what the Primate of England and Wales said on it.

The problem with having a Catholic moderator, if they aren't orthodox, is that they could be looked upon as some kind of mouthpiece for the Magisterium. The last thing we need is a liberal 'Catholic' moderator who distorts and misrepresents Catholic teachings.

I didn't distort or misrepresent anything. i am also oin record as not claiming to be Catholic Protestant Islamic or atheist and in stating that it didn't matter what I personally believe. what matters is evidence supports the stated opinion. While some may ignore them or legislate against them I will argue with a Holocaust denying Nazi and defend their free speech. I will also point out where that have not supported their position.

Again I will state above you are claiming that the "official" Catholic position isn't been upheld and is being distorted. What gives YOU the authority to decide the "official position"? Have you got "ordinary power" ? No! So then feel free to represent whatever you believe is the position but don't claim that making people like you a moderator will suddenly cause a change for the better.

me_right_one

Tom Dunne wrote: »

No, but from my perspective what is funny is how predictable vested interests are. If a certain group of posters/members of a forum do not get their way, the site is biased against them

Its the other way around. When you allow threads insulting Catholics on a scale akin to sectarianism, that is bias. THEN vested interests start looking for a solution.

Tom Dunne wrote: »

This thread has gone to four pages now and despite numerous requests, I have not been provided with direct links to comments that demonstrate any such bias. From that I can only conclude that the allegations of anti-Catholicism are without foundation.

Yes you were, and here's a few more. Reporting posts isn't worth a fluck because absolutely nothing is done about it, and you know it.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66449770&postcount=3
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66450316&postcount=11
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66451096&postcount=16
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62717552&postcount=1
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62780030&postcount=37
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66475467&postcount=209
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66470026&postcount=200


These are just a couple of posts from 2 threads, (there are many more) where posters called Catholics paedophiles, deluded, assholes, cnuts, rapists etc. and were let away with it. Not even a warning. People have been banned for less. Totally unacceptable. These posters couldnt just have a mature discussion. So go Tom Dunne, and put some of your time aside to deal with these posts and posters, as you have said you would, because they have offended me as a Catholic. Dont shirk this. Be sure to report back to this thread with your findings, be they apologies or bans, and show that this site is not anti-Catholic.

vodafoneproblem

I'm afraid I never find your advice to be friendly, Jimi, but rather various shades of aggressive, just like your tone here. The only thing I haven't given examples of on that C/P thread is of your being aggressive and personal to me and that's to be found on pages 2 to 4 of that thread. It's my belief you have a real hate-on for Catholics and it shows,imo. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055947637&page=2

Another point, Tom, I don't think this is like the soccer forum argument because everyone agrees on the rules of soccer but they don't on the rules of Christianity. However, Catholic posters are by far the biggest single Christian grouping there and yet, their opinions are shut down at times. Finally, I think it's telling that people like Jimi and Jakkass (neither are Catholic) are being quite smug in some of their posts these days. Should tell you something...

Nevyn

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

. However, Catholic posters are by far the biggest single Christian grouping there and yet, their opinions are shut down at times.

You have stats to back this up?
Was there are survey ran on the forum which showed posters who are catholic are in the majority?

mdebets

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

Another point, Tom, I don't think this is like the soccer forum argument because everyone agrees on the rules of soccer but they don't on the rules of Christianity. However, Catholic posters are by far the biggest single Christian grouping there and yet, their opinions are shut down at times. Finally, I think it's telling that people like Jimi and Jakkass (neither are Catholic) are being quite smug in some of their posts these days. Should tell you something...

I don't think you understand the roles of a moderator. They are not there to promote a specific opinion (be they Catholic , Protestant , Pentecostal or otherwise), but to make sure that there are no breaches in the charter of the forum (no insults, no soap-boxing, etc) (of which the current moderators do a great job). For this, the denomination of the moderator doesn't matter (similar to the Soccer forum, where it doesn't matter, if one supports Liverpool or ManU). It might even be more destructive for the forum, if an orthodox Roman Catholic (at least one that would have the support of the people requesting it) would be appointed.
The current claims for the forum being anti-catholic is mostly based on other posters questioning Roman Catholic doctrine and not accepting it as truth (a perfect acceptable discussion in the forum). Would a Roman Catholic moderator shut such a discussion down, because he is more bound to uphold Catholic doctrine than the board.ie rules (going by the Roman Catholic posts in the above mentioned threads, he most likely would do so)?

