Marian Finucane

Oops69

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How about she's just framing the questions in such a way that Ivan will tell his story in the fullest way? Why does there ALWAYS have to be an agenda that makes her look stupid or incompetent?

Although in fairness, he's not short of a word or two, or a willlingness to spill it all

I find him very interesting and entertaining.

. I I agree he tells a good story , you feel you could just wind him up and off he'd go , but regarding Marion, I've no agenda , she just comes across a little bit dopey to me at times , whether it's feigned dopiness or real dopiness , I don't know , I'll have to go on a southside dinner party with her to work out 'the real MARION'

brooke 2

CountyHurler wrote: »

I've never really thought that Ivan ever understood the social impact of having betting shops in your town... He seems to think it's an honourable trade...

I also dont understand why he bought over those two bookies when he says himself that the move was to online..

I honestly don't think that poor Ivan is all that bright.

Wasn't Paddy Power already in existence when Ivan bought those properties?
Looks like IY was too much of a dinosaur to accept how the future was shaping up
for bookies, i.e. online was the way to go.

HeidiHeidi

Oops69 wrote: »

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How about she's just framing the questions in such a way that Ivan will tell his story in the fullest way? Why does there ALWAYS have to be an agenda that makes her look stupid or incompetent?

Although in fairness, he's not short of a word or two, or a willlingness to spill it all

I find him very interesting and entertaining.

. I I agree he tells a good story , you feel you could just wind him up and off he'd go , but regarding Marion, I've no agenda , she just comes across a little bit dopey to me at times , whether it's feigned dopiness or real dopiness , I don't know , I'll have to go on a southside dinner party with her to work out 'the real MARION'

I didn't mean YOU had an agenda

Marian is always being accused of having an agenda - "dumbing it down" or "being thick" in this case (maybe "agenda" is the wrong word, when I put it like that). Maybe she's just framing questions in an open way to invite expansive answers?

brooke 2

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How about she's just framing the questions in such a way that Ivan will tell his story in the fullest way? Why does there ALWAYS have to be an agenda that makes her look stupid or incompetent?

Although in fairness, he's not short of a word or two, or a willlingness to spill it all

I find him very interesting and entertaining.

It was a very lively, honest, entertaining interview. You might be annoyed at
a lot if what Ivan had to say, but no one could fault him on the honesty front!

HeidiHeidi

brooke 2 wrote: »

It was a very lively, honest, entertaining interview. You might be annoyed at
a lot if what Ivan had to say, but no one could fault him on the honesty front!

I always liked him, even when he was in politics - which is some feat on his part :cool:

I wish someone would get the Blackpool hotel on the like to see what on earth they were thinking - talk about a stunt blowing up in their faces!

brooke 2

CountyHurler wrote: »

You were happy enough with the system at the time Ivan... You did nothing about it when you were in there... His anecdote about the >400 jobs that he took to his constituency showed that .... I like Ivan, but it's a bit much asking for the current politicians to "cut out that racket" when he was doing the same things himself..

Interesting in light of the news re Michael Ring's local soccer club receiving
€200,000 for the second year in a row!

Yates is almost brazen in his honesty. Definitely not holding back on the reality
of how 'pork barrel' politics operates.

HeidiHeidi

Did I hear Donna Hartnett on after the break? :mad:

More populist whinging.

honeybear

That song was a terrible time filler.

Dan Jaman

honeybear wrote: »

That song was a terrible time filler.

I had a terrible time listening to it.

CountyHurler

Who changed Brian Dowling's batteries :eek:

HeidiHeidi

The Government is meant to be afraid of the people?

What a very strange sentiment.

Usual rabble rabble rabble here.

These AAA guys are not very good at defending their bad manners / bending the laws / downright illegal activities.

Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger make RBB look downright coherent and reasonable :eek::eek:

Dan Jaman

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

The Government is meant to be afraid of the people?

What a very strange sentiment.

Governments should always be afraid of the people.

CountyHurler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKE7DkXIToY

If this happened to Ruth Coppinger, would she call it democracy... Of course she lives with a permanent cloud over her dour head anyway, so she is probably always expecting a downpour..

RayM

CountyHurler wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKE7DkXIToY

If this happened to Ruth Coppinger, would she call it democracy... Of course she lives with a permanent cloud over her dour head anyway, so she is probably always expecting a downpour..