An idea for the current moderators would be, to clearly mark the posts they are writing as moderators, to distinguish them from their posts they are posting as ordinary members of boards.ie, to make it clear what is their personal opinion and what they are doing as moderators. That would make it clear to the thread starter and others what a moderator actually does and what he is doing as ordinary member.

JimiTime

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

I'm afraid I never find your advice to be friendly, Jimi, but rather various shades of aggressive, just like your tone here.

You are free to think whatever you want. However, when you bring that thought to the fore and it is something negative about a person, you really should support it rather than merely gossiping.

The only thing I haven't given examples of on that C/P thread is of your being aggressive and personal to me and that's to be found on pages 2 to 4 of that thread. It's my belief you have a real hate-on for Catholics and it shows,imo. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055947637&page=2

So now I''m catholic hater. What an abhorrant thing to accuse someone of! Once again, without foundation.

JimiTime

me_right_one wrote: »

Its the other way around. When you allow threads insulting Catholics on a scale akin to sectarianism, that is bias. THEN vested interests start looking for a solution.




Yes you were, and here's a few more. Reporting posts isn't worth a fluck because absolutely nothing is done about it, and you know it.


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66449770&postcount=3
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66450316&postcount=11
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66451096&postcount=16
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62717552&postcount=1
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62780030&postcount=37
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66475467&postcount=209
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66470026&postcount=200


These are just a couple of posts from 2 threads, (there are many more) where posters called Catholics paedophiles, deluded, assholes, cnuts, rapists etc. and were let away with it. Not even a warning. People have been banned for less. Totally unacceptable. These posters couldnt just have a mature discussion. So go Tom Dunne, and put some of your time aside to deal with these posts and posters, as you have said you would, because they have offended me as a Catholic. Dont shirk this. Be sure to report back to this thread with your findings, be they apologies or bans, and show that this site is not anti-Catholic.

After hours and Atheism fora is where you got you found these posts. In the context of THIS thread, can you provide similar evidence, that the mods in Christianity forum let people insult the RCC in such a manner?

philologos

smurfhousing wrote: »

Of the Catholics who post here, those with a proven track record for orthodoxy could be considered. Otherwise, I'd forget it.

Orthodoxy being discerned simply by their faithful adherence to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Pope and the Bishops in union with him, and their acceptance of Magisterial Church teachings in full, without a shadow of dissent.

So not only do you want a Roman Catholic moderator, you want a Roman Catholic moderator who shares your views?

If everyone had that privilege then there would need to be a moderator, not only of every denomination, but moderators who shared each users views within those denominations.

Can I ask, what is wrong with how Fanny Cradock, and PDN are doing their job?

Tom Dunne

me_right_one wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66449770&postcount=3
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66450316&postcount=11
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66451096&postcount=16
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62717552&postcount=1
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62780030&postcount=37
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66475467&postcount=209
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66470026&postcount=200


These are just a couple of posts from 2 threads, (there are many more) where posters called Catholics paedophiles, deluded, assholes, cnuts, rapists etc. and were let away with it. Not even a warning. People have been banned for less. Totally unacceptable. These posters couldnt just have a mature discussion. So go Tom Dunne, and put some of your time aside to deal with these posts and posters, as you have said you would, because they have offended me as a Catholic. Dont shirk this.

After Hours is not relevant to this thread. We are discussing the Christianity forum, so I will not be looking at those posts.

And I can't help but smile at the irony of somebody such as yourself, with such a significant number of bans and infractions going on about mature discussion.

me_right_one wrote: »

Be sure to report back to this thread with your findings, be they apologies or bans, and show that this site is not anti-Catholic.

Right so, here is me reporting back.

Boards.ie is pro-hunting
Boards.ie is pro-British
Boards.ie is anti-Chelsea
Boards.ie is pro-Israel
Boards.ie is anti-Muslim

And of course now the site is anti-Catholic.

I'll add it to the list.

So, let me be clear and unequivocal about this.

Boards.ie will not be appointing a Catholic moderator to the Christianity forum on the basis of that person's faith alone.