I still can't believe all the fuss about a water balloon. In 2002, Michael Noonan was hit by a custard pie - which I would argue is worse than a balloon full of water. The media (and Michael Noonan himself) made light of it. It hardly represents the potential collapse of democracy.

delaad

RayM wrote: »

I still can't believe all the fuss about a water balloon. In 2002, Michael Noonan was hit by a custard pie - which I would argue is worse than a balloon full of water. The media (and Michael Noonan himself) made light of it. It hardly represents the potential collapse of democracy.

Just shows you how rattled they are.

padd b1975

RayM wrote: »

I still can't believe all the fuss about a water balloon. In 2002, Michael Noonan was hit by a custard pie - which I would argue is worse than a balloon full of water. The media (and Michael Noonan himself) made light of it. It hardly represents the potential collapse of democracy.

There's a great story in Dancing At The Crossroads by John Waters about a chef who wiped his ballsack with a steak before frying it up for CJH.

K4t

Dan Jaman wrote: »

Governments should always be afraid of the people.

Not for their physical safety. We have elections and everyone has a vote which politicians can be afraid of.

Dan Jaman

K4t wrote: »

Not for their physical safety. We have elections and everyone has a vote which politicians can be afraid of.

That's essentially what I meant - I in no way meant to imply that Government personnel should be cowering under their desks in case of flying pigs' bladders filled with unspeakably foul potions, though the thought has some appeal.

SaveOurLyric

Can someone wake up the sleeper ? The snoring is interfering with the show.

Callan57

SaveOurLyric wrote: »

Can someone wake up the sleeper ? The snoring is interfering with the show.

Someone has a serious problem with the old adenoids :):):):)

CountyHurler

Is one of the guests on a respirator?

tomglsn

Sounds like Darth Vader is there! The fine Gael lady is coming across terribly. She cant stand over anything.

Harry Angstrom

Could Marian and her merry men not get a proper FG heavyweight for this morning's programme? They must have pulled out all the stops to get a FG councillor :rolleyes:

Callan57

Bizarre ... I doubt there are many unemployed people in the country, or parents whose sons & daughters had to emigrate to find work, who would agree creating employment isn't THE most important issue in the country.

I think Joe is panicking that the turnout on Dec 10 might not be what he wants

P. Breathnach

Joe Higgins going ever closer to declaring his "smash the capitalist system" ambition.

Harry Angstrom

They need to tell Ruth Coppinger to pipe down a bit. Her policies are cuckoo.

P. Breathnach

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

They need to tell Ruth Coppinger to pipe down a bit. Her policies are cuckoo.

They are (I believe) her party's policies.

Callan57

Did she say they were "dressed" by the Taoiseach's wife .... what is going on?

On another point there are lots of people employed in the Four Seasons who I am sure are grateful for the lunch business that secures their jobs.

Harry Angstrom

P. Breathnach wrote: »

They are (I believe) her party's policies.

Ruth is on a whole other plane.

Callan57

Isn't the problem that the local authority houses built by the taxpayer were sold off & very cheaply in many cases

Phoebas

Callan57 wrote: »

Did she say they were "dressed" by the Taoiseach's wife .... what is going on?

'Addressed' I presume.

michael999999

Callan57 wrote: »

Isn't the problem that the local authority houses built by the taxpayer were sold off & very cheaply in many cases

And rightly so I believe. Should low earners not be allowed own there home?

Phoebas

michael999999 wrote: »

And rightly so I believe. Should low earners not be allowed own there home?

Should people who can't afford to buy homes be subsidised by the state rest of us so they can own their own home?

No.

Harry Angstrom

Marian probably gone for a fag break.

dvcireland

RayM wrote: »

I still can't believe all the fuss about a water balloon. In 2002, Michael Noonan was hit by a custard pie - which I would argue is worse than a balloon full of water. The media (and Michael Noonan himself) made light of it. It hardly represents the potential collapse of democracy.

Former Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott did not liked been egged:

michael999999

Phoebas wrote: »

Should people who can't afford to buy homes be subsidised by the state rest of us so they can own their own home?

No.

You mean like the Fianna fail developer friends who are still living in there NAMA funded mansions?

Or the state paying Bertie aherns pensions!

And before you ask no i don't live in social housing.