If there are accusations of bias on the Christianity forum for or against one faith, then let us discuss it in a civil, adult manner and resolve the matter to everyone's satisfaction.

Otherwise we are just going around in circles.

me_right_one

Tom Dunne wrote: »

After Hours is not relevant to this thread.

I said the SITE is anti-Catholic, not the thread. That includes the bigoted cess-pit that is Afterhours.

Tom Dunne wrote: »

We are discussing the Christianity forum, so I will not be looking at those posts.

Typical.

Tom Dunne wrote: »

And I can't help but smile at the irony of somebody such as yourself, with such a significant number of bans and infractions going on about mature discussion.

Thats personal abuse Tom Dunne, personal. You are breaking your own rules. If there's any irony its that the bans I got were for smaller misdemeanours than the personal abuse you have posted about me above. Are you going to ban yourself now?

Tom Dunne wrote: »

If there are accusations of bias on the Christianity forum for or against one faith, then let us discuss it in a civil, adult manner and resolve the matter to everyone's satisfaction.

Otherwise we are just going around in circles.

So, ask for examples of the alleged bias, then declare that you're not going to look into them when they are provided, personally insult a poster while you're at it, and finally state the obvious that this is a game of spirograph due to your refusal to accept that there is an anti-Catholic bias on the site, and ask for examples??????????



Good luck:rolleyes:

Nevyn

me_right_one wrote: »

I said the SITE is anti-Catholic, not the thread. That includes the bigoted cess-pit that is Afterhours.

Nope I would say there is a lot of anti chruch sentiment being expressed on the site and given the histroy between the state and catholic church and the recent scandals it is to be expected.

I could dig up a heap of posts which have a go at pagans and declare
the site to be anti pagan but tbh it's not, the site is a platform and had very clear rules and guidelines and for the post part is neutral.

If you find posts in any forum offensive report them.

me_right_one wrote: »

So, ask for examples of the alleged bias, then declare that you're not going to look into them when they are provided, personally insult a poster while you're at it, and finally state the obvious that this is a game of spirograph due to your refusal to accept that there is an anti-Catholic bias on the site, and ask for examples??????????

This thread is about the Christianity forum, there are plenty of forums were the opinions are utterly opposed on certain topics that doesn't mean the site is on either side of the argument.

If you don't like the fact it's a neutral site where there is a range of opinion
then I suggest you go look for catholic only discussion sites there are a few of them out there.

Tom Dunne

me_right_one wrote: »

I said the SITE is anti-Catholic, not the thread. That includes the bigoted cess-pit that is Afterhours.

Which is not the topic of this thread, and is therefore not relevant.

me_right_one wrote: »

Thats personal abuse Tom Dunne, personal. You are breaking your own rules. If there's any irony its that the bans I got were for smaller misdemeanours than the personal abuse you have posted about me above. Are you going to ban yourself now?

That is far from personal abuse. That's stating facts.

me_right_one wrote: »

So, ask for examples of the alleged bias, then declare that you're not going to look into them when they are provided, personally insult a poster while you're at it, and finally state the obvious that this is a game of spirograph due to your refusal to accept that there is an anti-Catholic bias on the site, and ask for examples??????????

I asked for alleged bias on the Christianity forum, not the site.

philologos

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

However, Catholic posters are by far the biggest single Christian grouping there and yet, their opinions are shut down at times.

On the Christianity forum? I think it's a majority non-Catholic at present, but there are a lot of Catholic posters particularly recently, and I think that's a trend that needs to continue. I would hope that people of any and every denomination and no religion would have the right to speak within certain reasonable limits on the forum.

How are their opinions being shut down? That's what we all want to know. If I have done this, I will personally apologise to the people that I have done this to, and I expect other posters would do the same.

vodafoneproblem wrote: »

Finally, I think it's telling that people like Jimi and Jakkass (neither are Catholic) are being quite smug in some of their posts these days. Should tell you something...

In what respect? - Again, if I've been out of line, I will personally apologise to you. In the heat of a discussion, one can often get a bit lost in it, and I accept that this could have happened. Provide me some posts, and I'll look into it seriously.

Personally, I think PDN and Fanny Cradock have been more than fair, and they are to be applauded for their work.