Phoebas

michael999999 wrote: »

You mean like the Fianna fail developer friends who are still living in there NAMA funded mansions?

Or the state paying Bertie aherns pensions!

And before you ask no i don't live in social housing.

There's no social housing on Pluto.

shamrock2004

saying that the difference between sinn fein and the socialists is that sinn fein condemn violent protests is outrageous.

michael999999

Phoebas wrote: »

There's no social housing on Pluto.

Or planet fine gael in your case, with its nice big golden circle around it!

What an appropriate metaphor you used!

Phoebas

shamrock2004 wrote: »

saying that the difference between sinn fein and the socialists is that sinn fein condemn violent protests is outrageous.

No. its true. After decades of supporting the use of violence for political ends, SF are condemning the violence used by a small section of the water protesters.

Callan57

michael999999 wrote: »

And rightly so I believe. Should low earners not be allowed own there home?

I didn't say that ... I was pointing out that the shortage of social housing now is an obvious direct consequence of selling off the stock of social housing cheaply. They should have been sold a market value and the money used to provide replacement stock.

michael999999

Callan57 wrote: »

I didn't say that ... I was pointing out that the shortage of social housing now is an obvious direct consequence of selling off the stock of social housing cheaply. They should have been sold a market value and the money used to provide replacement stock.

But they were sold at market value for the areas they were in!

Surely the whole point of social housing is that the lower paid can afford a house as well. Is it not the councils fault for not selling the houses with a 5 % mark up and re investing the money in more housing.

Instead of building massive new council offices in every small town like they did in my area.

I don't think it was people buying council houses that bankrupt the country, more like the Fianna fail voter that had to have the triple glazed PVC overlooking the patio and BMW.

Callan57

michael999999 wrote: »

But they were sold at market value for the areas they were in!

Surely the whole point of social housing is that the lower paid can afford a house as well. Is it not the councils fault for not selling the houses with a 5 % mark up and re investing the money in more housing.

Instead of building massive new council offices in every small town like they did in my area.

I don't think it was people buying council houses that bankrupt the country, more like the Fianna fail voter that had to have the triple glazed PVC overlooking the patio and BMW.

They were sold at marked down prices to the renter - they were not put on the open market & sold for the highest price.
I totally agree with the vanity projects so many councils engaged in - unnecessary and totally wasteful.
I most certainly am not blaming council tenants for bankrupting the country - that's just plain silly

delaad

Member of the elite interviewing member of the elite about the formation of a new party to take on the elite. You couldn't write the script!

Callan57

delaad wrote: »

Member of the elite interviewing member of the elite about the formation of a new party to take on the elite. You couldn't write the script!

To be led by an ex-stockbroker :rolleyes:

Phoebas

michael999999 wrote: »

But they were sold at market value for the areas they were in!

Surely the whole point of social housing is that the lower paid can afford a house as well. Is it not the councils fault for not selling the houses with a 5 % mark up and re investing the money in more housing.

They were sold at large discounts to the existing tenants.

IvyTheTerrible

Ah, let's talk about the fuss about Trierweiler affair, when people in France can't find jobs and pay is being cut.

Also, if people believe all the crap she wrote in the book they are stupid.

Oh and here we go with the "French men are all macho and all have mistresses".

Callan57

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Ah, let's talk about the fuss about Trierweiler affair, when people in France can't find jobs and pay is being cut.

Also, if people believe all the crap she wrote in the book they are stupid.

Oh and here we go with the "French men are all macho and all have mistresses".

If he's so horrible why was she involved with him ...... OK, stupid question

IvyTheTerrible

Callan57 wrote: »

If he's so horrible why was she involved with him ...... OK, stupid question

He's only horrible when he cheats on someone younger/better looking.

Oh and saying that people in the Ecoles Sup are just lucky. Ok a lot of rich people go there, but my brother in law got in there and you don't just get in by scratching your backside, you have to work really hard.

michael999999

Callan57 wrote: »

They were sold at marked down prices to the renter - they were not put on the open market & sold for the highest price.
I totally agree with the vanity projects so many councils engaged in - unnecessary and totally wasteful.
I most certainly am not blaming council tenants for bankrupting the country - that's just plain silly

So you would have prefered them to have beenbput on the open market, to be sold to the same 'developers' that bought up all the other property's to flip them?

Thus making the property's even more unaffordable to the people that really needed them!