StealthRolex

The first element of the charter reads:

The purpose of this forum is to discuss Christian belief in general, and specific elements of it, between Christians and non-Christians alike. This forum has the additional purpose of being a point on Boards.ie where Christians may ask other Christians questions about their shared faith. In this regard, Christians should not have to defend their faith from overt or subtle attack.

The Pope on a at least two occasions that I known of has been described as a nazi or former nazi. Overt attack? I and any right minded person would think so.
Moderator action? None.

The papacy has been described as being a puppet of satan by at least one poster who is known to hold that position.
Overt attack? I and any right minded person would think so.
Moderator action? None.

Is there any point in posting links to these occurrences? Not really as the mods were present in the threads where this occurred.

Part of, and it's a big part, of the Catholic faith is that we recognise the pope as Christs Vicar on earth. He represents Christ for us and a mod suggesting covertly by inaction against such swipes, slanders and slurs, that because they do not it is fair game does not cut it.

Regardless of what you think of the man such attacks are overt, and an attack on a Holy Office ordained by Christ.

If the moderators are not prepared to honour their own charter then they should be called to account.

Either the charter implies impartiality or it does not. If it does not the Charter should specifically state that.

If I have mis-understood the first article and am wrong then I will feel free to refer to the head of the church of england as a nazi freemason, God bless her.

PDN

StealthRolex wrote: »

The first element of the charter reads:



The Pope on a at least two occasions that I known of has been described as a nazi or former nazi. Overt attack? I and any right minded person would think so.
Moderator action? None.

The papacy has been described as being a puppet of satan by at least one poster who is known to hold that position.
Overt attack? I and any right minded person would think so.
Moderator action? None.

Is there any point in posting links to these occurrences? Not really as the mods were present in the threads where this occurred.

Part of, and it's a big part, of the Catholic faith is that we recognise the pope as Christs Vicar on earth. He represents Christ for us and a mod suggesting covertly by inaction against such swipes, slanders and slurs, that because they do not it is fair game does not cut it.

Regardless of what you think of the man such attacks are overt, and an attack on a Holy Office ordained by Christ.

If the moderators are not prepared to honour their own charter then they should be called to account.

Either the charter implies impartiality or it does not. If it does not the Charter should specifically state that.

If I have mis-understood the first article and am wrong then I will feel free to refer to the head of the church of england as a nazi freemason, God bless her.

And if these posts offended you did you report them?

StealthRolex

PDN wrote: »

And if these posts offended you did you report them?

If a garda or police officer sees a law being broken do they wait for someone to report it before taking action? The mods were present when these charter breaches occurred.

The cases were responded to by other posters in-line. The Mods provided no backup or comment, as happens in other threads where the posters are reminded of the Charter.

If the mods will not enforce their own rules and are waiting on reports to be made before taking action then there can be no trust in the mods.

Cabaal

me_right_one wrote: »

Well either way, Catholic mod or not, the anti-Catholic bias on this site is rampant and I cant see it changing anytime soon

Boards is a general reflection on Irish society and more importantly the age of about 10-40 years of age, this age group isn't exactly religious and recent uncovering of the churches numerous attempts to cover up its past have only reinforced this.

In short, its society and not boards.ie,

If you don't like Irish society for the way it is then perhaps either move country or go back in time and get the church to change how it handled sex abuse for decades, this in turn will change how society views it now I'd imagine.

Ireland won't be going back to the 1950's anytime soon I'm afraid

Cabaal

StealthRolex wrote: »

If a garda or police officer sees a law being broken do they wait for someone to report it before taking action? The mods were present when these charter breaches occurred.

Mods don't spent every waking moment on boards or the forum they are on, users on a forum play an important part of the forum by helping keep things in check.

If you have a problem with a post you should report it, doesn't matter if the post was made by mod or non-mod.

If your not prepared to report posts then why bother complaining here?

If the mods will not enforce their own rules and are waiting on reports to be made before taking action then there can be no trust in the mods.

So we can't trust mods when users won't play their part?

So if you see a guy break into a house you think the Gardai should know all about it straight away?, sure why would you bother calling 112.

Damn those Gardai for not doing their job!
:rolleyes:

lmaopml

Cabaal wrote: »

Boards is a general reflection on Irish society and more importantly the age of about 10-40 years of age, this age group isn't exactly religious and recent uncovering of the churches numerous attempts to cover up its past have only reinforced this.

In short, its society and not boards.ie,

If you don't like Irish society for the way it is then perhaps either move country or go back in time and get the church to change how it handled sex abuse for decades, this in turn will change how society views it now I'd imagine.

Ireland won't be going back to the 1950's anytime soon I'm afraid

Huh? Way to miss a point - Man, you've got it nailed! Nice irrelevant personal opinon though....go you! What a pile of irrelevant self indulgent nonsense Cabaal...


I don't get the whole idea of how mods operate etc. on boards.ie, or admins etc. I'm sure I'll get the hang of it though..lol...it seems very Moderated though in comparison to other sites......

...the way I see it, if something pisses me off I will just speak my mind and say it.....which I did, and then I reiterate it a few more times, because I just felt the opening of the mega thread and closing of other threads was rash and drawing a bigger line in the sand than was already present on the Forum. I said what I thought, and then went with the flow as regards the decision....

..and after that, there aint a whole lot more you can do, except keep saying if something piddles you off, and report the post or thread. Although, to be honest, I hate the idea of having to resort to that, rather than just being able to say it on the thread itself...

Hate seeing the whole thing end up here, and this way, if it can be avoided..

PDN

StealthRolex wrote: »

If a garda or police officer sees a law being broken do they wait for someone to report it before taking action? The mods were present when these charter breaches occurred.

The cases were responded to by other posters in-line. The Mods provided no backup or comment, as happens in other threads where the posters are reminded of the Charter.

If the mods will not enforce their own rules and are waiting on reports to be made before taking action then there can be no trust in the mods.

This is utter nonsense.

I certainly don't read every post that appears on the forum. Tbh there are several threads (the Creationism and Clerical Child Abuse threads spring to mind) that I might go weeks without visiting unless alerted by a Reported Post (I can only read so much shyte before I get a headache - and you would have to pay me to read everything in those threads).

You seem to be under some severe misapprehension about the roles of forum mods. If a post is offensive then report it - but complaining about stuff in feedback that you haven't bothered reporting is, in my opinion, a bit daft.

lmaopml

PDN, what's the story with appealing a mods decision on a thread, or threads? Without undermining the decision of a Mod, but just having a discussion on it, when discussion is allowed? I know that mods can't exactly turn over every single decision they make, or chaos would happen..Completely understand that, and that's fine, but then there are the 'posters' too....

..but it's shyte that it ends up this way too, it's like running to 'mama'....nobody wins this way!


Would we be better off having a 'sticky' in the forum to discuss what 'may' be a mods decision to create a mega thread, especially if it is going to opposed strongly by posters themselves?

Nevyn

lmaopml wrote: »

PDN, what's the story with appealing a mods decision on a thread, or threads? Without undermining the decision of a Mod, but just having a discussion on it, when discussion is allowed? I know that mods can't exactly turn over every single decision they make, or chaos would happen..Completely understand that, and that's fine, but then there are the 'posters' too....

There is a procedure for that.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055749888

Dispute resolution procedure

1. If you have a problem with a post, thread or a ban from a forum, the first step should be a PM to the moderator in question. If you are not comfortable with PM'ing that particular mod, you can PM the other mods of that forum. You will find the list of the mods at the bottom of the forum in question. If you have been banned from a forum it is still possible to enter it to see who the mods are by logging out of boards.ie first.
2. If you are not happy with the outcome of the above, then next step is to PM the Category Moderators. They are listed alongside the regular mods.
3. Failing that, you can then take it to Help Desk forum where an Admin can become involved and give an opinion on the matter.

Things not to do

1. Argue with a mod on thread - This is just so that the thread doesn't become derailed by something other than the topic of the thread
2. Start a new thread in the forum you are having a problem in
3. Start a thread in Feedback
4. Start a thread in Boards.ie Help Desk until all other avenues for resolution have been exhausted
5. Send abusive PMs (this will earn you a siteban)

lmaopml

Ahh here, why didn't somebody just advise me to PM??

...if it makes a difference I will do that in future..! The drama is mad around here..